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« on: January 28, 2012, 11:08:41 PM »

Hello! I'm a new member to your form. I feel I have some knowledge that I can add to this forum. I realize that I'm new here and don't want to over extend my welcome here. I have a computer club in a retirement center in Oklahoma where I try my best to help senior citizens . I just recently discovered this excellent forum. I enjoy sharing what I have learned with others. I have posted my thoughts and suggestions on several threads here. There seems to be a lot of knowledge on this forum and I plan to use this information to help members in my club.
I know I'm very windy and very old. My intention is to help and not cause problems for moderators and administrators.
What I'm asking is this( When I get out of my league, please just say "cool it garybear, you don't know what your talking about.")
I will cool it. Please give me a warning before you ban me ,because this is one of the coolest forms that I have ever joined.
I feel I have a little above the normal knowledge of the puter, but I don't know it all by any means
I would appreciate a PM when I'm out of line; I will shape up when told to do so. LOL
I hope this is the right place to post this and that I meet many new friends here.
This looks like a great community and I hope I can become a part of it.
Thanks for taking time to read this. I will appreciate any comments to this post.
garybear!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 11:59:38 PM »

Welcome to the forum. But this is your third post. So I guess you already got the welcome stuff.

Great idea helping seniors. We need all the help we can get.

Present us a problem.
Or maybe here is one or two you have already found.
1. How do you tell a Senior Citizen that computers are not hard.
2. How can a Senior with poor vision use a computer.
3. What about a Senior that has use of only one hand?

Do you need help on any of the above? Or do have some good solutions.  :)

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 05:25:46 AM »

Nobody is going to ban you unless you do something absolutely outrageous, and I simply don't see that happening. If you do step over the line I assure you one of us will let you know before any type of action is taken. Enjoy the forum - I'm sure you'll be a most welcome member of our community.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 09:47:23 AM »

Thanks every one for your warm welcome. I'll try not to do any thing absolutely outrageous. I have discovered that large ego's on some forums have gotten me banned in the past, but I'm learning how to be a little more diplomatic as I get older.
This is a great forum and I hope I can be a little help to some one here at Computer Hope.
Thanks for the great suggestions!!
 1. How do you tell a Senior Citizen that computers are not hard.
2. How can a Senior with poor vision use a computer.
3. What about a Senior that has use of only one hand?
I have a Toshiba lap top and I take my flat screen 36" TV to my computer club and hook a HDMI cable to my PC and TV.
I have been told I can use the big screen in the chapel, but the hook up is to far away from the members and so I wouldn't be able to walk around and help the members.
I just moved here in the retirement center and I just started the club. Will have my second meeting next Friday.
I'm going to do my best to make sure they know computers are not hard to use and nothing to be afraid of!!
Thanks again for your warm welcome!!
garybear
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 10:09:38 AM »

Hi newbie I think you might help me.Please respond.George,
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garybear
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 11:28:37 AM »

Hi newbie I think you might help me.Please respond.George,
Hello George!! Never put your email address in a topic or reply. I have your address and I will email you. Please edit your reply and remove your email address.
garybear!!
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garybear
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 02:45:41 PM »

Hello!! Please remove the email address in the above post! I messed up!! It won't let me. I need a moderator. Thank you!!
garybear!!

PS I waited to long to modify my post. Need help from moderator!!

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 03:09:21 PM »

Thank You!!
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garybear
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 03:41:12 PM »

Hello !! I do have some questions?? I probably should start a new post. From experience I have found that this can be moved by a moderator if that is what needs to be done, so will post here!!
Over the short years(8) of my PC experience, I have come to the following conclusion.(*PS I'm almost 74 years young!)
The only real tools you need to keep your PC fresh is a good anti-virus program along with a good malware program.
I run Microsoft Security Essentials along with Malwarebytes Pro. I use WOT add-on to Firefox, Chrome, and IE9. There are some other good add-ons but not really needed in my opinion.
I only recommend one APP. for seniors and that's CCleaner.I trust the registry cleaner and believe it will do a good enough job for senior citizens.
I have used other registry cleaners that are much harsher, but if your not constantly installing and removing programs, I don't recommend them.Personally when I want to completely remove a program, I personally edit the registry with regedit(Not recommended for seniors) Only if your are experienced user and only if you keep a current back up image of your OS.
I do have a few more favorite Apps. that I personally use, but most seniors aren't interested in them.
I have just recently up dated to W7 and I love it.
If any one has a comment, I would love to hear it!!
garybear PS I'm always ready to learn new things, and try to at least learn one new thing every day.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 03:43:25 PM »

There is no such thing as a good registry cleaner. Registry cleaners CAUSE problems, the do not cure them. The best of them are benign and do not harm the system. The worst of them can leave the system unusable. But NONE of them do anything useful. NONE.

Here, you can read this:
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2005/04/why-i-dont-use-registry-cleaners/

And yes, in the future please start a new thread for every new topic.
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garybear
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 03:58:27 PM »

There is no such thing as a good registry cleaner. Registry cleaners CAUSE problems, the do not cure them. The best of them are benign and do not harm the system. The worst of them can leave the system unusable. But NONE of them do anything useful. NONE.

Here, you can read this:
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2005/04/why-i-dont-use-registry-cleaners/

And yes, in the future please start a new thread for every new topic.
Hello Allan!! I agree 100% about registry cleaners. I do trust CCleaner.
Thank you for your reply. Please feel free to move this and start a new topic if needed!
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 03:59:32 PM »

ccleaner also does nothing that you can't do manually. And the registry cleaner module is still a registry cleaner and SHOULD NOT be used or recommended.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 05:48:57 PM »

Hello Allan. I recommend CCleaner to seniors. I feel it is a very old and well established company. It's been around for years. Very easy to use. I have tested the registry cleaner thoroughly . It makes a back up, and I have deleted and restored it . It restored every item  back. I trust it and I try to make things as simple as I can for seniors. CCleaner has been around long before me. I have used it for years, but just like any program, it could cause you problems
Yes you can clean your PC manually. Personally I think this cleaning thing has been over rated; however I have seen occasions where I think a good clean up helped on some problems.
Do you have any more advise for me ? ;)
I really appreciate your suggestions and your comments.
Thank you friend!
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 06:09:14 PM »

CCleaner ?
If I were to use it, what benefit would I gain?
What does it really fix?
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 06:26:25 PM »

Download it & have a look for yourself Geek, I use it before defragging.

Aside from cleaning out the crap it also has a good uninstall where the windows uninstaller sometimes fails, no reflection on windows more so the original program I think.

Report back your findings.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2012, 06:43:02 PM »

CCleaner ?
If I were to use it, what benefit would I gain?
What does it really fix?
Hello friend!! It fixes nothing. It cleans clutter and temps from your PC ect. As I have clearly stated in other posts. I'm a long way from being a garu. I read a lot of malware fighters posts, just to see if I can learn any thing new. Several of those posts state that malware and other infections choose these kinds of places to hide and do their dirty work. Can I prove that? No sir I can't. I like to keep my PC clutter free as possible and so I'm a big fan of CCleaner and I always recommend it to all my friends, young and old.
Thanks for your comment.
PS I have never been infected that I know of, so I think I will continue doing the same things I have always done, until some one can convince me to do other wise. I only use 29.5 Gigs(Windows7 and a few Apps. that I use nearly every day) on a 600 Gig HD. I keep my PC as clean as I know how. I have back up images of my OS on two different external HD's where I also keep other things I don't wish to lose.
garybear! PS I have started all over with a brand new OS more times than I care to remember. It's not that much fun any more, so I'm very through about keeping a up dated back up image of my OS.
Thanks again for your comment!
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 08:41:04 PM »

I only recommend one APP. for seniors and that's CCleaner
I fully support CCleaner but you're making a mistake by not recommending apps such as an anti-virus program and a spyware/malware removal program.  Senior citizens should also understand the importance of a firewall.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 09:33:31 PM »

I fully support CCleaner but you're making a mistake by not recommending apps such as an anti-virus program and a spyware/malware removal program.  Senior citizens should also understand the importance of a firewall.
Hello friend!! You are sure keeping me busy answering all these reply's. CCleaner is not the only App. I recommend. I always ask what they are using for anti-virus, and I always recommend they keep what ever anti-virus they feel safe with ;excluding Norton. I also recommend Microsoft Security Essentials and MBAM in real time. The new MSE has a good firewall and a wireless router is added protection with a good firewall. I will have my members down load MBAM & SAS to run on demand after my computer club is formed. I will also recommend WOT as a safe way to surf the net.
I thank you for your reply soybean! I have given my senior citizen club a lot of thought, but your comments are always welcome. Thank you sir!!
garybear!
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 10:07:03 PM »

Hello !! This is the best I could come up with on Google search!!
Sorry wrong thread! I got to much going on for an old man.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 12:37:33 AM »

OK, I don't think it matters at all.
But I also believe everybody is entitled to express an opinion.
Rather that yet another  blog post about  how great C cleaner is supposed to be, here is a lucid video from some fast-talking youngster that could get a job as a used card salesman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odM8LVpI9zY
Speed Up Windows 7 - Windows 7 Tutorial (2011)

Watch and listen and judge for yourself.  ::)
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