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shagger1

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Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:04:59 PM »
Howdy
I use Xp home and have 512megs of ram-my question is when I am online the
longer my computer is on the lower the available ram is, lets say I dont use any
other programs but my browser(avant) when I get online my free ram is about
330 megs and after 4 hours of surfing it gets to about 260megs of free ram,is this
just the way windows works? I have no virus or spyware.
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Rod

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 09:51:36 PM »
Programs and the operating system use RAM to store data for fast access while the computer is running. Web browsers, particularly newer versions, are notorious for generally using high amounts of RAM. What's more is that sometimes the RAM that is used is not properly freed when no longer in use (this is called a memory leak.) It is normal for free RAM to decrease when you have programs running, especially when running for a long time. If it bothers you, usually closing, waiting, and re-opening your web browser will free up some RAM for a while.

TL;DR: It's perfectly normal for free RAM to decrease while a program keeps running. Restarting the program or the operating system will free up most of this RAM, at least for a while.

shagger1

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 12:07:17 AM »
Thanks guys for the help
using avant I find if I minimize it I can see the ram increase-I wait then maximize it
and I have much more ram-I dont have a memory leak on yhis avant version.I find
that some days when I start my PC it varies.

I sometimes use a ram optimizer(I know most dont like those) but cleanmem
is the only one that really works and it is freeware,just google it if you are interested,
they have an awesome forum and the devolper is really cool.
Thanks again
Rod

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 11:42:05 PM »
High CPU usage would be more alarming than having a system ram usage. See also swap file.

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 12:57:36 AM »
Thanks Jason
I understand swapfile and my cpu useage is very low unless
I go to youtube-Yikes!

My computer does not slow down or get sluggish as the ram
drops.I am probably worried about nothing,when I start browsing
I have about 325 available ram and after a few hours that drops
to 290 or so of free ram-thats not too bad is it?

Rod

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 01:09:41 AM »
It's not actually. But of course there is a big difference when your system is just reinstalled as this reading may lower. But the next solution after is add an additional RAM stick and you will be more satisfied. I got used to 512 Mb of RAM using XP years ago, but after using Win 7 on 4 Gig and above RAM, you will never want to run on XP with that low memory so I went to look for another stick just to compensate the speed you would get use to.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 01:21:44 AM by jason2074 »

shagger1

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 01:45:27 AM »
Jason
what do you mean by It's not actually" - my pc never drops below that
and like I said it is fast as heck and not sluggish it is XP and it runs fine
just wondering why you think its not OK?I have had it drop to 20megs
using firefox and its still not sluggish!

Rod

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2012, 01:58:35 AM »
Quote
thats not too bad is it?
It's not actually. ;D

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 02:10:31 AM »
Thanks now I feel better! I sometimes use cleamem a memory optimizer
that actually works-my ram was about 300megs free last post and I turned
on cleanmem and right now I have 393 megs free-not too shabby,you should
check out the program,the developer uses it even havin a ton of ram
http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem
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Rod

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2012, 06:24:29 AM »
Creatively disguised Spam...

I was gonna see how long it played itself out.
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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 04:06:32 PM »
Patio
what do you mean -this is not spam,just letting people know of a free program
is that spam? is that what you mean?I dont understand-feel free to delete this
topic if I did something wrong.My questions were legitimate and if I did somethig
wrong I apoligize.

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 04:21:42 PM »
Duly noted.

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 02:55:09 PM »
Microsoft originally designed Windows to operate on computers that were built with WAY TOO LITTLE actuall RAM.  Many companies put way too little ram in their PC's to get them out the door at discount prices, knowing that the Pagefile would pick up the slack, at a significant hit on performance.

When a program can't fully load into the available ram, Windows will shuffle it off to the Pagefile on the hard drive.  That's called "Virtual Memory".  The real problem with that is that the hard drive is the slowest part of your computer.  It's thousands of times slower than the Ram itself.

So the overall solution to the problem is to give your OS enough ram in the first place.  For any version of XP, you should try to get up to 2 gig's of ram.  Then use of the hard drive and the Pagefile will go down and system performance will increase.  I try to do this for all my customers, with OLD PC's, Windows XP and limited amounts of RAM.

Memory optimizers just mask the problem, they don't FIX anything.  Those programs actually use up ram when they are running.
You're better off, to either add more ram to your computer, or minimize the TSR's and Services running in the background on your PC.

I do this stuff for a living and have for many years, so I know it's possible.

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 03:45:38 PM »
Microsoft originally designed Windows to operate on computers that were built with WAY TOO LITTLE actuall RAM.

They didn't. "Way too little" in 2011 was "a lot of RAM" in 2001. Microsoft designed each version of Windows to run with what seemed like the amount of RAM an affordable PC was likely to have at the time of release. There were minimum amounts, and recommended amounts.

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Re: Why does Ram Decrease the Longer I use My PC
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 06:25:28 PM »
Thanks guys
cant afford ram now as I am saving up for a new pc, shadow- the above mentioned ram optimizer really does work so I am fine with it-it is the only one I use and the only one I trust .
Rod