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« on: March 15, 2009, 04:00:23 AM » |
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AIWelcome message - Trigger a message for users asking for help to tell users to ask question. Forum message - Trigger when asking about forum to post URL to forum. Warn / Kick - If user is disobeying forum rules will warn and kick automatically. Dictionary - Users asking what something is, e.g. "What is a CRT?" or "CRT?" will link user to dictionary definition. Stats / Status - Update chat status and statistics to computerhope server. CommandsGoogle searches g = Type "g xxxx", where xxxx is what you want to google search. gch = Type "gch xxxx", where xxxx is what you want to search for on Computer Hope (excluding forums). gcha = Type "gcha xxxx", where xxxx is the search for any page on Computer Hope (including forums). phone = Type "phone xxxx", where xxxx is a name of a company to display company contact information. !report xxxx = Where xxxx is a name of a chat user you wish to report as misbehaving. Only use this command if user is truely misbehaving. !seen xxxx = Where xxxx is a name of a chat user to display when that user was last active in chat. !stats = Display URL to stats. !help = PM !help to hopebot to see full list of quick reply commands. Convert xxC/F = Where xx is a temperature to convert, e.g. converting 40C to F. xxxx = Any natural language conversion should be possible (thanks to what was done with Zero). For example, asking a question like: how many bytes in a gigabyte or how many bytes in 10 gigabytes should be able to display values for. TODOCurrent Task- Add welcome back message for users coming in as different name.
- Make daily/monthly logs available to users online
- Ability to add/remove commands adjust AI dynamically without having to reboot.
- Detect and only respond to channel hopebot is logged into.
TO-DO- Go full week with no errors.
Done- Working on stability issues being randomly encountered with Google searches.
- Re-enable re-log on error after stability issues resolved
- Allow Hopebot to do !op !deop !voice feature
- Add reporting feature, to report abuse in chat
- Update kicking / banning feature for repeat offenders (was needed as many of you expected)
- Removed math feature, wasn't really needed and was buggy
- Spent a lot of time cleaning up code, he's been cobbled together from other projects so code has been hard to work on and update. Hopefully should make things easier now.
- When pulling a definition will now pull title and then show the link. Should help answer many of the questions about a word immediately.
- Users who're looking for help on how to hack someone or something will be given an automatic message indicating how Computerhope and it's volunteers do not help with that type of question.
- Added flood protection.
- Corrected all issues with hopebot not detecting loss of connection and being able to reconnect.
- Corrected all issues with !seen command and not reporting proper time when user was last on. Increased backlog of user list to 500+ plus all users who've logged in and been active since hopebot last joined.
- Moved database of responses to external file.
- Added improved AI for phone support when suggesting users to call a company, should pull company contact information page.
- Improved abuse detection.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 03:37:36 PM » |
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Current Task - Working on stability issues being randomly encountered with Google searches.
I'm wondering, what exactly causes this? I looked into the issue myself, looking at the last few crashes (this was last week, I think), and I noticed one similarity with most of the websites. They all have the quick links listed below in the search results. Eg: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ei=3HS9Se_6HZmMsQPm97E_&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=free+computer+help&spell=1Look at ComputerHope's result, directly underneath it, it lists: Forums Free help Dictionary Ms-dos help and commands Etc... Could that be to do with it? Random memory: First time I came to ComputerHope was when I was looking for a more extensive list of MS-DOS Commands, it had the best page I could find on the internet.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 12:55:04 AM » |
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Update: Re-wrote the Google function and hope that will resolve everything. Couldn't determine the cause so figured I'd just re-write it.  If that fixes things I'll re-enable the feature that will reload the script if it crashes. I also fixed numerous other minor bugs throughout the day.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 09:07:37 PM » |
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Update: Fireballs indicated to me that a user by the name of Tim found that non-alpha characters were crashing Hopebot on Google searches. I've fixed this and hope this continues to improve his stability. At the request of Lostcoast I've also fixed an error with Hopebot not properly warning users on repeated messages. Was a really strange bug. Also tried improving the AI some more on how hopebot will say the welcome / wait for answer to question response. Finally, I've also re-wrote the upload routine so statistics are only parsed and uploaded every hour instead of every login. Was killing my machine since the logs are getting so large and it was sometimes getting parsed multiple times every few minutes. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 03:33:06 PM » |
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Nathan,
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2009, 03:41:07 PM » |
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Hoooopebot, your mother's still a toaster!  Heh.. that's probably true. Added some additional features today. - Added "gcha" for users who want to google search all computer hope pages. - Added convert to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit and visa-versa - Can do match calculations and conversions such as how many bytes in a gigabyte, etc. (from Zero)
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2009, 04:29:54 AM » |
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Hopefully later today, since I still haven't gone to sleep yet (been catching up after I've been out of town); I plan on adding a new feature that will allow users to report any abuse that's happening in the channel. I hope this will help keep order in the chat, while maintaining the new setup with no ops. Below is my rough draft of what I've got running in my head. Feel free to add any comments. You: report <user>
hopebot: <user> <host info> has been reported.
Hopebot will then send a text message to me on my cell phone and give me a popup on my computer allowing me to take care of it ASAP.
<If user gets multiple reports kick/ban user>
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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2009, 01:35:57 PM » |
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Fixed. Believe it was caused because server reset and/or my connection was lost when attempting to log back in there was already a hopebot logged in causing him to use backup name of thopebot.
Also fixed the "spell" issue.
If Hopebot is a registered nickname (which, it should be), add this to its startup script to fix the duplicate username issue: /nickserv ghost USERNAME PASSSWORD For more help, type /nickserv help ghost It kills anyone attempting to use the same nickname, or "Ghost" names which happen when users loose their connections and dont properly disconnect.
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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2009, 03:12:30 PM » |
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Hopebot bans:
It still gives the trolls the upper hand until 3 user's get together and ban them. I'm sure you can log the efforts of Bans by the users in case its abused but that adds to the confusion and work needed to manage this effort. Allowing anyone to group ban any user which will probably include voiced users is a short coming.
Voiced users should have the ability to act with expediency and be promoted to half ops. Thus ending anyone from , kicking other ops or de-oping and still maintaining control of trolls.
Kicks can be used as guest warnings as before. Quite bans may be used for mild guest offenders and lifted by the operator, but either can Not be used against another operator and is normally blocked from doing so with half ops.
All Channel bans then should be registered in a forum post by the banner under a special heading with a reason why and with a log of what happened so it can be reviewed by Nathan saving him time and effort managing. ALL complete channel Bans should ONLY be lifted by Nathan to avoid confusion.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2009, 06:32:10 PM » |
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Some time ago, the proposal to do 'gang bans' was brought up, and I debunked it then. I think that post has been deleted. Hopebot bans:
It still gives the trolls the upper hand until 3 user's get together and ban them.
Correct. I'm sure you can log the efforts of Bans by the users in case its abused but that adds to the confusion and work needed to manage this effort. Allowing anyone to group ban any user which will probably include voiced users is a short coming.
Correct again, twice. Voiced users should have to ability to act with expediency
Regarding expediency - correct. and be promoted to half ops.
You need to explain why half ops vs. ops. (In your previous post about half ops, it was not explained there either) All bans then should be registered in a forum post by the banner under a special heading with a reason why and with a log of what happened so it can be reviewed by Nathan saving him time and effort managing.
How sad, if it must be done this way. Bans should only be lifted by Nathan to avoid confusion.
This is in regards to bans placed by others, right? Not one's own bans. Rarely did I ever want to ban someone permanently or long term. I certainly wouldn't want to be bothering Nathan to take off a ban that I entered. All along, common sense would dictate that one should not remove another's ban - if nothing else without discussing it first. To do so, is to promote chaos, which is exactly what some people were doing. When they were doing such stuff, I could not help but wonder how loud the screaming and whining would be, if someone else had unilaterally just removed one of THEIR bans. It is just stupid to go around, undoing what someone else has done, just because one feels like it. It should be discussed, first. It is a shame that apparently it has to be spelled out, and probably the way you have worded it, is what we are down to - that bans other than one's own, can only be removed by Nathan. just my opinion...
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2009, 11:20:40 AM » |
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Found on first post. Convert xxC/F = Where xx is a temperature to convert, e.g. converting 40C to F. x +/* y = Pretty much any possible math formula should work (thanks to Zero). e.g. 2 + 2. xxxx = Any natural language conversion should be possible (thanks to what was done with Zero). For example, asking a question like: how many bytes in a gigabyte or how many bytes in 10 gigabytes should be able to display values for. Because the math function had issues this is disabled at this time but other should work fine.
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« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2009, 06:50:54 AM » |
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<Carbon> !report Squall_01 *HopeBot* Carbon: I don't see this user in the channel. Do not abuse this command or you'll be banned. Darn it..... He logged off, then I reported him. It doesn't seem as effective if this happens if the user is not online. Not sure how it would work, but I believe the !report <hostmask> will work though. Any chance that could be added? If anyone wants to know what I did that to Squall, PM me.It was a misunderstanding. It has been settled. 
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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2009, 09:46:19 AM » |
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I think there is a little problem in HopeBot. * Abstract (ap_32@3363B7F4.95AA77C6.7FF0425B.IP) has joined #computerhope * Abstract is now known as Abstraction [b] <Abstraction> Hello [/b] * Abstraction (ap_32@3363B7F4.95AA77C6.7FF0425B.IP) has left #computerhope * Abstraction (ap_32@3363B7F4.95AA77C6.7FF0425B.IP) has joined #computerhope [b] <Abstraction> Hello <&HopeBot> *WARNING # 1/3* Abstraction please don't repeat things. [/b] <+jacky> what's that? * Abstraction (ap_32@3363B7F4.95AA77C6.7FF0425B.IP) Quit (Quit: )
The repeating is carried on even after a part and join.
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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2009, 05:48:23 PM » |
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I assume you will look over the !reports, no matter how many the user gets? Yep. Also, will these reports be removed after an XX amount of time? If hopebot gets reset reports will get removed. Other than that it'll remain indefinitely. !report ? <HopeBot> Ashutosh, You can't report yourself. Abuse this feature and you'll be banned. Bug with new feature, has been fixed. He logged off, then I reported him. There should be no reason to report users that are offline, so hopebot should have no need to do this. The repeating is carried on even after a part and join. Thanks, this has been fixed. Also made it so greetings such as "hello" will not apply to repeats because if someone says hello and then another user logs in and you say hello again would give warning. I also went through the logs for the last few days and cleared up other minor issues.
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2009, 06:36:06 PM » |
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<SneezleTheWeasle>  <HopeBot> *WARNING # 4/3* SneezleTheWeasle To help keep users online statistics clean please keep your name under 14 characters. To change your name type /nick <new name> =-= Mode #computerhope +b *!*@mib-D1FEC736.mtveurope.org by ChanServ =-= SneezleTheWeasle was booted from #computerhope by ChanServ (Banned. (HopeBot)) This was a bit frightening... No new user would really know how to change their nickname... can Hopebot just cut off nicknames and replace them in the nickname list with something like SneezleThe~ ?
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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2009, 08:48:25 AM » |
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Either ban for XX minutes, or kick.
With all Hopebot's bugs, a ban is much too harsh.
I was talking to Jacky the other day about the issue. He said that OZs banned users for a set amount of time,
That time is adjustable, should it be determined that it needed to be longer or shorter, to get the desired results. enough time for a human to come along and review the ban list to see if any of them should be permanent or not.
We chose 24 hours as a starting point. It seemed to be working, but was always open for discussion/suggestion. We had none. Bots who cannot think for themselves should not ban a user forever. That should be up to the human controller.
That IS my opinion, and I came to it when learning the things that could be done with Oz's software. With the ability for the bot to set an "expire" time on its own bans, then if nothing else it would be a fail-safe.
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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2009, 11:34:32 PM » |
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-->| mib_b3cthu (Mibbit@mib-C0E5B57F.ill-bgl.static.vsnl.net.in) has joined #computerhope <mib_b3cthu> hey is this #computerhoe? <mib_b3cthu> or am i mistaken? |<-- guest_27 has left irc.mibbit.com (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) <Zylstra555> Carbon: are you there? <Zylstra555> !report mib_b3cthu *HopeBot* Zylstra555: I don't see this user in the channel. Do not abuse this command or you'll be banned. Odd... it doesnt recognize the user. I'll just do the old 'Mess With 'Em". EDIT: I got them successfully autobanned. Its funny, how making people think something is somewhat acceptable without consequences will cause them to just hurl themselves into a wall of -- well, a wall of their own problems, really.
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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2009, 05:09:56 AM » |
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If I dont reply, you get away with making me look bad No, one doesn't necessarily follow the other...it's not an automatic thing. #computerhoe LOL = is this computer/garden tool? Really?
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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2009, 12:47:48 PM » |
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This was a bit frightening... No new user would really know how to change their nickname... can Hopebot just cut off nicknames and replace them in the nickname list with something like SneezleThe~ ? This is a much better solution Zylstra. I'll do this instead. Yesterday, I clicked on the Chat button which automatically logged me in as carbondudeoxide. Randomly, Hopebot gave me a 4/3 and banned me. Believe this was caused by long name, this should no longer be an issue, will be using Zylstra's suggestion. I used my friend's wireless to allow me to get back on the chat. A few hours later, a troll came aboard and I typed !report guest_28 twice. Hopebot gave me a random 4/3 and banned me again. Doing a !report twice is not allowed and will generate a warning. So that wasn't random. You also did it twice in a row, so that also generated a repeat warning. I've added the !report into the elsif section so that wont happen again, however there should be no need to do !report two times in a row. Am I right in saying that Hopebot kicks the first time, then bans? Or is it immediate ban? Yes after three warnings hopebot will kick and then if user logs back in and gets another warning will be immediate ban. So in total the user will be warned four times. Either ban for XX minutes, or kick.
With all Hopebot's bugs, a ban is much too harsh. ... Bots who cannot think for themselves should not ban a user forever. That should be up to the human controller.
Recently all bans have been legit and not due to bugs. The only recent ban bug I can recall are the bans being caused by long names that will no longer happen. I'm also removing bans I think were either too harsh or not legit. <Zylstra555> !report mib_b3cthu *HopeBot* Zylstra555: I don't see this user in the channel. Do not abuse this command or you'll be banned. Hmm. Interesting, assuming this is something to do with his nick. I'll look into the issue and see if it can be corrected. Thanks. Jacky vs. Zylstra debate/drama Finally, I'll at least make a brief comment on this. Let's just drop it, the past is the past and I don't see it going back to how things were. Lets move on. Admin edit: Removed augmentative posts and sending PM.
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« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2009, 01:00:33 PM » |
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Quote This was a bit frightening... No new user would really know how to change their nickname... can Hopebot just cut off nicknames and replace them in the nickname list with something like SneezleThe~ ?
This is a much better solution Zylstra. I'll do this instead.
How can you change someone's nick?
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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2009, 04:41:36 AM » |
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Hopebot 2.4c I've spent the last few hours updating Hopebot with the below fixes, enjoy. - On repeat warnings will now only warn if the repeats happen in the same minute and not if separated by a few minutes. - Fixed a few errors with !report. - Made hopebot be able to detect things like (extra period at the end causing it not to be a repeat): 01:07:43 <guest_31>: how do i mute it it is very annoying. 01:07:48 <guest_31>: how do i mute it it is very annoying.. 01:07:53 <guest_31>: how do i mute it it is very annoying... 01:07:58 <guest_31>: how do i mute it it is very annoying.... - Added additional detection on swearwords for users trying to get around the warnings by putting spaces between each of the characters, multiple characters, etc. - Fixed google bug which was causing him to sleep 10seconds on each Google search (oops). - Modified how he returns g / gch results. - Detection and ignore on users trying to trigger warning with hhooooooooooooopppebot (makes my life easier when reviewing the logs). - Various other bugs that I'm too tired to mention. Been programming the Process tool all day and being that it's 4am kind of tired.  Night.
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« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2009, 03:14:17 AM » |
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Been spending some time fixing Hopebot recently. Didn't get to any of the pressing requests yet but plan to soon. - Spent a lot of time cleaning up code, he's been cobbled together from other projects so code has been hard to work on and update. Hopefully should make things easier now. - When pulling a definition will now pull title and then show the link. Should help answer many of the questions about a word immediately as shown below. [02:48] <dragonwyck> we? [02:48] <&HopeBot> Whatever - WE: http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/w/we.htm[02:48] <dragonwyck> ah..didnt knw that Before this would of just said: we: http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/w/we.htm- Users who're looking for help on how to hack someone or something will be given an automatic message indicating how Computerhope and it's volunteers do not help with that type of question.
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And I'm a sideways, bottle-licking SD-card carrying member of the "people who take both advil and tylenol simultaneously under the false impression that the ingredients of each when mixed together form a potent drug cocktail that makes methamphetamines look tame" club, and My mother was a Craftsman blender, my father, a Coffee machine. Mr.Coffee. Then one day my mother left us, saying she needed to get her blade sharpened, and we haven't seen her since. Although I have posters of panoramas from social gatherings and we play a game of "where's the Craftsman Blender" with them. We've found Radio Shack blenders, Black And decker blenders, and even a esoteric Disney model, but no Craftsman blender.
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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2009, 11:16:38 AM » |
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Omg the computerhope bot is back? Is this the same bot that we were teaching to respond automatically in the chat? Lol I remember when I set a bot back in the days in the IRC chat room, but that was a long time ago.. I used WinBot and it did a pretty good job for the most part, it censored bad words and protected the IRC with antiflood, which means more then 10 lines a sec = auto kick.. I could never get the ban and block to work. I was also trying to setup my bot to kick people who advertise but that was ages ago ( late 90's) *Sigh* The good ol times. I remember when there was 2 or 3 ops in the chat and it would be like 1am when all the people you would have 5 or 6 people and there would be a line.. Man I miss staying up to 2 in the morning answering people's questions. If it is the same bot I am thinking about then I might drop by to say hi, unless he is just a plain sentential bot that just monitors for offensive/spam language? Oh and hello to everyone since I am posting here  I normally don't use the forums if anyone remembers me, I use to work in the chat room a very long time ago then real life happen. Might stop by again when I have time to see if anyone I know is still working there
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« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2009, 06:31:35 PM » |
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Nathan, can I have a raise on my allowance?
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« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2009, 03:50:29 PM » |
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How do you know where I live? I don't use chrome.
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« Reply #73 on: Today at 02:35:44 AM » |
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Sorry again Quantos, tried to take the easy way out and apparently still didn't work from what I saw in the log tonight. [2009-11-21 08:21:01] <Quantos> http://www.intel.com/consumer/learn/desktop/corei7-detail.htm[2009-11-21 08:21:01] -HopeBot- *WARNING # 1/3* Quantos Don't spam the same URL please. [2009-11-21 08:21:19] <Quantos> Oh goodie, here we go again  I've made the time based warnings on the URL host dependent so *hopefully* now shouldn't get this again.
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