DOS based windows

I just found out that Windows 98 has to be installed in DOS but Windows 98 SE can be installed without booting from DOS.  Am I right to assume that that would make Windows 98 the last DOS based Windows?

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No. Windows 98SE was DOS based.

So was ME

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Right. XP was the first MS OS not built on a DOS kernel.

Right. XP was the first MS OS not built on a DOS kernel.

No; that was NT 3.1

I don't think that's what Amats meant. Technical xp, vista, and win7 are all based on dos. I think he meant something like weather or not 98 was the last windows that relied on dos for so much that it had to be installed with it.

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I don't think that's what Amats meant. Technical xp, vista, and win7 are all based on dos. I think he meant something like weather or not 98 was the last windows that relied on dos for so much that it had to be installed with it.

What? Neither XP, Vista, nor 7 are "based on dos". They are all built on an NT kernel.

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EDIT - Double post.

Why did you quot yourself?

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Inadvertent double post. I'm going to delete the quote in the second post - sorry for the confusion.

What? Neither XP, Vista, nor 7 are "based on dos". They are all built on an NT kernel.

Neither...nor only applies to 2 things. You forgot Windows 2000? You ignored my remark about NT 3.1 being the "first MS operating system not based on DOS".

For reference

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Version Marketing name
NT 3.1 Windows NT 3.1
NT 3.5 Windows NT 3.5
NT 3.51 Windows NT 3.51
NT 4.0 Windows NT 4.0
NT 5.0 Windows 2000
NT 5.1 Windows XP
NT 5.2 Windows Server 2003
NT 5.2 Windows Home Server
NT 6.0 Windows Vista
NT 6.1 Windows 7


Basically I was just wondering, at what point did Windows require special installation procedures to install DOS games?  I have several fairly new computers which either they are a pain to install and don't always reliably play or my newest one they won't install at all.  Im looking around for a 486 computer to put on an old DOS version of windows because they played well on it.

Dos is at the core of all windows. Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os. If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.

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Dos is at the core of all windows. Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os. If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.

You are mistaken. As I said above - XP, Vista, and Windows 7 do not even contain dos, let alone being built on it.

Dos is at the core of all windows.

Not true. See above  

Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os.

This is nonsense.

If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in

It is not built in.

and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.

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