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Hi all ..

What is the language that was designed by the command prompt , ms-dos?



 Is it possible to design an anti-virus program by programming through the  " Dos Edit " ?

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Thanks

Alex

Yes but to much hassle:
Such as installing component for the programming language
Connecting to database
Installing controls
And others stuff that i wouldn't know!

Thanks

 but i need more  .

I programming new program for anti-virus

and i need more information about dos

it's good lang to kill viruses in my opinion .

Good luck

You CAN NOT make an av program with batch. Simple as that.

Quote from Zylstra:

Face it, DOS cant do what you want it to.

For more information on what dos CAN'T do, please go here.

Umm, I think another factor is that DOS is not a language... 

DOS is actually quite good for hacking windows system. (BTW that one thing where it says access denied, well that's stupid, because if you can right click you'll understand). I can change any of the accounts passwords. Well, that's not really hacking, that's just type a few commands. I can also see the I.P. Addresses of the other people connected to my modem (example: brothers). Meaning, if I can get on there account I can probably find out there password, meaning I have access to their computer. You know, DOS does have a few tricks up it's sleeve once in a while. I told them they shouldn't make accounts on my computer  .

DOS is actually quite good for hacking windows system.

No. It isn't. It's useless for that.

(BTW that one thing where it says access denied, well that's stupid, because if you can right click you'll understand).

Not even sure what your talking about.

I can change any of the accounts passwords.

No. you cannot. Not without the current password.

I can also see the I.P. Addresses of the other people connected to my modem (example: brothers).

you can see this in a router/modem config page too. nothing special about it.

Oh, except you can see the same thing in Network Neighborhood/network, by right-clicking on the computer. It gives you the IP address. There is nothing "hidden" or "secret" about them.

Meaning, if I can get on there account I can probably find out there password,

How? You cannot get the current users password through any "DOS" command (I put DOS in quotes because I doubt you've actually used a computer that was actually running DOS because if you had you would realize how useless it is and how it is merely a method of performing tasks using commands, rather then using the windows GUI. Nearly everything you can do in the Command Prompt you can do with the windows GUI; and those thigns you cannot do in the GUI are nowhere near cracking the password. (warranted, I'm sure there are third party applications that crack the LM hash or something, but just because the programmer is too inept to make a proper GUI application (which is good, because like most "haxxors" they'd probably embed some terribly awful music into it) has nothing to do with Command Prompt, and even less to do with DOS. There are applications that do the same thing within the windows GUI, does this make the GUI good for hacking? No. it's a GUI, a vessel to run programs.


I tried to search for it, but there was already a long rant (not by me) about this subject. The fact that wannabe's hear about the "power of the command prompt" and don't hear the rest of it means they have to paint the picture for themselves. to they invent all sorts of fantastic tales about how they haxxored their principals "box" using find /i, or something equally fallacious. the problem is their friends, being wannabe haxxors as well, adopt the principal of "make it up as you go along" so pretty soon the school is a murmur with the ramblings of 3l33t haxxors telling their stories of how they trained the class gerbil to run through a maze, eat some cheese, and then school n00bs in a game of doom before it haxxored the bunny's box, took a nap and then haxxored ebay and paypal and got some oreo's delivered to it's house and subsequently died of a heart attack.

The above is unfortunately no less ridiculous then the various "stories" I heard while in school by what were supposedly my peers:

"I totally schooled him with a DOS command"

"I hacked his box when I was at his house, I totally unplugged it, he was so pwned"

Yes. It's true. And this is only the tip of the iceberg; adding to this issue is the fact that teachers and other school staff are paranoid about what the students are doing online. A Prime example being when I was working with QuickBASIC on several occasions. The librarian insisted that I couldn't use QuickBASIC because any program that uses a DOS window is bad.

I didn't realize it at the time, but this attitude is universally ubiquitous with almost any staff member, aside from those who actually know that a mouse port is not a cute little van built for rodents. This only makes things worse, as otherwise smart students are led to believe the same paranoid, delusional crap that the uneducated teachers do. Quite a sad state of affairs.

This is not to mention the complete pervasion of games like "world of warcraft" a world where computer nerds can try to recluse, and at least pretend they have 500 pounds of pure muscle and can crush a lemurs skull with one hand , when in fact they have trouble crushing a grape with both hands. the problem is said "nerds" (who are actually a lesser sub-species called the "wanna-be" nerd, who only thinks that they are a nerd. They, without realizing it, try to learn as much as possible about computers in order to appear "cool" to their nerd friends, of whom a majority are also wanna-be nerds who are doing the exact same thing. this is in fact where these conversations sprout up from, as the wanna-be's mix terms without abandon.

"Yeah, I so totally SQL'd him so bad, he was such a WYSIWYG"

"Oh, I know who you mean, I bet  I schooled him with PERL* the other day"

*Perl

haxxored ebay and paypal

Hi, BC. Nice to see someone on CH who is not a complete p***k. It sure has gone downhill lately.

doctor hack
I understand your question to be simply you want to do an Anti-Virus program that can start and report at the command prompt. Yes, there are some advantages to that. (Ask me if you want me to expand on that point.)

But first, let me say that if you do not already have two years of experience in any kind of computer programming, it will be a hard job. But it is not beyond the ability of someone who is very strongly motivated.

You will need to learn the C language, which can run from the command line. You will later make a library of functions that give you low-level access to all the files in the system. And you must have a database of Virus signatures. You may be able to borrow a database from the Open Source Community.

The above, I think, is the best short general answer to your question.

doctor hack
I understand your question to be simply you want to do an Anti-Virus program that can start and report at the command prompt. Yes, there are some advantages to that. (Ask me if you want me to expand on that point.)

But first, let me say that if you do not already have two years of experience in any kind of computer programming, it will be a hard job. But it is not beyond the ability of someone who is very strongly motivated.

You will need to learn the C language, which can run from the command line. You will later make a library of functions that give you low-level access to all the files in the system. And you must have a database of Virus signatures. You may be able to borrow a database from the Open Source Community.

The above, I think, is the best short general answer to your question

Thanks for ur advice ,

I have another question

How can run DOS environment under any operating system

thanx

There are two problems with your idea. DOS is an operating system. Therefor there is no DOS, other than in an old computer RUNNING DOS. The second problem is that what you think is DOS, is actually CMD.EXE, a command-line interpreter. It is in WINDOWS OS computers, so if you had a batch file, and you made it in XP, it will work in VISTA (if it works in the first place). Macs don't have CMD.EXE, so they can't run batch files.

And cmd.exe is NOT "DOS".

How can run DOS environment under any operating system

you can't just run DOS within an already installed operating system. What you can do is run it via a virtual machine. eg vmware.