Ravings of a mad man.

i know and i see help being given to people , we both do it as well , 1 million times a day is great and it do'es a lot but thats likely only .01% thats missing from my total

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Again i disagree...

Two-eyes, unfortunately that is a far more common occurence these days than we need.  There is too much disparity between the rich and the poor.  Yet again though this is caused by our own greed, perhaps not personal greed.  I'm referring more to greed that is fed by our way of life.

This brings up the nasty habit that corporations have of taking advantage of ALL PEOPLE, not just the poor in the regions that have a resource that the corporations wish to exploit.  Everyday our governments pass laws that make it easier for corporations to exploit individuals and groups of individuals, these laws also make it harder to hold these corporations to accountable for what they do and how they do it.

I personally find myself supporting these corporations with daily purchases, and my investments are getting hard to justify as well.  It's to the point where I could spend literally all of my time researching them and dealing only with responsible and accountable companies, but this is counter productive.  Unfortunately there is no one magical answer, but we do have to work harder to find one.

Whether we harass our elected officials to change legislation, or give up portions of our time and energy, or even just donate materials and money there is only one thing to remember.  If we despair and stop acting then we are no longer the solution, but the problem.

In the end, a lot of us don't do anything because either:
A. We're lazy
B. We don't want anything bad happening to us. ANYTHING

What we "define" by anything even includes really stupid things like not buying a new car every year and selling the old one at a fraction of the price.

Quantos, what you have done is noble and generous.  But there are still 9 million people left in Somalia living in poverty and in fear for their life's.

The mess is Somalia isn't the fault of greed corporations, but greedy war lords and an inept government.

Most people are good and decent people like you.  It's the very few that make it bad for others.

In the end, a lot of us don't do anything because either:

B. We don't want anything bad happening to us. ANYTHING

Can you explain this one?

What people don't realize is if all the worlds wealth was spread equally we'd all be living in poverty.

the only reason people in the more developed countries donate to these lesser countries is to make themselves feel better about having the luxuries they do. Although most don't give as much as Quantos did.

I think a bigger question is; how much if this actually GETS to the people in africa?


Lastly; what about the homeless people in our OWN country? Why pass that off as laziness and yet consider people you've never met, whose sole reason for over-population and disease is simply too much breeding as hard-working decent people? Surely, they are in reality sex maniacs who will screw anything and that's how so many of them- and their children - get HIV. How about instead of sending them money directly to these people; maybe analyze the very reasons they aren't getting the proper education that would  help them understand how to better themselves?

Case and point- the Somalian Warlords. This forms a government- a corrupt one. It's fully possible that the countries people could be making decent amounts based on the value of the products they process, but that these warlords are taking the excess for themselves (actually, not possible, definitely the case). therefore- the only conclusion would be to create a more stable, and less hostile government.

To make things even more interesting, the very concept of giving to Africa actually goes against democracy, since, the basic tenet is that people can do what they wish and reap the benefits of said choices; this is how we ignore the homeless people in our very own cities; "they had freedom of choice and chose drugs, or booze, or whatever"- but, is it not also true that the people in africa choose to breed like rabbits? "They are uneducated"... so, too, can our own homeless be, and although our countries provide free public education it's also true that not everybody is either above the poverty line in our own country nor grew up in circumstances that encourage learning. We are making assumptions based on the persons country of origin, and assuming that our democratic countries provide everything for everybody.

Can you explain this one?

We don't want anything bad to happen to us, unless there is significant reason out-weighing it. Like gambling, the more you risk, the more you CAN win. Some people just have more self-control.


Pre-Post EDIT: the more I read this the less it makes sense. Read it once. 

Although most don't give as much as Quantos did.

This isn't about what I did.  This was money I wasn't expecting.

I think a bigger question is; how much if this actually GETS to the people in africa?

Very little of it actually, most of it is sucked up by administration fees, or stolen by warlords looking to feed their own militia.


Lastly; what about the homeless people in our OWN country? Why pass that off as laziness and yet consider people you've never met, whose sole reason for over-population and disease is simply too much breeding as hard-working decent people? Surely, they are in reality sex maniacs who will screw anything and that's how so many of them- and their children - get HIV. How about instead of sending them money directly to these people; maybe analyze the very reasons they aren't getting the proper education that would  help them understand how to better themselves?

Case and point- the Somalian Warlords. This forms a government- a corrupt one. It's fully possible that the countries people could be making decent amounts based on the value of the products they process, but that these warlords are taking the excess for themselves (actually, not possible, definitely the case). therefore- the only conclusion would be to create a more stable, and less hostile government.

To make things even more interesting, the very concept of giving to Africa actually goes against democracy, since, the basic tenet is that people can do what they wish and reap the benefits of said choices; this is how we ignore the homeless people in our very own cities; "they had freedom of choice and chose drugs, or booze, or whatever"- but, is it not also true that the people in africa choose to breed like rabbits? "They are uneducated"... so, too, can our own homeless be, and although our countries provide free public education it's also true that not everybody is either above the poverty line in our own country nor grew up in circumstances that encourage learning. We are making assumptions based on the persons country of origin, and assuming that our democratic countries provide everything for everybody.


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I also do things at home, and would encourage others down that road as well.  The whole point is that it doesn't matter where someone is that we help, it just matters that we help them.  If not for a chance birth we could all be crack babies.

It doesn't matter if someone donates 10% of their wage, or if they donate 2 days a month visiting the elderly, or making up food bank packages.  What I am trying to say is that wherever there is need we need to help fill that need, with whatever we can afford.  If the shoe was on our foot, wouldn't you want someone to help you change your circumstances?

Very well said and thought out BC, I always enjoy your posts.

I hope you're not helping bring terrorists closer to America.  Have you researched who these people are?  I know thei people who run that country are thugs and the human suffering there is certainly a tragedy... and I'm my brother's keeper.  But why don't you help a homeless veteran or do community service for the disabled?  Make our country, your community the place to start.  Not Africa

I hope you're not helping bring terrorists closer to America.  Have you researched who these people are?  I know thei people who run that country are thugs and the human suffering there is certainly a tragedy... and I'm my brother's keeper.  But why don't you help a homeless veteran or do community service for the disabled?  Make our country, your community the place to start.  Not Africa

You're sounding rather judgemental for someone who nothing about me or my attention to detail.  What makes you think that I DON'T do anything in my own community?  Maybe I should detail it for you, but, I'm just not going to justify you.  You apparently put quite a hefty amount of thought into your post, so I'll just say read my sig.

By the way, welcome to Computer Hope.

Also; caring ONLY about ones own country is pretty much the precursor to nationalism. And we all know what that usually leads to.

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I hope you're not helping bring terrorists closer to America.  Have you researched who these people are?  I know thei people who run that country are thugs and the human suffering there is certainly a tragedy... and I'm my brother's keeper.  But why don't you help a homeless veteran or do community service for the disabled?  Make our country, your community the place to start.  Not Africa

You should go help someone....i don't give a carp what Country this takes place in for right now...

Then tell others what they suould or shouldn't be doing.

All of man's achievements and inventions and anything we have done to further ourselves is for nothing...
this is because we will all die in the end. kinda depressing but certainly true .

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I disagree...
All Man's achievements and inventions last long after that Man has passed...