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Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« on: November 02, 2016, 11:16:38 PM »
BBC reports hospitals in Lincolnshire 'for five days'.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-37833853
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Hundreds of people are affected by the attack on Northern Lincolnshire and Goole (NLAG) NHS Foundation Trust and United Lincolnshire Hospitals Trust.
About 20 operations have been cancelled at Lincoln County and 15 at Pilgrim Hospital in Boston.
NLAG said contingency plans were in place to maintain emergency service

A report by ZNET paints a grim picture of the problem.
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As a result of the attack, all outpatient appointments and diagnostic procedures that were set to take place at the infected hospitals on Monday and Tuesday have been cancelled, while medical emergencies involving major trauma and women in high-risk labour are being diverted to neighbouring hospitals.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/computer-virus-attack-forces-hospitals-to-cancel-operations-shut-down-systems/

Another place says three hospitals were affected.


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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 08:29:15 AM »
Can't understand how this could happen with all those antibiotics lying around...
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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 05:28:21 PM »
Can't understand how this could happen with all those antibiotics lying around...
Patio, the UK media are having a great time with this story. Some rags are sayhing that has to be retribution for such a despicable thing.  ::)
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37821867
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"If we do not have the ability to respond in cyberspace to an attack which takes down our power network - leaving us in darkness or hits our air traffic control system grounding our planes - we would be left with the impossible choice of turning the other cheek, ignoring the devastating consequences, or resorting to a military response," Mr Hammond said as he described the National Cyber Security Strategy in London

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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 05:43:57 PM »
I don't believe the claim at face value that this was an "Attack". I'd be more likely to believe that it was lax IT Security policies paired with average user capability managing to get the systems infected with Trojans. Of course placing the blame on "evil foreign hackers" helps deflect responsibility.
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 06:02:43 PM »
BC_Programmer,
You make a good point. either way, it is bad news. If a hospital computer system can be taken down because of user and IT carelessness, then it's another reason to stay away from hospital.
On the other hand, if it really was an attack from outside the country, that too would be very disturbing.
Too often many people who should be professionals seem to think they are not at risk for any kind of cyber attack. The fact of the matter is that the personal computers we now use were never intended to be resistant to hostile attacks. Nowadays it takes quite a bit of effort and caution to put take a desk top computer from all sorts of exploits that are circulating around on the Internet.
If institutions such as hospitals and banks and other organizations that have a responsibility to protect the public, do not take cyber security more seriously we're all in for a hard time.  :(

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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 06:09:06 PM »
I think BC is spot on in this one...
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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 06:49:55 PM »
If a hospital computer system can be taken down because of user and IT carelessness
But this has pretty much always been the case. and not just carelessness, but ignorance of the risks, or not even being aware of all aspects of the entire hospital.

For example a hospital could put in place very secure policies- strong WPA2 security on all wireless access points, authorized devices only connecting to open ethernet jacks, security audits about how necessary it is to connect a device to the network- for example that tablet they want to use to play games in the breakroom isn't going to be given access.

Even with the most careful policies, it's easy to miss things and have them snowball from there. Even with all the above policies in place.

For example during the switch over, they sweep the building to remove all open access points, they get rid of them, and it's deemed safe.

But it's easy to miss things. For example maybe, 15 years ago they tried to setup wireless networking the first time with a wireless G router but found it unreliable and gave up. But it never got disconnected; Furthermore, the problems during the initial install were because it was connected to a plug that due to odd wiring was hooked up to the same circuit as the breakroom light switch- a light which was off when they did the sweep, so they never saw that open network access point, but every day when the light is on, the router powers up and provides free access to the hospital network. Then one day your typical user- maybe with malware on their laptop or tablet that doesn't even know about it, connects to that network when they see it in the breakroom. They've just unknowingly circumvented all of the careful policies that were put in place by IT, by connecting to a open network that they figured was IT finally capitulating to their request to use the internet on their break without having to use their mobile data. And if the malware on that system is designed to spread across the network, it does so. It get's onto the system running the CAT scan system for example, but because of their policy they have an AV program which finds the malware and sends an alert to the IT administration.

But maybe a year previous when they installed that CAT system they found that t he device drivers kept being flagged by the AV software, so they've been receiving notifications from that system every day for the last year and started ignoring them, and today is no different, only that it isn't the device driver that set it off.

Or maybe the CAT machine is using AV software that doesn't see the malware at all, but the way the malware works prevents the CAT machine from being used reliably, or maybe the machine doesn't even boot anymore.

meanwhile, the malware infects other system across the hospital and it is only with the sudden influx of issues that IT even suspects something is amiss. By the time they are even able to confirm that it is in fact a malware infection it's already infected most of the systems, many of which are no longer usable.

All started because of a Router that was setup and forgotten in a utility closet 15 years ago on a switching circuit, paired with other factors that simply couldn't be reliably expected in advance.
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: Computer Virus hits hospitasl in UK
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2016, 09:17:41 AM »
Many ways of getting in. Not gonna say the business name, but a business had a HVAC computer that had a dialup modem as well as it was connected to network. Its dialup modem was somehow targeted as the means of breaking in. PC Anywhere was installed on this older HVAC control computer so that it could be managed remotely. A flaw in the PC Anywhere software security allowed a hacker to get in remotely. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400609,00.asp

The attack happened in 2008. Most users were gone from dial up but a hacker somewhere was able to test phone numbers or somehow know that the number had a computer at the other end of it. They also somehow knew that it had PC Anywhere at the other end to target that. They got in and planted loggers to steal information. While running wireshark on the network to see what traffic was happening as part of a security audit it was detected that information was leaking out of the company through a trickle of information passed at time intervals. I saw the unusual IP, tracked this down and looked at the packets in the log. I then had to go in and kill the internet connection to stop the leak, and then trace down which computers are broadcasting these packets. There was just the HVAC computer infected as for by knowing the IP I found out what system it was. It seems as though the hacker was able to get onto that HVAC computer as admin, but unable to get to other systems, however they planted a keylogger that was broadcasting at timed intervals and they shut off Norton Corporate Edition AV so that their logger could run. No sensitive information was leaked out as for this system was rarely used. as long as everyone was happy with temperature of offices etc, it just sat in the dark running idle. Phone cord was unplugged from this HVAC system's modem and it was wiped clean and clean build as the fix. I was really surprised that of means of intrusion a hacker would still be targeting modem connections as of 2008 when DSL, Broadband, VPN's, Blue Tooth, and Wireless communications were more common.

After this it sparked a push to become PCI compliant and perform a full security audit. It also opened up the ability to spend to replace obsolete hardware that was insecure with better secure hardware. We found a secondary Point of Sale system that was storing peoples credit card numbers that we had to get rid of and get a more secure solution as for if someone broke in and grabbed the register, they would potentially have everyones numbers who ever bought anything through that register.

From then on the building guy didnt have ease of access to dial up to the HVAC computer from the road or from home, but at least that intrusion point was removed.