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    CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
    « on: December 02, 2016, 11:21:48 AM »
    Hello,

    I want to start by saying that I have searched for this topic everywhere and could not find help for my specific problem. Also, I am not well versed in computers. I am working with a NIXSYS NX-i90 system, NX853 Intel p4 CPU Motherboard with Legacy OS Support and MS DOS 6.22. This computer was custom made to work with an older instrument my research group uses. I had to install a cd-rom drive and the driver to go with it. I am pretty sure I did this correctly as, when I turn on the computer, it recognizes the cd drive and it recognizes the cd when inserted.

    The problem I am having is when I try to install the instruments software onto the computer. I have a cd with the backup files that I extracted and I am only able to copy some of them to the hard drive, it stops at a point and the prompt "CDR101 not ready reading" comes up, this is followed by a question to abort, fail, or end? I really don't know what is going on, I have checked all the cables and they seem to be connected properly, I am able to access the D:\ drive and the cd-rom drive is recognized, so I don't think the drive is bad, the only thing I can think is that I am installing the backup files incorrectly? Again I cannot find much help with this issue, my schools IT department is not versed in DOS, so I thought I would try a forum.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need more information.

    Thank you for your time
    Sam

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    Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 12:56:04 PM »
    I would try to determine if the failure to transfer data is due to the disk or the drive. Can you copy all of the disk contents by inserting it into a modern computer's optical drive and trying to copy the disk contents to a folder on that PC's hard drive? If this gives an error, inspect the disk carefully for blemishes, scratches, dirt, etc. if you decide to clean it, do so very carefully, especially if this is your only backup  disk. if the disk is really old, it may have deteriorated. If a copy operation is successful, you could try burning another disk.

    Is the CD-ROM drive a known good one? If it is old, maybe use of a lens cleaning disk could be worth a try. Or a different drive.

    I presume it is an IDE drive? You should inspect the data cable carefully for signs of damage such as cracking. Are the connectors fully inserted? If it is an 80-wire cable try a 40-wire one. In any case try to find a different cable.

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    Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
    « Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 01:00:38 PM »
    Grab the OakRom CD drivers...and follow This guide...
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      Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
      « Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 01:11:07 PM »
      Thanks for the input. I will try the suggestions and reinstalling the driver using the OakRom CD driver and let you know how that works.

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      Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
      « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 01:20:05 PM »
      Bring us good news on that old dinosaur... ;D
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        Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
        « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 07:31:34 AM »
        No good news as yet. I am thinking my problem is my cd drive. The model is a SONY dru-190a. I think this is an atapi drive not an ide, though I really don't know the difference between these drives. Could this be the reason I am having trouble? Now I am having a hard time finding a good driver to use. I tried the oakrom cd driver, but had no luck. The bios still shows the cd drive as being there but I cannot access the drive itself.
        I don't know if anyone has other ideas. I will be trying another cd drive in the next few weeks, but I just wanted to give an update. This is a project I am working on after my others so it may be a while before I spend a lot more time on this.
        Thanks for the help so far
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        Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
        « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 07:37:51 AM »
        Every "IDE" CD-ROM drive is an ATAPI drive.

        How are you trying to use the OAKCDROM.SYS driver? You need to both include a DEVICE or DEVICEHIGH command in config.sys as well as make the device accessible through MSCDEX.EXE.

        config.sys:
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        DEVICE=C:\OAK\OAKCDROM.SYS /D:OAKCD

        autoexec.bat:
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        MSCDEX /D:OAKCD
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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 10:31:39 AM »
          I did that for the config.sys and autoexec.bat, but when I insert the cd and try to access the d drive, it says it's not specified.

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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 10:58:57 AM »
          If you watch the b oot sequence when it loads MSCDEX it should indicate what drive letter it was assigned to.

          You'll have to provide the specific command you entered and the exact error message you receive.

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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 12:13:13 PM »
          May I ask why he wants to have a CD with DOS 6.22?
          That OS was intended for diskette drives.
          DOS 6.22 does not have a need for a CD-ROM.

          EDIT: He could use a modified DOS 6.22 that has CD support built-in.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fH9lDcpo9c
          A MS DOS 6.22 CD ISO  is found in various placers.
          « Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 12:23:30 PM by Geek-9pm »

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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #10 on: December 13, 2016, 12:23:51 PM »
          May I ask why he wants to have a CD with DOS 6.22?
          That OS was intended for diskette drives.
          DOS 6.22 does not have a need for a CD-ROM.

          he's not attempting to run DOS from CD...re-read the Post.
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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #11 on: December 13, 2016, 01:26:27 PM »
          Patio, id did  read and re read.
          He stated his project on the left foot.
          He should have stated on the right foot.
          The right foot would be to use a OS that  has CD-ROM support already.
          DOS 6.22 on a CD has built-in CD om support. On version I have used boots DOS 6.22 from a CD and does not use any hard drive space. No drivrs needed, not install needed, no hassle.
          But then, the OP did not say what he had in mind as a objective. Maybe he wanted to make something easy into something hard.
          Here is how to run DOS from a CD with not hard drive install needed.
          http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/how-to-create-bootable-msdos-622-cd/185071.html

          The above is a set of post from some who say you can't do it that way. But you can. It was done some time ago and documented and everybody forgot about it.

          Do you mean booting with a CD to install DOS 6.22?
          Or do you merely want to create a DOS 6.22 bootable CD?


          This is where every body gets stuck. No, it is about running DOS from a bootable CD, not about installation.
          « Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 01:41:20 PM by Geek-9pm »

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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #12 on: December 13, 2016, 01:58:26 PM »
          He has DOS up and running...he needs to get the CDROM working for an app that needs it...

          I read that entire link and didn't see where anyone made a DOS bootable CD with built in CDROM support BTW...

          2 of the alternate links within that link you posted are dead ends BTW.
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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #13 on: December 13, 2016, 02:00:49 PM »
          Smatthew...just thought of something...
          If after trying the OakRom drivers the drive didn't work...correct ? ?

          If a Work enviornment it's possible the drive is on it's way out...

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          I am only able to copy some of them to the hard drive, it stops at a point and the prompt "CDR101 not ready reading" comes up, this is followed by a question to abort, fail, or end?

          This is what got me thinkin along those lines...
          " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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          Re: CDR101 not ready reading on DOS 6.22
          « Reply #14 on: December 13, 2016, 02:11:37 PM »
          You can make a CD that has two partitions, a small one is an image of an MS-DOS, FreeDOS etc boot floppy with CD-ROM support, and would appear as Drive A:, the larger one is what MS-DOS sees as the CD-ROM drive letter. of course this depends on the target machine BIOS being able to support floppy emulation.
          Typical guide here using the "El Torito" method
          http://www.styma.org/bootcdrom/bootcdrom.shtml

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Torito_(CD-ROM_standard)