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    Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
    « on: March 29, 2017, 08:10:19 AM »
    Guys its official.  Our privacy rights have been spat on. The house has voted for the bill that allows ISP to sell our data to marketers and do whatever they want with it. Any suggestions for measures that can help protect my privacy against this ridiculous bill.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/28/congress_approves_sale_of_internet_histories/
    https://www.itbnews.info/2017/03/house-of-representatives-strikes-down-internet-privacy-rules/


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    Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
    « Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 10:27:16 AM »
    You can find more information on self-protection here.
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    Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
    « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 05:59:10 PM »
    Nothing has changed, as far as I can tell. In late 2016, The FCC enacted a new set of rules late last year that would override exemptions in 18 U.S. Code § 2511 and prevent U.S ISPs from gathering or selling data they would have otherwise been legally able to gather and sell. These privacy rules were set to come into effect later this year (2017).

    SJ Res 34 was a congressional review of that rule. The result if which is that the FCC rule that was proposed late last year- that is, 2016 - will never go into effect.

    Part of that US Code effectively exempts from wiretap law packets and data addressed to you- that is, it's not a violation of wiretap laws if you record and gather data that is directly addressed to your server. The new Rule was set to effectively prevent ISPS from using that exemption going forward to gather or sell any information.

    The exemption only really covers DNS lookups. Intercepting and recording actual web traffic is still illegal under the wiretap laws, and for the most part always has been. (Not that it matters quite so much with the push for https everywhere)
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    Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
    « Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 06:26:19 PM »
    Well done BC...

    I don't entertain politics here but people need to do more research...instead of freakin out on an obvious media red herring...
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    Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
    « Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 10:22:42 PM »
    Well done BC...

    I don't entertain politics here but people need to do more research...instead of freakin out on an obvious media red herring...

    I was curious when this started to hit the news a while ago and looked into it. It is somewhat concerning how the entire thing has been misrepresented by pretty much every article I can find, including those linked here; it rather neatly highlights Media sensationalism and in an incredible irony, illustrated how many different entities and organizations will willfully misrepresent information to support their own interests. There are websites claiming that this allows ISPs to track your web activity, or saying that this is the creation of a new law which allows such. I've seen posts on other forums calling for Americans to use Tor and other encrypted technologies to "prevent your ISPs from tracking your browsing"; All of which is completely ridiculous in the face of what has actually changed, which is absolutely nothing.

    Which is not to suggest that the Privacy Rule the FCC wanted implemented would have been a bad idea or that one should not question why that rule ended up rejected in review. Now, I'm no legal expert but personally I think the rule was overridden in review largely because it was an FCC Rule set to override established U.S Wiretapping Laws. It is my understanding that changing a Law requires a bill to amend those laws- that is, FCC Rules themselves cannot overreach U.S Law, and skip representative review. That seems like a sensible reason to override it, considering even if it had passed ISPs could likely have simply challenged the ruling on that basis and gotten it thrown out anyway. This certainly hasn't stopped the articles flowing in attaching dollar figures to "paid off" senators, however.
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      Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
      « Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 03:58:11 AM »
      I've made an easy to digest list of everything that has changed because of this:





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        Re: Privacy today, gone tomorrow. Thanks senators!:(
        « Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 04:14:06 AM »
        I liked what you wrote. I was just giving an update on the situation