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1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
« on: December 26, 2006, 09:28:15 PM »
In my computer/ properties my ram shaws as 960mb when it should be 1024mb.
The ram is a single stick of DDR pc3200 1Gig Kinston about 6months old.

Ran memtest and let it do 3runs, it showed no errors but it did show the ram as 960mb as well.
 
Where the heck is that 64 megs??

Is this normal?.

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Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2006, 01:33:19 AM »
First of all, I did a little research into your system and eMachines recommends the following:

DDR (PC 2100)

If you check the specs on your system (below), you'll see the video card uses 64 MB of shared memory.  Missing memory found!

http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=T-Series&model=T2642


Happy Holidays!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 01:33:50 AM by Saviour »

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    Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
    « Reply #2 on: December 27, 2006, 09:49:30 AM »
    Your signiture says you have "7600GS VGA." Is this an onboard card? If so, onboard cards "steal/borrow" some of your main system RAM in order to use as their video memory. You can change the amount used in your BIOS. If this is not an onboard card, it sounds to me like you have an onboard card and, even though you are not using it, you have not disabled it properly in the BIOS.

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      Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
      « Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 10:02:51 AM »
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      Your signiture says you have "7600GS VGA." Is this an onboard card? If so, onboard cards "steal/borrow" some of your main system RAM in order to use as their video memory. You can change the amount used in your BIOS. If this is not an onboard card, it sounds to me like you have an onboard card and, even though you are not using it, you have not disabled it properly in the BIOS.

      7600 GS is not onboard.

      Could it be that the OP forgot to disable the onboard VGA and isnt even using the 7600 GS?

      Also, i would not think a person who knows how many amps he has on the +12v rail(s), wouldnt know that his RAM is going towards his onboard video chip.
      « Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 10:04:18 AM by Track »
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      Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
      « Reply #4 on: December 27, 2006, 11:30:31 AM »
      Thanks for the replies, I feel kind of stupid because i just realized it.
      I figured it out last night (came to me in a dream actually)
      My 7600gs went *censored* up and is actually out getting fixed right now and I am using the onboard graphics which happens to use exacty 64megs of system ram. So that mystery is solved.
      (slaps forehead "DOH!").

      The motherboard installed on this computer right now is compatible with pc 3200 DDR in dimm 1, 2100 or 2700 in dim 2 and up to 2 gigabytes total memory(exactly 2 gigabytes, no 2048mb, go figure).


      Sorry to waste your time guys I really feel like a tool :-[

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      Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
      « Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 11:48:40 AM »
      I just want to see the video of a 7600gs
      going'*censored* up' :-?You must have a girl
      computer. :-?

      I think you question was fine,and you
      didn't waste anyones time. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

      I Feel like A Tool. :-? ;D
      « Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 11:54:25 AM by street1 »
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      Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
      « Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 11:59:30 AM »
      Thank you ;D

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        Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
        « Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 01:00:51 PM »
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        Thank you ;D

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          Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
          « Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 02:15:29 PM »
          2 gigabytes is 2048 megabytes.

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            Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
            « Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 04:52:45 PM »
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            2 gigabytes is 2048 megabytes.

            Yeh right.
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              Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
              « Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 05:06:57 PM »
              Was than an argeement or sarcasm?

              In each step up of terms, there is 2^10 of that unit. So 1 gigabyte is 2^10 megabytes = 1024 megabytes. This is because computer systems are based on binary and not decimal. Whether or not harddrive manufactors and so on listen to this fact is a different matter. That is why harddrives often have less "real" space on them than what is advertised. This is because the companies often advertise them with 1000 units needed for each step (ie 1gb is 1000mb) instead of 1024 units. The uneducated user is then suprised to find his 80gb harddrive, in Windows, is not quite so big.

              I have never heard of this ambiguousity with RAM, though, but unless the poster enlightens us with more information about what "exactly 2 gigabytes, no 2048mb, go figure" means, I cannot say much more. Since all RAM is sized using the binary system and not decimal, you would be very hard-pressed to find a stick of 1000/2000mb instead of 1024/2048mb, so I don't use how you could have exactly 2 gigabytes, but not 2048mb.

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              Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
              « Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 05:57:20 PM »
              Sorry let me clarify-
               I was informed that this motherboard (AsRock P4VM800) supports up to 2000Mb and no more, so if two 1gig sticks were to be installed the motherboard would ignore one of the sticks because the 2000mb limit would be exceeded.
              Judging by your responses I think someone was feeding me a load of horse sh1t (salesman)


              The AsRock website has this this info listed in the PDF manual that seems to support the idea I was mislead.
              quote-
              Memory: 2 DDR DIMM Slots: DDR1 and DDR2
              1 DDR DIMM Slot Supports PC3200 (DDR400), Max. 1GB,
              2 DDR DIMM Slots Supports PC2700 (DDR333) /
              PC2100 (DDR266), Max. 2GB

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                Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
                « Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 06:59:28 PM »
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                Was than an argeement or sarcasm?

                In each step up of terms, there is 2^10 of that unit. So 1 gigabyte is 2^10 megabytes = 1024 megabytes. This is because computer systems are based on binary and not decimal. Whether or not harddrive manufactors and so on listen to this fact is a different matter. That is why harddrives often have less "real" space on them than what is advertised. This is because the companies often advertise them with 1000 units needed for each step (ie 1gb is 1000mb) instead of 1024 units. The uneducated user is then suprised to find his 80gb harddrive, in Windows, is not quite so big.

                I have never heard of this ambiguousity with RAM, though, but unless the poster enlightens us with more information about what "exactly 2 gigabytes, no 2048mb, go figure" means, I cannot say much more. Since all RAM is sized using the binary system and not decimal, you would be very hard-pressed to find a stick of 1000/2000mb instead of 1024/2048mb, so I don't use how you could have exactly 2 gigabytes, but not 2048mb.

                2GB is 2000MB, what are u stupid?



                No seriously, did u just write all that down for me?  :D
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                Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
                « Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 07:20:02 PM »
                Neil is correct!

                2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048------>infinity!


                                      


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                « Last Edit: December 27, 2006, 07:31:03 PM by street1 »
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                Re: 1024mb ram showing as 960mb, whats going on?
                « Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 09:08:24 PM »
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                Sorry let me clarify-
                 I was informed that this motherboard (AsRock P4VM800) supports up to 2000Mb and no more, so if two 1gig sticks were to be installed the motherboard would ignore one of the sticks because the 2000mb limit would be exceeded.
                Judging by your responses I think someone was feeding me a load of horse sh1t (salesman)


                The AsRock website has this this info listed in the PDF manual that seems to support the idea I was mislead.
                quote-
                Memory: 2 DDR DIMM Slots: DDR1 and DDR2
                1 DDR DIMM Slot Supports PC3200 (DDR400), Max. 1GB,
                2 DDR DIMM Slots Supports PC2700 (DDR333) /
                PC2100 (DDR266), Max. 2GB
                Yep, the salesman was incorrect.  As Neil said, 2GB = 2048MB.  And, that's confirmed by Crucial's Memory Advisor Tool: http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=P4VM800