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Intel & Google in the News
« on: September 20, 2017, 12:43:39 AM »
Yes, Intel just made a new advance in chip making. They now have a 10 nm wafer.
But the big news is what Intel and Google are doing that will have move impact on everybody's life. Here is what I mean. Look at this:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4108155-intel-google-can-rule-autonomous-car-industry
Intel And Google Can Rule The Autonomous Car Industry

If you are an individual who can not drive or cannot own an automobile, this will be important to you. {My wife will not let me drive her car.}
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After completing its $15.3 billion acquisition of Mobileye last month, Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) is wasting no time recovering its investment. CEO Krzanich used a blog post to announce that Intel is now working with Google’s (GOOG, GOOGL) self-driving car unit, Waymo. Intel and Waymo are collaborating toward producing level 4 and level 5 autonomous cars. While only announced now, this partnership actually started during the early days of Google's self-driving car efforts back in 2009.
Waymo’s current self-driving test unit, the Chrysler minivan has been using an Intel-made custom chip since 2015 to process information from its sensors and to manage its connectivity.
I copied the picture and added something...  ::)


I want one... Now!  8)

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Re: Intel & Google in the News
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 01:38:43 AM »
I'm still waiting for the bloody hover board.  (And No, not that 'special' one they made a couple of years ago that needs super cooling and only works above a special track for 10 seconds)

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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 06:45:15 AM »
    What happened to world's first Self-Driving by Uber?

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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 12:11:50 PM »
    I'm curious into what fail safe and redundant systems are in place for these cars. If a satellite dies and GPS is dead, do they just veer off into the trees or what. Next will be automated airlines. No pilots because they can be hijacked. hmmm and the AI system cant be tricked into crashing like the Die Hard movie pops into my head with altimeter offset so it thinks its higher than it actually is. I have a hard enough time using cruise control in my car. I played with it to check it out but steering and having the car control gas and brakes to hold a constant speed to me is too lazy and i feel a lack of control in only steering or tapping brake to get it to stop accelerating towards that slow car. Im quite happy having as much control as i can, but you know what they say you have to worry about other drivers, well people are generally not suicidal and so they wont pull out in front of you. I dont like the idea that a automated car can decide to just pull out in front of me to which I could be killed and the owner of the vehicle says oh well not my fault, blame the manufacturer, as they were at air port waiting for their car to pick them up because its cheaper to tell their car to drive itself home and drive back to pick them up 2 weeks later vs pay for the expensive airport parking of $12 a day for 14 days.

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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 02:22:20 PM »
    DaveLembke,
    I agree with you.
    Many people have lost their driver's license. I am among these.

    So, for those who can not drive and can not hire a driver, the automated card would be the choice.
    Yhe alternative would be a good public transportation stem. But few  cities in the USA have good public transportation. So, not being able to resolve the political issues, mean are turning toward technology.
    Sorry, not allowed to make cements about the political scene. Just wanted to say tact if the politics was better, we would not have to turn to technology as much.
    This is related:
    https://smartasset.com/mortgage/best-cities-for-public-transportation
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    Transit is gaining steam. The total number of transit users was up 9% from 2011 in the 136 cities in SmartAsset’s analysis. In major cities in the west and in Texas, including San Jose, Dallas, Seattle and Denver, transit use increased by more than 20%.
    If so, then maybe things are getting better.
    I mean better in transportation.  :)

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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 02:42:48 PM »
    So far, while self-driving cars have been in accidents, all of them have had it discovered that the accident was caused by the driver taking over from the system. That's pretty promising on it's own. Notwithstanding the case where a Google car pulled out in front of a bus trying to drive around sandbags, but given that was after 1.3 Million miles, that's still a fairly good track record.

    Just being a pedestrian I've had a few encounters with cars nearly hitting me at crosswalks or intersections because the driver wasn't paying attention. Usually it's some idiot glued to their phone. I'd rather a computer system that was always paying attention than a person who almost never was.

    If we're at a crossroads when it comes to self-driving cars I think the ethical "trolley problem" we have is deciding between not working on and implementing self-driving cars and continue on with all the preventable deaths we have today due to car accidents, or make car travel universally safer at the cost of letting an AI make a few moral decisions.

    I think in some sense it's a cognitive bias. We think of things "keeping on as they were" as being normal, and therefore people dying because things remained unchanged were totally natural. It's why accidents involving self-driving cars are so newsworthy- they reaffirm our cognitive bias that nothing should change. It's the same reason that accidents involving cars rather than carriages were newsworthy around the time of their original introduction, when "high-speed chase" meant a bicycle- or accidents involved people rubber-necking one of the new horseless carriages and not paying attention, which we also see with self-driven cars which have no driver occupant.

    So far, 99% of the information leans in that direction when it comes to self-driving cars versus cars driven by their human occupants. I'd argue that we have all the information and acting on it to make travel safer for everybody is almost an ethical obligation to develop and make the technology available at this point.

    Self-driving cars cache information and can observe their surroundings. They don't rely on an Internet Connection to work.

    Self-flying aircraft is already a thing but I don't think it will be a thing for commercial airlines anytime soon. The advantage of self-driving cars is a reduction in accidents, injuries, and deaths, but there isn't nearly the potential to see those sort of improvements from a fully autonomous 747 for example.
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 02:44:05 PM »
    "All of them "....i think that's innacurate at best...
       
     
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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 03:06:51 PM »
    "All of them "....i think that's innacurate at best...

    Fair enough,"Almost all of them" would probably be more accurate, though other than the car pulling out in front of a bus due to other road conditions (a mistake a human can easily make anyway) I can't find any other examples. Definitely a solid majority of articles covering autonomous vehicle crashes end up being a case of the occupant taking over and trying to blame the self-driving aspect of their vehicle.

    Regardless, IMO people take the responsibility of driving speeding metal death boxes on the road far too lightly. It's why places need to actually *legislate* that people not use smartphones while driving, which is an absolutely insane concept to me. That should never have been necessary. But it's become so passe that we accept it and then interpret the results of the resulting lack of due care and attention as being natural. Often the reaction to seeing a mom driving a heavy SUV down the highway at speed who is on their smartphone while tying their kids shoe is to roll eyes rather than anything that would be more appropriate for such an apathetic attitude towards somebodies responsibility to avoid vehicular manslaughter.

    A self-driving car isn't going to pull a Jeena Roberts. Honestly? I think that's enough for me.
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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 03:11:17 PM »
    Are you stating that self driving cars cannot text while driving or tie a kids shoes ? ?

    If so they are worthless...
       
     
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    Re: Intel & Google in the News
    « Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 03:46:57 PM »
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    Are you stating that self driving cars cannot text while driving or tie a kids shoes ? ?

    If so they are worthless...

    and why does the Jetsons pop into my head reading that ...  ;D