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Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« on: September 08, 2008, 05:40:36 PM »
Probable memory lapse here - <changes self to 'senile' label!).

I am sure way back I managed on last PC to set things up so my default listing display in ''save'', ''save as'' or ''open''  was 'details - last modified'.  Very often I want to see my last save and most recent file ..... and not have to select 'details' then punch the 'last modified' top bar!!

Any thoughts?  I can't remember if and how!
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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 07:15:59 PM »
Wait a sec. I even don't understand what you're saying.

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 07:24:23 PM »
Let me try again!  ;)

If I go to save, save as or open a file - the listing of existing files is either default alpha-numeric - or on occasions random.  So it might start at ''a'' and on thru ''z'' etc .... folders first then files.

If I use the icon "view menu" I can select "thumbnails", "tiles', ''icons'', "list" or ''details''.  I am sure I used to have a way to set default so it showed as ''details'' every time ... and with ''last modified'' showing first.  Right now i have to go thru setting this up every time I go to save, open etc.

In Win Explorer if this was used in a folder it'll hold that option for the next viewing.

I often need to see my files in date order rather than name and so a default I choose that will enable this every time is useful.

If still no idea what I am rambling on about - no sweat - it's hardly life-threatening!  :) But I am just frustrated as I am sure I used to set this up as a chosen default!
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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 07:30:32 PM »
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If I go to save, save as or open a file - the listing of existing files is either default alpha-numeric
Where? I'm really trying to understand...LOL

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 07:42:43 PM »
Oh dear!!! :P

OK - let's imagine you have written a small txt file - you go to ''save as'' - what do you see?

I see a listing of folders and files which are usually (if lucky) an ordered list according to alpha-numeric.  ''A-file.txt'' will appear first and maybe ''zulu.txt'' will appear last - if I scroll across or down.

However - as I might often be wishing to save repeats of a new file - like ''newfile-01.txt - then newfile-02.txt etc ... it helps if I see my files listing as I want - which is the first to show being the ''last modified'' - and so I select it - change the 01 to 02 and off I go again! (lazy approach).

I also often want only to see my last save - so again the ''last modified'' showing as default is desirable - without having to make selections specially.

Don't worry - I might post a coupla screen grabs later to try and explain better.

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 07:47:00 PM »
C'mmon, Chris, you know better than this:
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OK - let's imagine you have written a small txt file - you go to ''save as'' - what do you see?
In what program? Every program is different.

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 07:51:34 PM »
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In what program? Every program is different.

<sigh>  :D - yeah I know but - for any given app' - files might show for horizontal scroll - vertical scoll - that doesn't matter...  it's what files show first!!!  I don't want the folders or files beginmning with ''a'' to show top of list - I want (without having to set it up - cos am lazy!) - to see last modifed by default!

Don't worry - I will try tomorrow maybe to post a coupla grabs - one with default display and one with what I want to make my default.
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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 07:55:30 PM »
OK, this is "Save As" window from Wordpad, and I can't see any list of files:


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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 08:08:30 PM »
OK, this is "Save As" window from Wordpad, and I can't see any list of files:



Look at his name Broni:

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over 90% of save dialog boxes in XP use the GetOpenFileName() API function to display the common dialog to which I'm sure he refers.

Windows Vista uses a separate paradigm called Common Item dialogs or something with an equally generic name,
I honestly looked into this, since I was getting really annoyed since it kept default to icons for some reason.


The thing is- I'm not sure if there is a registry setting for this that will apply to all of the programs that use it. If not it would be necessary to somehow subclass the dialog and set the listview style to Details- in addition to messing with the columnheaders...

I think I'll look into this, I have a feeling their likely is a registry setting that might help with this.
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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 08:12:41 PM »
Hmmm - could be that I am using Windows Classic for my set up.  This must be confusing the issue - sorry - had not considered the (yuk) XP 'look'..

I hate XP visuals - and so am set up looking pretty much like Win 2k.

OK - here are grabs from an old folder ........ so - folders appear first in listing - then alpha numeric listing of files.  From the top right icon I can elect to show details - and then will see as second pic - with option to select the ''date modified".  I am wanting to keep that setting as a default.

Sorry about confusion - you gotta think back to the look of '98 and Win 2k ..... should have specified this.



BC_ - see you just posted - yes I would expect a setting to be app specific and - sure I used to have a way to do it!!

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 08:20:49 PM »
OK, this?


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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 08:25:02 PM »
Well yeah - but my version!  :)

The top right icon - get a list of files - not just folders -  and select ''details'' and then punch the ''date modified'' bar - twice actually to bring latest file to top.

That is what I want to set as default.
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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 08:34:41 PM »
Got ya now....Let's see, if we can do something about it.

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 08:45:27 PM »
For now, I found out, that the sort order is controlled by ShellState key in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Default hex value of that key is:
24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
but that's probably as far as I'm able to go, unless I'll find some more info.

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Re: Save, save as and open - details and ordering
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 08:48:49 PM »
The above is from XP. In my Vista, numbers are little bit different:


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