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    Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
    « on: December 29, 2009, 02:49:38 PM »
    I have windows 7 64-bit, but my hardware requires 32-bit. Since I can't install x86, can I make my x64 act like its x86? Is it possible?  ???

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    Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
    « Reply #1 on: December 29, 2009, 02:58:22 PM »
    yes. just install the 32-bit version.

    oops, didn't understand.

    why do you need x86?
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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      Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
      « Reply #2 on: December 29, 2009, 03:00:24 PM »
      don't ask.... just tell me if its possible... (long story  ::))

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      Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
      « Reply #3 on: December 29, 2009, 03:07:18 PM »
      If it's for a certain 32-bit program you can run the 32-bit program.

      But if your trying to install a hardware device as indicated by your first post, that only has 32-bit drivers then you will NEED to install a 32-bit OS; windows x64 cannot use 32-bit drivers.
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      Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
      « Reply #4 on: December 29, 2009, 03:11:19 PM »
      don't ask.... just tell me if its possible... (long story  ::))

      NO.   >:(
      YES.   ;D
      MAYBE.   :-\
      All three answers could be given to you broad question.
      We are not sure why you say "my hardware requires 32-bit"

      My guess is NO.
      You are using an old hardware device that does not have a 64 bit driver.
      -Right?
      Anything that requires a drive not included in the OS must have a 64 bit driver.

      Opp.sBC said it first. I was slow on the draw.

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        Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
        « Reply #5 on: December 29, 2009, 03:13:05 PM »
        i already asked the support service for hardware... they said that they haven't developed 64-bit drivers for windows 7 for the device.

        Since I don't have 32-bit windows 7, can I make 64-bit windows 7 act like its 32-bit, so i could install the device?
        something like adding windows XP window to windows 7, but adding 32-bit win 7 to 64-bit win 7...  :P


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        Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
        « Reply #6 on: December 29, 2009, 03:15:46 PM »
        If it's a driver you need, then you need that driver.  No amount of chicken sacrifices will help you there.  Why not replace the device with one that is supported?
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        Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
        « Reply #7 on: December 29, 2009, 03:17:58 PM »
        If there was a 64-bit Vista driver developed you can use that... other then that, you can't use a 32-bit driver within 64-bit windows.
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          Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
          « Reply #8 on: December 29, 2009, 03:24:16 PM »
          I can't use vista 64-bit because there are no 64-bit drivers developed for the hardware.

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          Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
          « Reply #9 on: December 29, 2009, 03:25:30 PM »
          Here's the quick answer to your question.
          And it's also the best answer.
          This idea comes from Patio, not me. I have tried it and it works perfectly. You just install a second hard drive, disable or remove the primary drive, next nstall Windows XP  as a clean install on the second drive. After Windows XP is up and running, install your special application and run it.

          Later, you can enable the first drive. Then when you power up you'll want to hit a key that lets you go into a BIOS menu that lets you select the boot drive.

          Don't bother with the different ideas people have about how you can put both operating systems on one drive. I did that. Got rid of it. Now I  use two drives. The one drive solution is a real headache. Avoid it.

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          Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
          « Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 03:28:02 PM »
          I know someone who is running Windows 7 64 bit and using their Canon laser printer, which does not have 64 bit drivers, from a VMware install of 32 bit XP.

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            Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
            « Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 03:29:23 PM »
            Geek-9PM, i haven't mentioned i'm using a laptop... could using a second partition do the trick?

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            Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
            « Reply #12 on: December 29, 2009, 03:46:57 PM »
            Yeah, you can do that. But you will not like it.
            Still, you need to get a bigger drive.
            If you have a desktop available and the right adapters kyou can put both Windows 7 and XP on one drive with maybe four partition.s
            Windows 7 wants two. Give EXP one. An a big partition for your backups, which you will need.
            Some of the partition wokr should be done on a desktop.
            Don't use UASB adapters. Put the drive into a desktop.

            Sorry I am a little slow on this. It's hard for me to correct my spelling and grammar errors. But nevermind that.
            I need to explain to you the the right order of things. What you're going to do with a new drive is stick it into a laptop and boot the XP install disk and install XP on to the new drive. But, you want to use that opportunity to make some partitions you want to have a large area that can be used later as a backup area. And you want to leave another large area that's going to be used by the Windows 7. Now the part that's hard to figure out is exactly how Windows 7 is going to rearrange the stuff. Anyway we get to the point where Windows XP is up and running on the lap top and there is an extra partition available and there's a lot of free space available.
            Now then, we take the new XP drive out to the laptop put it over into the desktop and somehow are going to try to use one of the partition programs like to the Acronis and try to copy your Windows 7 partition on to the new drive, hopefully they'll be a low space left over in case it's needed.
            Now before this I trust issue of already made a Windows 7 recovery CD. We will need that.
            So what to do if you put the the XP disk back in the computer and it has the Windows 7 stuff in a partition and of course Windows XP will not know anything about that in your just boot up and Windows XP. Now we know that it's still working, most restarts the laptop with the Windows 7 recovery CD and we will probably need the Windows 7 DVD handy just in case. The recovery CD will try to figure out what you did and reestablish vindication with the Windows 7 installation. This is the hard part. Maybe it will work if it does you now have a dual-boot computer that'll come up and ask you if you want to use Windows 741 earlier version of Windows. And basically that's it. But, the hard part is if you ever damage the XP installation you're in for a hard time.
            For you the details I left out of her the other fellows here will fill you in for the parts I might have skipped over. Basically, you're going to end up with a Windows 7 system is not working right because XP was installed first and the Windows 7 is just a copy of the original system. Kind of clumsy.
            While, that's one way to do it. May be not the best way.,
            But I really do think you should try it with the newer larger drive. That way the original.drive if your backup if everything goes wrong.





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              Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
              « Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 03:59:41 PM »
              oookay... that's a bit complicated... but I'll see what I can do... :)

              thank you all for helpin' me out. really appreciate it.  ;)

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              Re: Make Windows 7 X64 work like x86??
              « Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 04:06:23 PM »
              I know someone who is running Windows 7 64 bit and using their Canon laser printer, which does not have 64 bit drivers, from a VMware install of 32 bit XP.

              That sounds like it would be easier to replace the printer.
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