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Title: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 02, 2008, 03:41:25 AM
 :o WOW! This is huge... Always took Firefox as being the Google browser.

Bidding to dominate not only what people do on the Web but how they get from site to site, Google Inc. plans to release a browser today to compete with the likes of Internet Explorer and Firefox.

It's yet another salvo in the company's intensifying battle with Microsoft Corp., which last week released a beta, or test, version of Internet Explorer 8 that makes it easier to block ads from Google and others.

Link (http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-google2-2008sep02,1,2493823.story)

Comic link from Google blog about Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/)

Since they mentioned on the 1st that it'd be coming out the next day. When someone sees that it's available please make sure to post the link for us. :)


Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: GX44 on September 02, 2008, 04:21:32 AM
I've had a look, but can't find anything yet...

This (http://gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en) link is the closest I can find but it re-directs to the main google page....

Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Google on September 02, 2008, 08:08:43 AM
MAN, that is soo awesome. I am a huge fan of google, so I will definitely use this as my MAIN browser over firefox. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Google on September 02, 2008, 08:11:11 AM
This will be the download link when it is released:
gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: GX44 on September 02, 2008, 08:17:01 AM
This will be the download link when it is released:
http://www.i4u.com/gears.google.com/chrome/?hl=en

Awesome... I'll be downloading this once it's released to check it out. I love firefox but if this is any good I'll prob use it as my secondary browser. As long as my options don't include IE I'm happy  8)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 02, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

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Wouldn't it be great then to start from scratch -- and design something based on the needs of today's applications and today's users?

Hmmm.......Nice......
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Dias de verano on September 02, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
I'm using it right now, to make this post. Looks cool; there's no menu bar that I can see but everything I need to do, I can do.

I got it here

http://www.google.com/chrome
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 02, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
I'm using it right now, to make this post. Looks cool; there's no menu bar that I can see but everything I need to do, I can do.

I got it here

http://www.google.com/chrome


Nice thanks for the link downloading now will check out later tonight. Like their icon.

(http://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/res/chrome/images/chrome-205_noshadow.png)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: evilfantasy on September 02, 2008, 01:27:18 PM
It is pretty basic but surely that will change in the future and has all of the basics now, popup blocker, phishing and malware protection, cookie handling, password manager....

As many Google services as I use now if it get's near what Firefox is now then I will be switching. But not yet...

Looks nice in the Dock also :)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Dead_reckon on September 02, 2008, 01:34:10 PM
Google Chrome; One step closer to the domination of the world for Google.. There starting backwards compared to Microsoft, Microsoft's internet browser and search engine came last, with Google, the search engine came first, the browser is next, whats after that? Google OS? Another operating system I must learn because companies like Dell may sponsor its use? Thanks again to the mass marketing machine, I'm sure Google will pull something that will amount to some sort of Operating System, if it be open source, or not, I know they'll try after being bullied by Microsoft for so long.

Its bad enough no two computers out there are built the same, let alone that every user has too buy a completely different model that is equally as useless as the last users computer. The computer world is rapidly expanding to the point where there is little hope for the End User to ever understand a computer if they don't soon learn. Oh well, more money from fixing more computers infested with newer porn related viruses on yet another potential OS. What else is new?

Give it a few years, you won't just have near limitless hardware to choose from like you do now, you'll also have a load of operating systems to choose from. Which will leave me, the guy repairing the computers, running in circles trying to keep up too date with all the operating systems out there.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 02, 2008, 01:41:06 PM
Well just decided to try now since I'm not having to leave the office quite yet... looks pretty good. Pretty cool how the message box or any textarea box can be resized, has a spell checker, etc. Looks good. However, I don't like how I don't have a status bar or maybe I do.. still deciding. It's also nice that they didn't force it upon you, upon install it didn't default the browser to Google Chrome.

As far as a Google OS, I don't think they'll need to do that or for that matter want to do that.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: Dias de verano on September 02, 2008, 01:42:45 PM
I don't share your gloomy outlook, Dead_Reckon: what you criticise (UK spelling) I actually find interesting and challenging. I'd absolutely hate it if all computers were exactly the same and there was only one of everything, OS, browser, programming language, whatever.

In any case, it's not a question (in my opinion, anyway) of having to 'learn' an OS like you learn French or Italian or English. Just get as knowledgeable as you can about computers in general and how they are used and then the differences won't seem to matter so much because you have an underlying understanding. That's what i think anyway, and that is why i am having some fun now with OpenSolaris.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft
Post by: evilfantasy on September 02, 2008, 01:43:59 PM
Not happy about it adding Google Update to the startup and as a service.

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It's also nice that they didn't force it upon you, upon install it didn't default the browser to Google Chrome.

Agreed. I just knew that would happen but nice to see that it didn't.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dias de verano on September 02, 2008, 01:48:59 PM
It spell checks as you type into text boxes, and it seems to know that 'color' is a spelling mistake where I live.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dead_reckon on September 02, 2008, 02:00:14 PM
I'm not saying I like everything to be the same either. Its just rather annoying to have to sit through the mess large companies cause by trying to "Protect" there products. Good example; WGA, I have to play Phone An Asian (I didn't mean that in a racist manner, just that they've outsourced there tech support too Asia, and there accents over there make trying to re-activate windows that much more annoying) with Microsoft's WGA every time I install XP on someones computer so I can re-activate it, trust me, that is THE MOST annoying activation process of ANY product I have EVER seen.

But my point is, having several manufactures who change the design of there computer per model, and deem something outdated after X amount of years only stacks on top of the never ending release of new versions of operating systems, and release of new operating systems all together. Its just a bit bothersome to need ten thousand CD's and have too dodge some anti-piracy feature just too get someones computer working again simply because there computer has been activated more than once because they can't stop getting viruses because they have a chronic porn addiction or whatever. Do we REALLY need so much new stuff? I can understand updates and whatnot, but things seem to be just simply pushed aside too soon these days.

I mean, you don't go out and buy a car and expect IT can't drive on the roads because its out of date by a couple months do you? So why are we tolerating these companies deeming things out of date so quickly in the land of software and hardware? Its just a way to make us spend more, the never ending climb to the top of the money pile.

Point being, for every new piece of software or hardware out there, someone will near immediately try to make a better version of it. "Oh look, we've made it faster, oh look, we've made it more reliable, oh look, we've made it faster AND more reliable AGAIN". All this just seems too get old after a while, can't they just program something worth a crap that doesn't NEED too be completely replaced in a few months or years? Seems to be to much competition out there and to little innovation is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dias de verano on September 02, 2008, 02:08:18 PM
I'm sure you have some valid points, dead reckon, but could you, just for me, spell 'their' like that please? By the way, my son in law is Indian, and he can certainly write better English than you can, and I expect he might have trouble understanding your "annoying" accent, maybe?
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: !~*:.Pink Floyd.:*~! on September 02, 2008, 02:53:49 PM
This was on UG im gonna try it is customizeable like Frirefox

some quotes what people have said about it.

Quote from: swordsrkewl
Chrome is shiny, I like shiny.....

Quote from: identityxcrysis
Yeaaaa no.

Lol.

Im downloading it right now I LOVE THE ICON AND THE THEME FOR IT!!!


Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: evilfantasy on September 02, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
This is pretty cool. You can "go incognito"

You've gone incognito. Pages you view in this window won't appear in your browser history or search history, and they won't leave other traces, like cookies, on your computer after you close the incognito window. Any files you download or bookmarks you create will be preserved, however.

Going incognito doesn't affect the behavior of other people, servers, or software. Be wary of:
Websites that collect or share information about you
Internet service providers or employers that track the pages you visit
Malicious software that tracks your keystrokes in exchange for free smileys
Surveillance by secret agents
People standing behind you
Learn more (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95464&hl=en-US) about incognito browsing.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dead_reckon on September 02, 2008, 04:08:45 PM
As a note t'wards Dias, there is a bit of a difference between someone learning English now, and someone who was screwed by the school system his whole life trying too learn what they teach everyone that comes into this country so openly, namely, myself.

As a note t'wards Google Chrome, I'll probably check it out. But if it ain't got stumble, it ain't gonna work for me. I gotta have stumble when boredom hits. Though, I hate Google Updater... I always uninstall that, I'm hoping they'll integrate an updater into Google earth and such eventually.. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 02, 2008, 05:49:40 PM
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I'll probably check it out. But if it ain't got stumble, it ain't gonna work for me.

I'll definately agree with you on that, which is why I'm not going to primarily use Google Chrome either. I'm sure over time they'll be getting plug-ins and other add-ons. I'd be willing to bet they'll be incorporating the Google Widgets into the browser as well which could be interesting.

One of Firefox's biggest draws is all the available add-ons they have and any browser that wants to be successful should definately have that as one of their top priorities.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 02, 2008, 06:43:15 PM
Just downloaded and installed - whole process took about 3 min including importing my FF settings. I've used it about 5 minutes and so far am impressed. Feels very 'lightweight' and is very quick, especially for a new beta. But, I actually saw an ad - no AdBlock+  :'(

Learn about it here: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/features.html?open

Get it here: http://www.google.com/chrome?open
Title: Re: Googlebrowser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 02, 2008, 07:40:48 PM
I heard google chrome is based on Apple Safari's WebKit rendering engine.

But at least it doesn't say that I have an unsupported browser when I open up yahoo mail (unlike Apple Safari the last time I tried it and Safari on Windows looks super ugly  >:()

It just needs an adblock tool like Firefox and that's all for now.
Title: Re: Googlebrowser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: evilfantasy on September 02, 2008, 08:13:04 PM
Why Google Chrome? Fast browsing = $$$ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030717-2.html?tag=mncol;posts)

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Chrome's V8 engine

Google's has a two-part claim to faster performance. One is its use of the open-source WebKit project, also used in Apple's Safari, to render Web pages on the browser screen engine for showing Web pages. More important for Web applications, though, is the brand-new V8 project for running programs written in JavaScript.
JavaScript has grown from modest beginnings into the language of many fancy, interactive Web sites and the foundational technology for rich Web applications using a technology called Ajax. However, for many applications, it's not powerful enough, which is why Picnik's online photo editing tools use Adobe's Flash and why Microsoft is pushing its own technology called Silverlight.
Google, Yahoo, and others, though, are JavaScript fans, and speeding it up will boost countless Web sites, not just bleeding-edge applications such as Google Docs. Faster JavaScript performance is why Mozilla is so eager to talk about a project called TraceMonkey coming with Firefox 3.1, why WebKit programmers are working hard on a project called SquirrelFish, and one reason why Microsoft is eager to move people to its forthcoming Internet Explorer 8.
Title: Re: Googlebrowser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 02, 2008, 09:24:09 PM
I installed it today. Nice, fast, still....long way to go...
Title: Re: Googlebrowser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 02, 2008, 09:30:01 PM
The most basic web browser.....Nice.
Title: Re: Googlebrowser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 02, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
I installed it today. Nice, fast, still....long way to go...

Well, Google has said it's still beta so it is still okay. Only feature that beats this google browser in firefox is firefox's addons.



The most basic web browser.....Nice.

This is what internet explorer should have looked like.

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 02, 2008, 10:26:04 PM

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This is what internet explorer should have looked like.

Give Microsoft a few months. ;)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 02, 2008, 10:27:29 PM
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This is what internet explorer should have looked like.
Even, if IE was made out of chocolate, I won't use it :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 02, 2008, 11:41:12 PM
well at least there's IE Tab addon in firefox. If on any rare occasions that a website needs to use IE or a webpage needs to display adverts to properly work, I can use IE tab!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 03:01:54 AM
I have already sent like half a dozen bug reports with the Google Browser. (Most related to this website)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 03, 2008, 04:22:08 AM
I have already sent like half a dozen bug reports with the Google Browser. (Most related to this website)

Ohh yeah? What type of issues are you seeing with this website and Google Chrome?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 04:26:42 AM
I actually posted it earlier somewhere else.

Actually quite a few.

Cannot save Quick Editing by pressing Alt S (brings me to a new reply pge)

Also, when you click Save in Quick Editing, the green loading bar stays up.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 08:32:19 AM
Wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlh8gSF_hhE
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 09:35:59 AM
I actually posted it earlier somewhere else.

Actually quite a few.

Cannot save Quick Editing by pressing Alt S (brings me to a new reply pge)

Also, when you click Save in Quick Editing, the green loading bar stays up.
I'm not familiar with Quick Editing but try SHIFT+ALT+S to save; SHIFT+ALT+P to preview.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 09:43:03 AM
Anyone else notice repetitive, intermittent hard drive activity with Chrome?

If I just "sit" at a page, I get the above and some internet activity. I turned off DNS pre-fetching, no apparent effect. Also turned off the "Google Update" service in Task Manager.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 09:44:58 AM
Anyone else notice repetitive, intermittent hard drive activity with Chrome?

If I just "sit" at a page, I get the above and some internet activity. I turned off DNS pre-fetching, no apparent effect. Also turned off the "Google Update" service in Task Manager.

Yes, I have just noticed it. Chrome may be pretty fast, but the CPU Usage keeps jumping around.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Actually it seems ok now.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 09:53:08 AM
When I come to this page, the hard drive and internet activity 'pulse' for a couple minutes.


Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 09:53:58 AM
Check this out: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?part=rss

Java speed tests.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 03, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
Another three bugs reported to Google.

Great browser though.

Nice Find, Kpac
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 03, 2008, 11:04:09 AM
can't they just program something worth a crap that doesn't NEED too be completely replaced in a few months or years?

whose telling you that you "NEED" to replace any of your software? The companies. The irony is your posts reflect that you don't trust the companies as far as you can throw them, and yet you'll believe them when they label their software obsolete when a new version appears?

In addition, if people decide to switch to a new Word processor, Browser, Spreadsheet, etc program, that program obviously brings something new to the table, which can subsequently be labelled an "innovation".

Microsoft claims that disabling windows update poses a huge security risk. I have had mine disabled for as long as I remember, and I've had far fewer problems with Viruses and malware then my friends have had with windows update breaking something.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: weber on September 03, 2008, 12:13:22 PM
I have it in fact im using it now I have to say that it is the best one ever the URL/search bar is ace and I like the screen grab links to your last used sites also the text is nice and big. If you don't have it get it. Plus it has a spell check built in like in office - the red line...

There are some problems like you have to get all the plugins all over agane and some websites don't like it like freewebs (and even that works on its old system)
So yar its gddd!! ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 04:27:16 PM
Another look at Chrome: http://www.technibble.com/a-technicians-look-at-google-chrome/
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Of course, everything isnt perfect about Google Chrome. Their EULA is a nasty one. It says that anything I write though the Google browser (such as this article) becomes the property of Google.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 03, 2008, 04:32:32 PM
Another look at Chrome: http://www.technibble.com/a-technicians-look-at-google-chrome/
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Of course, everything isnt perfect about Google Chrome. Their EULA is a nasty one. It says that anything I write though the Google browser (such as this article) becomes the property of Google.

Wow. Wouldn't have surprised me if it installed Google desktop automatically, too.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
Another look at Chrome: http://www.technibble.com/a-technicians-look-at-google-chrome/
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Of course, everything isnt perfect about Google Chrome. Their EULA is a nasty one. It says that anything I write though the Google browser (such as this article) becomes the property of Google.
From the EULA: "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

Not only can they "reproduce" content, they can CHANGE ("modify") it!

Good catch, Broni! Bye, Bye Chrome for me :'(
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 03, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
Hmm that is really disturbing. Privacy advocates are going to be all over this. I think I'll stick with Firefox for now as well.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 04:59:43 PM
You can read more about the above issue:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10030522-56.html?tag=mncol;txt
http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 05:12:40 PM
Because of the above, I said: "It's a goner from my computer".
Went to uninstall it.
Good luck, though.
At first, I got this:

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4122228.gif)

Trying to be funny?

Then...
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4122230.gif)

I had to remove it manually, used System Restore to yesterday, and CCleaner to get rid of that thing.

Anybody said: Don't install betas?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Google on September 03, 2008, 05:14:07 PM
Hmm that is really disturbing. Privacy advocates are going to be all over this. I think I'll stick with Firefox for now as well.

Yea, I think I will too. That pretty stupid. They're always stealing information from us. No more [privacy from google. What happened to "We create our products according to the customers needs, not ours"??
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 05:16:41 PM
Hmmmm...

I got the first screen, clicked "OK" and it took me to the web where I was informed that Chrome was uninstalled and wanted a reason for the uninstall. No nagging, just a "check the box" screen.

EDIT: FYI - No uninstall in Add/Remove Programs; had to go to All Programs.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 05:23:52 PM
Hmm, interesting.
You had a good luck with uninstalling, I didn't, then...
My Google was listed in Vista's "Programs, and Features" (Add\Remove), yours not.
Oh well...
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 05:33:18 PM
Hmm, interesting.
You had a good luck with uninstalling, I didn't, then...
My Google was listed in Vista's "Programs, and Features" (Add\Remove), yours not.
Oh well...
That may be it - I installed (and uninstalled) on XP SP3.

And if the browser was shown as "My Google," I don't know if it was listed in Add/Remove; I looked for Chrome :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 05:35:33 PM
It was listed as "Google Chrome".
Also, I had some problems during installation. Maybe, it caused uninstall problems.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 03, 2008, 05:43:49 PM
It was listed as "Google Chrome".
Also, I had some problems during installation. Maybe, it caused uninstall problems.
Mine installed without a hitch on XP - I didn't look past "C" to uninstall :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 03, 2008, 10:40:22 PM
The pressure paid off....

The offending chapter has changed to:
http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html (http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html)
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11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

The original one:
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11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 04, 2008, 12:20:40 AM
Better, but 11.2 is no prize :)

Stickin' with FF; and "No," I haven't read their EULA.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 10:14:13 AM
http://aviv.raffon.net/2008/09/03/GoogleMule.aspx

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Google Mule

In real life, when you take two species, a horse and a donkey, and mix them up you get a mule. In the browsers world, when you take a horse (Firefox/IE) and a donkey (Safari) and mix them up, you get – Google Chrome.
The new browser from Google tries to get the best from other browsers, but instead (well, at least in the current beta version), it seems to be doing quite the opposite.

The current beta uses an old version of WebKit - 525.13 - which is actually the same WebKit engine used by the old Safari v3.1. The current Safari version is v3.1.2, which fixed several critical issues, including the “blended threat” Carpet Bombing vulnerability. Google even mention that they use Safari v3.1 rendering engine in their own documentation (Thanks Yonatan Grabber for the information!)

On the other hand, Chrome borrowed (and modified) local resource files from the Mozilla project. And also, for some reason, in some cases there is an ActiveX plug-in loaded by Chrome, which might be an evidence of a capability of this browser to execute ActiveX controls.
I really wonder why Google have taken several features from other browsers and mixed them all together. Security wise, it’s very problematic.
They’ll have to track all security vulnerabilities in those features, and fix them in Chrome too. This will probably be only after those vulnerabilities were fixed by the other vendors or were publicly reported. It will put Chrome users at risk for a long time.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 04, 2008, 11:46:41 AM
I knew that Mozilla would not have any "we own all of your data and can use it to direct a googol of advertising bits to you" provisions.

MOZILLA FIREFOX END-USER SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT, here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/eula/firefox-en.html

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 11:59:23 AM
More on Chrome...

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39176/108/

Chrome is a security nightmare, indexes your bank accounts

Los Angeles (CA) – Can a browser’s search function work too well?  After playing around with Google’s brand new Chrome browser, we’ve discovered that its history search box will fetch all types of data - even text from HTTPS-protected financial sites like Washington Mutual and Capital One.  With a few utterly simple keywords like balance, account and Sept., everything from balance information, account numbers and even how much you spent at Costco can be pulled up.

To see all of this in action, just open up Chrome and log in to your favorite financial website.  Like most important sites, it should be protected with HTTPS/SSL encryption and that should be evident in the address bar of the browser.  Do the stuff you would normally do like look at your balances and gawk at your latest transactions and then open up a new tab in Chrome by clicking the “+” symbol.  In the right-hand history search box, enter a few keywords and see what they get you.  Surprised?  I bet you are.  No luck?  Then try something simple like oh Visa, Mastercard, balance and account.  Also try out the names and abbreviations of months like September, Sept and Sep.

If you’re like me, you probably saw account balances and some transaction details, but if you further refine your keywords you’d be able to see a lot more.  We first discovered this “problem” by browsing the forensicfocus.com forums.  “Problem” is in quotes because we’re not sure if this is a true vulnerability or Google Chrome’s search function working as intended – in this case, just too *censored* good.  While playing around with the forensic implications of Chrome, “Jelle” on the forums posted that he and his partner noticed the browser was indexing information from HTTPS sites.

“One interesting finding is that in the regular browsing mode, Chrome creates a search index of the contents of a lot of the pages you visit. This allows you to do keyword searching in your own web history. On some of our tests, we found that content of https pages had been indexed as well, allowing us to retrieve our bank account details using a keyword search,” Jelle posted.

Of course after reading this I just had to give it a try and logged into my Washington Mutual and Capital One credit card accounts.  I looked at my pathetically low bank account balances along with my insanely high outstanding credit card balances.  Then I pulled up a recent list of transactions for the month (*censored* you gas prices) - on many financial websites this information is usually shown on the very first page after logging in.  Then I opened up a new tab and started playing around with keywords.

Thinking like a hacker, my first plan of attack was to enumerate or list the financial services.  After enumeration, I could drill down into the exact accounts and transactions.  By simply typing in Visa, Mastercard, account and the names of popular banks you can find the types of accounts and which institution they belong to.  In my case, Capital and Washington worked just fine.  To get my account balance, I just typed in “balance” and to get transaction information I entered “transaction”.  Typing in “costco” pulled up how much I spent on my last trip.

Is there a way to protect your financial information from being indexed?  Google Chrome does have an incognito mode that promises to not cache anything.  This can be accessed from the file menu in the upper-right corner of the window or by using the keyboard shortcut (Control Shift N).  You can also clear your browser data after surfing to a financial website by going to the tools menu that’s also in the upper-right corner.

It was just yesterday that I wrote about Chrome’s security as being “not bad”, but I personally don’t get a warm and fuzzy feeling if Chrome is indexing all of my financial information.  Search and indexing is what Google is good at and the company has made my life a whole lot easier in many ways, but indexing financial info is crossing the line.

On the programming level, I can’t really blame Google’s developers though because HTTPS was never meant to provide any protection anyways on the desktop itself.  The protection was developed to protect traffic as it travelled through the “Wild West” Internet.  But while this distinction is clear to most of our readers – the regular person probably believes HTTPS/SSL traffic is and should be protected on the desktop.

So is this all a big deal?  Well anyone who wants to search your financial information would need local access to your machine and if a person is sitting at your computer, you have a lot more things to worry about than him/her using Chrome’s history search.  Conceivably a hacker could develop an app to pull the cache and index files off your computer and examine them later on another machine – these files reside in the “C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default” folder.

But on a simpler level, if ALL of the sites I visit are being keyworded and indexed locally, then how do I know that this information will stay local.  I guess that depends on how much you trust Google.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 04, 2008, 12:11:25 PM
WOW - another great find, Broni! I feel dirty :o What do you think about using Boot and Nuke on the drive that had Chrome on it then pulling the drive and melting it down in a blast furnace then grinding it up into nano sized pieces and sprinkling it into the ocean.

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 12:19:06 PM
I'm getting ready....

(http://www.spokane.wsu.edu/academic/engineering/Rumsey/Mortz/dynamite.jpg)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 04, 2008, 12:22:54 PM
I'm getting ready....

(http://www.spokane.wsu.edu/academic/engineering/Rumsey/Mortz/dynamite.jpg)
When you're done with that, can I borrow it?!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 12:42:05 PM
I can send you another pack. Free shipping....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
Man even with the revision I'd agree using Google Chrome makes me feel as if I have no privacy. Sticking with FF.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 04, 2008, 04:44:08 PM
Man even with the revision I'd agree using Google Chrome makes me feel as if I have no privacy. Sticking with FF.
Too late - Google already emailed me your bank data :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 04:49:07 PM
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Too late - Google already emailed me your bank data
Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 04:51:56 PM
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Too late - Google already emailed me your bank data
Hahahaha!!

Heh, thankfully I'd never log into a bank site using a beta program. ;)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
But your girlfriend did, while you were gone....hahahaha
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 04:55:16 PM
But your girlfriend did, while you were gone....hahahaha
Ahh crap foiled again. ;)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 04:55:28 PM
Chrome Strong Against Firefox And Safari, IE Untouched

Even though Google's Chrome has been publicly available for less than a week, its Web browser market share has already reached over 1 percent.

According to reports from Market Share and Stat Counter, the new Web browser from Google is making inroads into relatively well established browser turf. As of 2 p.m. EDT, Market Share reports that Chrome usage was at 1.03 percent, down from its high watermark of 1.57 percent set at 4 a.m. EDT on Thursday morning. Stat Counter notes that the global market share for Chrome is at 1.15 percent on September 4.

Link (http://www.crn.com/software/210500053)

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
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down from its high watermark of 1.57 percent set at 4 a.m. EDT on Thursday morning
That's when I posted about security issues here!! Must be some coincidence  ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
Anyway, I think, it's all BS. You can't estimate market share of 1 week old browser.
How do they get those results?
I assume, they have some benchmarking web sites, which report, what type of browser was used to access those sites.
So, let's say, I installed Chrome, and in order to try it, I did access Google web site. Most likely, I was subtracted from Firefox users list, and added to Chrome users. FF got "-1", and Chrome got "+1".
BS.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 05:34:39 PM
Yeah that's true Broni I'd agree with that, giving stats for a browser that's been running for less than a week is pretty bias. After a month if the trend continues then that'd seem more fair..
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 04, 2008, 05:34:52 PM
Serious Security Flaw in Google Chrome
Google Chrome has quickly become one of our favorite browsers here at RWW, but as Ryan Narraine, a security evangelist at Kaspersky Lab, reports, Chrome has also inherited a potentially serious security flaw from the old version of WebKit it is based on. An attacker could easily trick users into launching an executable Java file by combining a flaw in WebKit with a known Java bug and some smart social engineering.

Link (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/security_flaw_in_google_chrome.php)

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 04, 2008, 05:37:21 PM
Better, and better....
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 05, 2008, 12:38:29 PM
google chrome is still in beta. when it's out of beta, i'm sure it'll be more usable.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 12:48:27 PM
google chrome is still in beta. when it's out of beta, i'm sure it'll be more usable.
Usability isn't the issue; by the time it's out of Beta, it ought to be able to index your hard drive, phone the police and pay your bail from my bank account. That's the problem :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 12:59:36 PM
Eh, at least I don't have to worry about bills. I already have all info about Nathan's bank account, so I'm all set :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 04:56:21 PM
Eh, at least I don't have to worry about bills. I already have all info about Nathan's bank account, so I'm all set :)
I've got it set up for automatic bill pay!

Thanks, Google :-*
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
Hey, wait a sec, he may not have enough money to pay mine, and YOUR bills...LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
Chrome emailed me first >:(
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 05:15:32 PM
...but you got *censored* for free....
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 05:25:44 PM
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n469/drmsucks/dynamite.jpg)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
...you too....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: !~*:.Pink Floyd.:*~! on September 05, 2008, 07:03:19 PM
hey guys I uninstalled it today I just didnt like it....
I hope they make a theme for firefox though.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 07:07:36 PM
hey guys I uninstalled it today I just didnt like it....
I hope they make a theme for firefox though.
Too late...it already knows where you live :(
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 07:14:35 PM
...and I just transferred all money from your parents bank account to mine :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 07:16:50 PM
Ooooooo, Chrome just emailed me nice pictures from drmsucks BEDROOM.....hmmmmm
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 05, 2008, 11:06:08 PM
Hiii Broni...

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n469/drmsucks/peeping_tom.jpg)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 05, 2008, 11:16:54 PM
Hello...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2560484213_26de96385b.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 06, 2008, 05:13:36 AM
HA! For those who haven't uninstalled Google Chrome yet, a fun Easter Egg for you. In the URL bar type: about:internets press enter and enjoy. :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 05:34:41 AM
Hmmm....I didn't get anything.....
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 05:35:55 AM
Oh right:
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For those who haven't uninstalled Google Chrome yet


I tried about:internets in Chrome and I got the Windows Pipe Screensaver. :P
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 09:41:51 AM
At least, we know, whose bank account we can still access....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 09:42:49 AM
I only use it for quick-searching when Firefox is off.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 10:03:29 AM
That was enough to get your exact address. Expect a postcard from me :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 10:08:33 AM
Suddenly, I don't like using Chrome anymore.....

It's safe to leave it on the computer, right?  :-\
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: qinghao on September 06, 2008, 10:19:58 AM
It's really more rapid than IE  to open up this forum!
so ,,I will use it from now on,at least when I visit this forum.
I just found that there is "Spell check" integrated in this browser,
that's very good.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 06, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
Suddenly, I don't like using Chrome anymore.....

It's safe to leave it on the computer, right?  :-\
Sure, just run your hard drive through here:

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n469/drmsucks/blastfurnace.gif)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 10:29:18 AM
Lol, I don't wanna melt my computer in a blast furnace just yet...

Seriously though, if I don't run it, I'm safe right?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 10:33:35 AM
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Sure, just run your hard drive through here
LOOOOL

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Seriously though, if I don't run it, I'm safe right?
Sure....

oooooo.....I just got your school address
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 10:35:13 AM
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It's really more rapid than IE  to open up this forum!
It's even more rapid with revealing your bank account access to me :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 06, 2008, 10:44:09 AM
Lol, I don't wanna melt my computer in a blast furnace just yet...

No, no - just the hard drive :)

Seriously though, if I don't run it, I'm safe right?

a) I don't know - when I used it, my system had hard drive activity and internet activity that I couldn't explain (this activity is gone now that Chrome is uninstalled).

b) Joking aside, I doubt that Chrome will collect data about you unless it is being used - but, it is Google. I'm not a Google hater but their business is knowing all, about everything, and profiting from it. None of this is "bad" but "everything" includes all data about you... and (especially) Broni.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 10:45:39 AM
Phew.....thanks for giving me some assurance Drmsucks.

I will look into it in the morning though.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 10:58:30 AM
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when I used it, my system had hard drive activity and internet activity that I couldn't explain
I can. How many bank accounts do you have? Lot of transactions? :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 06, 2008, 11:03:42 AM
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when I used it, my system had hard drive activity and internet activity that I couldn't explain
I can. How many bank accounts do you have? Lot of transactions? :)

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n469/drmsucks/CatGun.gif)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 06, 2008, 11:07:24 AM
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when I used it, my system had hard drive activity and internet activity that I couldn't explain
I can. How many bank accounts do you have? Lot of transactions? :)

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n469/drmsucks/CatGun.gif)

Hah!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 11:14:20 AM
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4126949.jpg)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 06, 2008, 11:22:20 AM
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4126949.jpg)
LOL!!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 06, 2008, 12:37:14 PM
Interesting article about Google here: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=5727509&page=1

FTA: And that's only part of the story: An earlier reviewer of Chrome, Andrew Cheung of TGDaily, has noted that the browser almost seems to work "too well." For example, Cheung found that with a few keystrokes, Chrome will go into an online banking site and find account numbers, balances and transaction activity. Cheung suggests that it is a security flaw in the product. I'm not so sure.

Microsoft only wanted all of our money. Increasingly, it seems that Google wants all of our data. In running away from the evil empire, have we now instead rushed into the arms of Big Brother?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 06, 2008, 07:15:09 PM
Interesting article about Google here: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=5727509&page=1

FTA: And that's only part of the story: An earlier reviewer of Chrome, Andrew Cheung of TGDaily, has noted that the browser almost seems to work "too well." For example, Cheung found that with a few keystrokes, Chrome will go into an online banking site and find account numbers, balances and transaction activity. Cheung suggests that it is a security flaw in the product. I'm not so sure.

Microsoft only wanted all of our money. Increasingly, it seems that Google wants all of our data. In running away from the evil empire, have we now instead rushed into the arms of Big Brother?

you forgot *ominous sound* at the end.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 07, 2008, 12:51:20 PM
There is more to that SOB.
I searched registry, and I found several leftovers...
This post may explain it better:
http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/76675-those-interested-google-chrome.html#post415580

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When you install Chrome it also installs a GoogleUpdater program. There is no indication in the "Add/Remove" programs that it is there. If you check in the task manager and it is running, even after you uninstall Chrome then it is still there. It also puts itself in the Windows/Prefetch so it might reinstall itself after you delete it. GoogleUpdater also sets itself up in the Mozilla entries in the registry so that when you uninstall Chrome it continues to trace you when you use Mozilla. I used a couple of "Fully Uninstall Any Program" programs after I uninstalled Chrome and they found nothing and deleted nothing concerning GoogleUpdater. I manually went around and uninstalled everything and deleted references in the registry so I think I got it all.

I also use Acronis True Image and run a complete disk backup on the 1st, 10th, and 20th of each month. I'm running some checks and I just might go back to one of those and just copy over all the data folders, etc. But, for now, I think i got it all.

If you uninstalled Chrome and ran some uninstaller programs then all that other stuff from the Chrome install is probably still there and tracking you and your accounts.

 

Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 07, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
BTW, it's pretty evasive, when you search registry, so if you do, search for "Chrome", but make sure, you don't delete "chrome" entries from other programs.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 07, 2008, 01:07:01 PM
For those interested, I found 20 registry entries...

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4128745.jpg)

Now, I'm gonna check for those file locations on my computer.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 07, 2008, 07:47:39 PM
Darn...Hey Carbon, I deleted your bank account data by mistake - can you email it to me?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Soviet_Genius on September 07, 2008, 09:27:27 PM
Ok how do you get rid of this thing completely? No blast furnace stuff, I can't afford a new hard drive.  ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 07, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
What is the exact problem?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 08, 2008, 12:58:55 AM
Darn...Hey Carbon, I deleted your bank account data by mistake - can you email it to me?

Sure thing, let me find it. :P
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 08, 2008, 09:16:35 AM
Worry you not. I got it right here:
006284-260491, pass: oxygen
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 08, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
try chromium, the open source version of google chrome and apparently the latest version has some chrome bugs fixed.
http://code.google.com/chromium/
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 08, 2008, 11:06:05 AM
try chromium, the open source version of google chrome and apparently the latest version has some chrome bugs fixed.
http://code.google.com/chromium/

Thanks...but I'll wait until Firefox incorporates the good stuff ;)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 08, 2008, 11:09:08 AM
try chromium, the open source version of google chrome and apparently the latest version has some chrome bugs fixed.
http://code.google.com/chromium/

Thanks...but I'll wait until Firefox incorporates the good stuff ;)

no problem! To me, I'd think if Chromium became  a good browser and had a more extensive feature set than it does now, it would rival Firefox because both are open source browsers.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 08, 2008, 11:13:56 AM
Surely, they started from the wrong foot.
Personally, I would have a hard time to try any program like this again.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Soviet_Genius on September 08, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
What is the exact problem?
Worry you not. I got it right here:
006284-260491, pass: oxygen
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 11, 2008, 11:02:53 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/09/google_chrome_update/

Google has belatedly released details of a security update to its newly released Chrome browser, days after it actually pushed out the patch.

The update was published on Friday and users of Chrome were automatically updated, but details of the vulnerabilities fixed and performance tweaks only emerged on Monday, via a mailing list posting and a new Google Chrome blog.

Mark Larson, a Google Chrome program manager, writes that Google Chrome Beta version 0.2.149.29 addresses two critical vulnerabilities, a small number of lesser flaws and a variety of performance tweaks.

The first of the two critical bug fixes addresses a buffer overflow bug in handling long filenames, while the second deals with a vulnerability in handling link targets. Both the flaws create a means for hackers to inject hostile code into vulnerable systems, hence their critical rating. The release also fixes a lesser browser crashing bug involved in parsing URLs ending with ":%".

Google has also responded to its exposure to the infamous Safari carpet-bombing flaw by ensuring that desktop is not the default directory for downloads. "This mitigates the risk of malicious cluttering of the desktop with unwanted downloads, which can lead to executing unwanted files," it explains.

Hmm. This is, at best, only a partial workaround, and Google would do far better to address the underlying flaw.

The update also includes a number of performance and stability tweaks including a JavaScript problem involving Facebook, flaws in search suggestions on various sites, and a performance issue involving the Safe Browsing mode.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 14, 2008, 03:32:10 PM
is chromium better than google chrome? Chromium comes out with 10 or so nightly builds daily so I heard.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 04:17:08 PM
Yeah, it's better. Install it, and on a top of knowing your bank account info, we'll know more about you :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 14, 2008, 06:27:22 PM
Wow, nice savings account, mcxeb52!

Love, Google :)   
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
drmsucks
Remember? I shared other accounts with you, so I hope, you're gonna give me an access to mcxeb52's account, if I won't receive any email from Google :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 14, 2008, 07:18:34 PM
drmsucks
Remember? I shared other accounts with you, so I hope, you're gonna give me an access to mcxeb52's account, if I won't receive any email from Google :)
You were copied on the Google email; routing number and account number - but, I got it first :D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
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You were copied on the Google email
In English, please....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 14, 2008, 09:23:49 PM
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You were copied on the Google email
In English, please....LOL
Wy byliście skopiowani w poczcie elektronowej
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
WOW!
Excellent spelling....where from?
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 14, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
WOW!
Excellent spelling....where from?
Glad the spelling was ok - what did it say? LOL!!

http://www.poltran.com/
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 15, 2008, 12:25:08 AM
You were copied in email.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 15, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
You were copied in email.
Oddly enough, that's what I inputted :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: kpac on September 15, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Oddly enough, that's what I inputted :)

Gratulacje! ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 15, 2008, 03:57:49 PM
Are we totally switching to Polish forum?
Hey, Nathan, it's time to start learning another language....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 15, 2008, 11:14:33 PM
Ohh man but I don't want to. Had a hard enough time attempting to learn Spanish. I'd imagine Polish is harder.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 15, 2008, 11:20:02 PM
OK, OK :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 15, 2008, 11:22:28 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: mcxeb52! on September 15, 2008, 11:50:48 PM
drmsucks
Remember? I shared other accounts with you, so I hope, you're gonna give me an access to mcxeb52's account, if I won't receive any email from Google :)

*censored*? Why should you have access to my account?  ;D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 16, 2008, 12:11:00 AM
*censored*? Why should you have access to my account?  ;D

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Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Siscorskiy on September 25, 2008, 05:42:11 PM
I treid the beta... DID not like the features all though it seems  fast.

boched install too :D
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 25, 2008, 05:52:52 PM
Kirk
We got one more bank account opened to our needs :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 25, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
Kirk
We got one more bank account opened to our needs :)

Yep...

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Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 25, 2008, 09:21:49 PM
I love it. Pretty soon, I can retire :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: cohen on September 27, 2008, 09:57:52 PM
I think google chrome is good, i love it, it is very nice and easy :) would highly recommend it to anyone.

I like firefox because of the plug ins, but chrome is nice and fast, which is what i like :)
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: patio on September 27, 2008, 09:59:12 PM
Another bank account...
I love it.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 27, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
Hey drmsucks, now patio wants a chunk....LOL
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 27, 2008, 10:11:56 PM
Hmmmmm.....I seem to have lost $5000........ BRONI!!!!
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on September 27, 2008, 10:13:43 PM
Too late...all spent :)
drmsucks wanted a new computer, and I needed some dough, too.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: drmsucks on September 27, 2008, 10:14:50 PM
Hey drmsucks, now patio wants a chunk....LOL

Yeah...well he can just
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Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dead_reckon on September 29, 2008, 01:01:01 PM
Told you Google was up to no good with this one. I knew it was a further attempt to add more data too there bottomless cyber pit of data they seem to have accumulated over the years. Stupid EULA's, they'll be the death of us some day.
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By installing said software, you agree to donate all vital organs and your soul to {insert company here}
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 30, 2008, 01:10:23 PM
Actually, Microsofts EULA's have been invalidated in several locations around the world- don't know about other companies.

The problem was the disclaimer that "By opening this package, you agree to the terms in the EULA" and yet the EULA was IN the package.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Dead_reckon on September 30, 2008, 07:36:15 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean. Its just the companies trying to control there product and figure out how and why people are using it, what there using it for, and so on. I believe that to be an invasion of privacy to the fullest extent though, I won't support any product that will claim to take ownership of anything you do in/with it.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: pcgeek on October 15, 2008, 02:21:12 AM
Do you guys have any info for me with regard to the security vulnerabilities in chrome? I have been reading stuff and learning loads. It is intresting this whole browser is pretty funky.
Title: Re: Google browser to compete with Microsoft and Firefox
Post by: Broni on October 15, 2008, 10:25:31 AM
Read a whole thread, and you'll know.