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Title: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 28, 2008, 05:38:18 PM
Can a computer (laptop) that is running at a high temperature get slow?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on June 28, 2008, 07:34:58 PM
I can't tell you the specifics but I know by experience (and by other members who come to the forums with problems with cooling) that it does slow the computer down in some ways.
I remember once I was playing Halo online with my friends and the game started to run in 'slow motion' and I realized because it was so hot.
That happened last month and since I got a cooling pad, it never happened again.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: quaxo on June 29, 2008, 12:48:22 AM
Do you know specifically how hot the laptop is getting? Does it always run slow or only after it's been on for a while and has had a chance to heat up?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 01:02:23 AM
It's getting as hot as:
Core 0: between 74C and 77C
Core 1: between 1.74C and 1.77C

Usually gets hot (that hot) as soon as :20  to :30 minutes and stay that hot for as long as it's on.

When it gets slow is because I have a few programs open at the same time. Usually when I have a game I'm playing lately called "Wonderland Online", where I have 4 characters (4 windows of the game's program) and I play them all at the same time.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 01:07:58 AM
if your CPU is reaching 74 - 77 C then you do have heat problems.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: quaxo on June 29, 2008, 01:08:26 AM
77C is a bit high. What is the make and model of this laptop? Can you tell if the internal fan is still running? It might have died and 77C is really pushing it. If the fan is working, it shouldn't be getting that hot. Then again, the fan might just need to be cleaned. You might also consider getting a nice cooling pad for it.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 01:12:49 AM
About the fan:
It's clean and I even bought a Cooling Pad for my computer.

About the laptop itself:
Maker: Acer
Model: Aspire 5610

Note: When I just turn the computer on, and no program is been use it goes to Core 0: 54C and Core 1: 1.54C. As soon as I start open programs, it's temperature starts to go up.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 01:28:41 AM
I am interested to know why:

Core 0 temperature is expressed as whole degrees only (e.g. 77)

-- whereas --

Core 1 temp is expressed with 2 places of decimals (e.g. 1.74) which are always the same figures as the Core 0 temp in degrees.

Suggest that the core 1 temp is being misread either by software or the user. One core temp (77 C) that would melt plastic (nearly) and one that would feel freezing (that's what 1.77 degrees C is - COLD) do not make sense.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 01:32:50 AM
Note: I was suggested by "Carbon Dudeoxide" to use the program SpeedFan and that's the information that program give me about my computer's temperature.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 01:43:22 AM
A moment's thought would surely tell you that 2 cores in the same chip with a temperature difference of 75 degrees C is impossible?

I have been using Speedfan for over 3 years on my little Shuttle XPC and it needed a little bit of setting up before its readings were displayed properly. It is written and maintained by one person and sometimes it shows. You could get a second opinion with CPUID Hwmonitor

http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php

I use Hwmonitor and Speedfan together.



Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Trafalgar on June 29, 2008, 01:53:23 AM
74C is way too high.

However, what different before and after using cooling pad? Maybe the pad you're using didn't blow the right spot?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 02:07:43 AM
The Cooling Pad I'm using is "Belkin Laptop Cooling Pad" (http://www.officemax.com/omax/catalog/sku.jsp?skuId=21510367&searchString=cooling+pad&displayBreadCrumb=null&_requestid=1728759 (http://www.officemax.com/omax/catalog/sku.jsp?skuId=21510367&searchString=cooling+pad&displayBreadCrumb=null&_requestid=1728759)) and blow air below, but the fan on my laptop (http://www.microcenter.com/image.phtml?id=0261505&sku=724476 (http://www.microcenter.com/image.phtml?id=0261505&sku=724476)) is on the left back of the laptop. I also have a regular standing fan (http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/Cross_Base_Standing_Fan_849.jpg (http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/Cross_Base_Standing_Fan_849.jpg)), blowing air directly to the laptop's fan. Nothing seem to help it cool down.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 02:17:14 AM
Quote
but the fan on my laptop (http://www.microcenter.com/image.phtml?id=0261505&sku=724476) is on the left back of the laptop.

Do Speedfan or HWinfo give rpm figures?

Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 02:32:11 AM
Question:
How do I know if my computer is 32-bit or 64-bit?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 02:48:35 AM
Question:
How do I know if my computer is 32-bit or 64-bit?

Look it up on Google.  ::)

Acer Inspire 5610: CPU Intel 2250: data width 32 bit
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 03:00:38 AM
Thanks for looking that (the 32-bit/64-bit thing) Dias de verano.

The information I get from the Hwmonitor is:

- Ibelith
  - ACPI
    - Temperatures
      - TZ00                          77C (170F)   75C (166F)   80C (175F)
      - TZ01                          77C (170F)   75C (166F)   80C (175F)
  - Intel Core Duo T2500
    - Temperatures
      - Core#0                      74C (165F)   73C (163F)   77C (170F)
      - Core#1                      74C (165F)   73C (163F)   79C (174F)
  - Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00
    - Temperatures
      - HDD                           46C (114F)   46C (114F)   48C (118F)
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 03:45:31 AM
HWinfo is showing the temperatures from 2 different sensors., ACPI and CPU internal diode. In each case, they are, from left to right,

current temperature -- lowest temperature seen this session -- highest temperature seen this session

Even the lower set of readings shows you are hitting 80 C. This is not good! Thermal throttling (the cpu slowing down to protect itself from damage) starts at 71 C for your model cpu. So you are running in throttled mode a lot of the time. Your cooling needs attention. Badly. Listen to this advice. You don't ever want it to go over 80!!!!!

I believe you should take the laptop to a repair shop and get the fan checked out.

I have asked once before for a fan speed (rpm) figure. I now do so again.



Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:00:25 AM
What is RPM?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 04:06:03 AM
What is RPM?

Rotational speed is measured in Revolutions Per Minute.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p29/badoit/fan-rpm.jpg)
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: quaxo on June 29, 2008, 04:09:19 AM
Your cooling needs attention. Badly. Listen to this advice. You don't ever want it to go over 80!!!!!

I believe you should take the laptop to a repair shop and get the fan checked out.

I second this advice. You've got serious cooling problems with that. Even your idle temp is beyond what your temp should be when running games. If you run too hot for too long, you risk damaging the computer (particularly the CPU).
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:10:34 AM
There was no RPM on the information that the program gave me.... All that I gave you was all that the program gave me. Letter by letter.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 04:11:50 AM
Can you see the "Fans" section on the screen capture I posted? Is it absent when you run HWinfo?

Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:13:29 AM
Yes, it is absent.
No Fan section at all.



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Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 04:19:48 AM
Off topic, I know, but Ibelith is a pretty name.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:22:06 AM
Thanks for the compliment.  ;D
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 04:32:09 AM
So to summarize:

Question:

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Can high temperatures make a computer slow?

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Yes!

Question:

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Is my computer running too hot?

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Yes!

Question:

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Is that why it is running slow?

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Very likely.

Question:

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Should I do something about it?

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Yes!

Question:

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What?

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Get it fixed either under warranty if that has not expired, or else by taking it to a repair place.

Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:35:38 AM
Why you think the Fan Section is not appearing on the HWinfo?

Note: I sure will work on getting it fix on this week.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 04:39:17 AM
Maybe your chipset / motherboard is not supported by hwinfo yet.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 04:55:17 AM
Note:
Just to give the status now that I'm almost turning my computer off.

I closed all, except:
1. SpeedFan
2. HWinfo
3. The browser

The new information I get from the Hwmonitor is:

- Ibelith
  - ACPI
    - Temperatures
      - TZ00                          57C (134F)   57C (134F)   60C (139F)
      - TZ01                          57C (134F)   57C (134F)   60C (139F)
  - Intel Core Duo T2500
    - Temperatures
      - Core#0                      52C (125F)   50C (121F)   56C (132F)
      - Core#1                      50C (121F)   50C (121F)   56C (132F)
  - Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00
    - Temperatures
      - HDD                           49C (120F)   48C (118F)   49C (120F)

Note part II:
Before, if I put my hand in front of the fan, it would come out fire.
Now, comes a cool breeze.

I think maybe I've too much information on this computer and need to get it less crowd.

Memory:
Total - 69.7 GB
Free  - 10.8 GB

Having too much files and programs (that I downloaded, not all are install or been use) can also overheat the computer?
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: Dias de verano on June 29, 2008, 05:16:29 AM
Overheating is not caused by having too many programs or files installed. It is caused by making the processor do too much work like running that game you mentioned.

There may be cooling settings that you can alter to make the fan run faster when the CPU temperature climbs. You should consult your Acer user's guide book.
Title: Re: Can high temperatures make a computer slow?
Post by: IbelithLP on June 29, 2008, 05:19:19 AM
Ok, thank you, thank you, thank you for the big help and patience.
I'll be gone for now, but see you all later.