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Other => Other => Off topic => Topic started by: evilfantasy on September 09, 2008, 11:05:28 PM

Title: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: evilfantasy on September 09, 2008, 11:05:28 PM
I think it's a trick.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/69l3dg.jpg)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: T-Rex on September 09, 2008, 11:23:51 PM
Was just about to post something on this .

This is what people think will happen :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM

Also this :

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080909-black-hole.html


Life as we know it just might all come to an end in a few hours. I'm not sure how many of you have been following this, but the Large Hadron Collider will fire up in a few hours. There are a few scientists who believe these experiments might trigger a black hole, which will eventually swallow planet Earth and eventually our entire solar system, erasing any evidence that we were ever here. Here's the scary part: the scientists who are pretty confident that a scenario like this will not happen admit that in theory, there is an outside chance that this could happen. I personally feel that if we're going to attempt something like this all scientists should all be 100% sure that there is a 0% possibility that a black hole can be spawned before trying something like this, but that's just me... lol. On the other hand, the data that comes from these experiments can increase our knowledge of everything exponentially.

Physicists across the globe are on the edges of their seats, but not because they're worried about a Franco-Swiss black hole.

In recreating the conditions present a trillionth of a second after the big bang, the collider could reveal the nature of dark matter, thought to provide structure throughout the universe, scientists say. The machine could also unmask a theoretical but as yet unseen particle, called Higgs boson—or the "God particle"—that is believed to give other particles their mass.

There's also a very, very remote chance that the process will spawn black holes—any one of which could assume an odd orbit within Earth, devouring microscopic chunks of matter until the entire planet is gone, physicists say.

This and other harrowing—and equally unlikely—scenarios prompted a couple of independent scientists to sue this past spring to stop the atom smasher. So far they haven't succeeded, and the vast majority of the world's physicists are on board with the project.


Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 03:47:42 AM
I have a couple of good links myself.

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSL846768920080910
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/09/09/cern-launches-the-big-bang-tomorrow/
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2008/09/200891075946173923.html
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/big-bang-machine-switched-on-$1239966.htm (http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/big-bang-machine-switched-on-$1239966.htm)
http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html

I think I'll move this to the Other Section seeing as there isn't a topic about this yet.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 04:13:25 AM
Heh, check this out:

(http://www.fileupyours.com/files/191176/lhc.gif)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 10, 2008, 04:23:07 AM
Heh, nice pictures evil and Carbon.  ;D I'll see you all after this happens since I'm sure they know what they're doing and it's not going to be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 04:31:18 AM
Aww man, back to Off Topic?

Oh well. :P
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 04:34:55 AM
Successful Test:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5nGPtmoUVIJDgehVJ_snD6vDA6gD933PMQG0
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 10, 2008, 05:20:15 AM
Well that's good to hear and see the world didn't come to and end like some people seemed to think was going to happen.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: T-Rex on September 10, 2008, 05:41:56 AM
So they say  :-\
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: fireballs on September 10, 2008, 07:08:50 AM
So they say  :-\

lol it might have come to an end... we just haven't noticed yet?!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: T-Rex on September 10, 2008, 08:16:50 AM
Exactly  ;D
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 09:00:16 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7604293.stm

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Eventually, two proton beams will be steered in opposite directions around the LHC at close to the speed of light, completing about 11,000 laps each second.

One lap is 27km. The beam of protons travel around the ring 11,000 times every second.....100m underground........in circles.....


Phew! That's fast!
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 10, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
Interesting....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9XotvwgnaY
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: typhoeus on September 10, 2008, 09:09:19 AM
While I don't believe in the Big Bang, this could provide some interesting discoveries.  I just don't believe that a universe this complex came from atoms colliding.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 10, 2008, 11:58:23 PM
Cool YouTube video about it. Would like to see a more up-to-date video though.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 11, 2008, 12:18:23 AM
Check out the live cam of the Hadron COllider event today. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYkMhQ9gf8

Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 11, 2008, 04:12:16 AM
Check out the live cam of the Hadron COllider event today. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYkMhQ9gf8



Same thing as this (my friend just sent it to me)

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

;D
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 11, 2008, 06:34:06 AM
Picture of the Wikipedia page, that someone changed on the Hadron Collider.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26810211@N06/2846166313/sizes/o/

Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 11, 2008, 07:44:00 AM
I still don't see why.

We did a lesson on the LHC in Physics class today and our teacher explained it very well.

He also explained that a black hole created by the experiment will be too small and too weak to do anything.
If I remember, the black hole would have the mass of 0.000000000000000000000000001 grams.
(or something slightly bigger....too tired to remember....)
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 11, 2008, 07:58:50 AM
Well even though I disagree taking the argument of the people who believe this could be the end of the world I could see how one could think that with our lack of knowledge on black holes who's to say that even the smallest black hole cannot grow in size?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 11, 2008, 08:05:49 AM
Yeah, the theory is that it will start to suck in matter and grow in size.

However, if Steven Hawking's other theory is correct, Black Holes emit radiation, thus causing it to shrink.

It is also believed it will only last a microsecond before disappearing.

Argh Confusing!  :-X

I have another theory of my own.
If the Big Bang is recreated in the experiment, will we make another universe?
I think it is a possibility, but not a universe that will dismantle and replace ours, but a micro-universe.
In that microsecond before that universe disappears, it could have been billions and billions of years for the min-universe.
For all we know, our universe could be in a lab and the scientists have created this experiment and we are the product of that 'big bang'.
After that microsecond is up, the universe will collapse on itself and disappear or something.
If I still don't make sense, imagine 1 milisecond for us equals a billion years for the universe in the experiment.
One micrometer for us could be millions of lightyears for them.
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: typhoeus on September 11, 2008, 08:37:32 AM
Now all you have to do is get some low-budget film studio to produce it!  Good luck!  I'll be watching for it.  Need actors?
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 11, 2008, 08:39:10 AM
LOL
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on September 12, 2008, 06:51:55 AM
Extremely well done video that explains how it all works. Very impressive and worth watching the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQNpucos9wc
Title: Re: Large Hadron Collider due to be switched on at 5pm AEST
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 12, 2008, 06:59:03 AM
Extremely well done video that explains how it all works. Very impressive and worth watching the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQNpucos9wc

NICE