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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows XP => Topic started by: Nubhubbins on July 27, 2008, 03:24:18 PM

Title: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 27, 2008, 03:24:18 PM
So I have an old Compaq Presario with Windows 98 loaded on it.   I am trying to reformat the HD and put windows XP on it, but I am having trouble. I dont know all of the little specifications on it, but it does meet the requirements for XP.

Heres what I'm doing.

I put in the XP disk, and restart the computer.  It boots from the disk and the setup screen initiates.  It starts running through a bunch of processes, then goes to "Setup is starting Windows". This is where it get hung up.

I tried pressing f5 when it asks about a "Third Party HAL...something about a RAID"  yada yada, and then selecting the "standard PC with...i486" option. The same problem exists.

Any clues or ideas to get around this?  If you need more information just let me know.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: caHarkness on July 28, 2008, 12:01:25 AM
Download a bootdisk from www.Bootdisk.com,
(Preferably a Windows ME bootdisk), and use the
program to format a floppy.. (The program autom-
atically formats the floppy and makes a bootdisk).

Boot up the Compaq Presario with the floppy you've
just made.. (With the Windows ME bootdisk creator).
The computer should boot into MS-DOS mode from
there.

Type in the command prompt:
A:\fdisk.exe

From there, select the "Delete partitions"
menu option.. (It should be 3.) Remove any
current partitions.. MS-DOS, HFPS, NTFS, Non-DOS
etc.

Restart the computer booting from the CD-ROM
and follow the onscreen instructions..

I highly doubt a Notebook, Laptop uses SCSI
and RAID features.. so do not press F5/F6.
And one thing to make sure, is that the CD-ROM
drive is not damaged, nor is the CD-ROM damaged.

Hope that helped.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 08:47:45 AM
Well, I actually was talking to someone about this last night who gave similar advice.  I didnt have a floppy drive but I was able to boot up in DOS mode and do the fdisk thing anyway.

I am pretty sure I took everything out (partition-wise), as now when I boot it up with no CD is says that there is "No operating system" on the computer.  However, I still cannot get the loading software to get past "Starting up windows".

I have tried this with a windows xp CD and a windows 2000 CD.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: squall_01 on July 28, 2008, 10:53:55 AM
I would find out what brand of harddrive it uses an download an formater for it then run xp. 
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
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I would find out what brand of harddrive it uses an download an formater for it then run xp.

Ok, well I am open to try anything.

First, I cannot boot my computer up all the way anymore, since I removed the partitions.
So, how would I go about downloading a formatter and using it on this laptop?

Second, how can I figure out what harddrive I use if I cannot boot up? Crack it open and look?


Thanks. 
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: caHarkness on July 28, 2008, 12:33:12 PM
Try this before finding out your hardrive.
One question, does it boot into the BIOS?

If so, booting it from the CD-ROM will have to
work. You can do this by either selecting "Boot
Menu", an option found commonly.. Or you could
change the boot order so the CD-ROM is first.

Hopefully that should work.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 12:50:11 PM
Yes it boots into BIOS, but not into the operating system.  IF i put in a XP or 2000 CD, it will boot into that.

So you are saying I need to find out what hard drive I have (how do I do that), and then download a formatter for that brand onto a CD and boot that disk?
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: patio on July 28, 2008, 01:58:08 PM
Correct.
The DLoadf file will create a bootable CD.
Obviously you will need to DLoad it on another machine.
All HDD manuf. offer these utilities FREE.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 04:06:06 PM
Alright I have the Hitachi hardrive boot CD in my comp, and it booted up. Everything seems to be working fine, but I guess im not sure what to do from here. There is a features tab at the top with some options regarding changes to acoutstic level, power mode, chache settings, etc..
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 04:23:18 PM
Wait, I Dl'd a different program, and now i have the option of erasing the disk. I tried doing this but it says I am trying to test a non HGST HDD, and the program is only designed to work with HGST DD's.

Guess Im still workin on it.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Fed on July 28, 2008, 06:44:35 PM
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Heres what I'm doing.

I put in the XP disk, and restart the computer.  It boots from the disk and the setup screen initiates.  It starts running through a bunch of processes, then goes to "Setup is starting Windows". This is where it get hung up.
Can you describe what happens at this point for us?
Looking at windowsreinstall.com I can't see a screen that says "Setup is starting Windows".
Check it out. http://www.windowsxphome.windowsreinstall.com/installxpcdnewhdd/indexfullpage.htm
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 07:13:50 PM
Alright.

I put in windows XP CD (tried windows 2000 as well) and the computer boots from the CD.

A blue screen appears with "Windows Setup" at the top.   On the bottom I can see the program installing a bunch of stuff.  It goes through this process for about 3-5min, and then at the bottom it says "Setup is starting Windows". 

This is where it just sits there.  I no longer hear the CD-ROM drive running, and nothing happens.  Ihave left it for several hours like that with no change.  I have run the program dozens of times.

I have tried changing BIOS confiurations. No good.
I have deleted the partitions with fdisk. No good.
I have tried wiping the HD with Darik's Boot & Nuke. No good.
I have tried erasing HD with a Hitachi HD boot disk. No good.
 
I am at a loss.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Fed on July 28, 2008, 07:22:52 PM
Sorry I just added an edit to my previous post while you were posting, can you tell us at what point it stops?
Perhaps your computer doesn't support shutdown via the operating system, did you try rebooting it at that 'freeze' point?
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 28, 2008, 10:50:54 PM
It freezes right between the "Setup now prepares your computer for install" (second picture) and "From this menu press ENTER to begin the install" (third pic).

After the second pic, a bunch of processes start flipping through on that bottom bar, and then it reads "Setup is starting Windows" on the same white bar at the bottom.

At this point, nothing works on my keyboard, so I have to hold down the power button to shut down and start again.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Fed on July 28, 2008, 11:37:40 PM
So you get to the 3rd screen right?
You push enter and nothing happens right?
(Do you give it some time to respond)
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: squall_01 on July 29, 2008, 02:21:04 AM
If you havent tried finding out what drive it is at this point I would.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Nubhubbins on July 29, 2008, 05:47:34 AM
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So you get to the 3rd screen right?

No, it never makes it to the third screen.  The screen it freezes on is not on that website, but if it were it would be between screen 2 and 3.

HERE (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q217073/) is the microsoft help page for this problem, which so far has not helped me.

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If you havent tried finding out what drive it is at this point I would.

I found out it was a Hitachi HDD and I have (to my knowledge) cleaned it out. This has not solved my problem, unless I am missing something here.  I used a Hitachi boot CD thing from their manufacturer (Drive Fitness Tool (http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm)), and the "erase disk" feature did not work because it said I had a "Non HGST" hard drive ( dont know what that means). So I used Darik's Boot & Nuke to erase it all, but the original problem is still there.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Fed on July 29, 2008, 05:09:40 PM
Out of interest have you tried putting win98 back on it?
Remember you would have to format with a boot disk first.
The windows help page you found seems to address the problem so you should work through that as much as you can including the link to specifying other HALs.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Iamthegame_314 on July 30, 2008, 07:22:04 AM
Can you help me out on the same thing? I have a gateway and i did the system restore last night and the restore seemed to go through fine. Then it restarted and it goes into loading windows xp back on it. When the status bar gets to about halfway, it freezes up on me.
Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: seriouslyneedshelp on December 15, 2009, 12:58:57 AM
PLS HELP! I'm encountering the same problem.

boots from CD at start up

starts loading files

freezes at set-up is starting windows

I TRIED TO DO  KILLDISK and CLEANED my HDD,

but it sill freezes at setup is starting windows.

I never get to the MENU where you pick the partitions and do a fesh install.

I am also using a HITACHI HDD.


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SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE! =(

Title: Re: Laptop reformat freezes on "Setup is starting Windows"
Post by: Allan on December 15, 2009, 05:57:19 AM
You need to start a new thread.