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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows XP => Topic started by: NEO on September 12, 2008, 09:23:24 AM

Title: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 12, 2008, 09:23:24 AM
I NEED YOUR HELP MY NOTEBOOK COMPAQ NC6000 DOESN'T BOOT IT SHOWS NTLDR MISSING I MADE A BOOTABLE CD WITH NTLDR BUT IT DOESN'T START UP IT SHOWS ME THAT THAT HAL.DLL IS MISSING A MADE ANOTHER BOOTABLE CD WITH NTLDR AND HAL.DLL BUT IT SIT DOESN'T START WINDOWS BUT IT STARTS ANOTHER PROGRAM CALDERA DR-DOS AND SHOWS THIS MESSAGE:THE SYSTEM MEMORY MANAGER (EMM386.EXE) HAS DETECTED AN ERROR CAUSED BY A FAULT IN ONE OF THE DEVICE DRIVERS OR PROGRAMS LOADED IN THE SYSTEM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO BOOT FROM THE CD EVEN IN BIOS CAN U HELP ME PLEASE?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: kpac on September 12, 2008, 09:28:53 AM
I can't help you, but...

PLEASE TURN OFF CAPS.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 12, 2008, 09:31:47 AM
Can you boot into Windows via Safe Mode (http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm)?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 12, 2008, 09:52:22 AM
no i can't boot because it tell's me that hal.dll is missing or tell's me no it stops when it reachces the file system32\DRIVER\agp440.sys and then it restarts
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on September 12, 2008, 09:57:09 AM
This may be of some use:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000490.htm
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 12, 2008, 09:17:57 PM
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I MADE A BOOTABLE CD
How, and why? Do you have Windows CD?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 08:53:16 AM
of course i have a windows bootable CD what did u thought?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: kpac on September 13, 2008, 08:57:44 AM
You mightn't have had the CD... How are we supposed to know?

What operating system are you using?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: dslgeek on September 13, 2008, 09:11:40 AM
The NTLDR is a basic part of the boot process in Windows 2000 and XP. It does not often get "lost", but this error message could mean the disk has been damaged or removed or the wrong drive was selected in the BIOS. This  happens also when you leave a floppy in the drive.
First thing is to check the BIOS settings and see if the right boot order is selected. If the C MOS battery is dead, the BIOS may have reset itself to bad settings. You can verify the presences of the Hard Drive and the CD ROM drive within the BIOS. The CD-ROM should be the first boot device. That is needed to do diagnostics with the original XP or 2000 install disk.
In the recovery console you can use the command 'fixboot' to restore the NTLDR. B but this is to no avail if the wrong drive was selected by the BIOS.
Hope this is of some help.  :D
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 13, 2008, 10:04:12 AM
Once you boot from Windows CD, follow this: http://icrontic.com/articles/repair_windows_xp
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 11:24:13 AM
how many times i have to say it man it doesn't boot from the CD of windows and the running system is windows XP Sp2
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 13, 2008, 11:26:30 AM
If you set BIOS to boot from CD first, and you still can't do it, then either Windows CD is bad, or your CD drive is bad. Try CD on another computer, first.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 11:33:30 AM
the CD is OK i have tried it in other PC but my notebook isn't all right it came from us and doesn't have the option to boot from the CD it is making me crazy
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 13, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
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doesn't have the option to boot from the CD
Explain, please.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 11:40:57 AM
it has only 2 options one is notebook networkmultibay that is first and the second is notebook harddrive. in bios
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 13, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
Maybe this will help: Unable To Boot To A CD/FDD Drive Using the USB MultiBay Cradle (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=367367&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=367367&objectID=c01236935)
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 12:02:15 PM
thank u man i think it will help me i will try it tonight and give u an answer
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 13, 2008, 12:08:58 PM
You're welcome :)
Keep us posted.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: patio on September 13, 2008, 02:21:21 PM
how many times i have to say it man it doesn't boot from the CD of windows and the running system is windows XP Sp2

And drop the bad attitude...this is a Help Forum.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: NEO on September 13, 2008, 02:24:21 PM
sorry i didn't want to do that but that notebook is making me crazy
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: dslgeek on September 13, 2008, 07:49:35 PM
So you can not boot even a floppy?  If not, you may have to reload the Hard drive by using the network. What make and model is it?  If it has NETBIOS you can reload it from another computer using a cross-over cable. ???
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: killerb255 on September 14, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
I NEED YOUR HELP MY NOTEBOOK COMPAQ NC6000 DOESN'T BOOT IT SHOWS NTLDR MISSING

Either the ntldr file (usually on the root of C:\) is actually missing or it's corrupt.

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I MADE A BOOTABLE CD WITH NTLDR

What type of bootable CD?

a) A CD with just NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI on the boot sector of a CD?
b) A CD with MS-DOS files on it along with NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI?
c) A CD with DR-DOS files on it along with NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI?
d) A Windows 98 disc?
e) An Ultimate Boot CD?
f) A BartPE CD?
g) A WinPE 2.0/2.1 CD?
h) A Linux Live CD?

There are many kinds of bootable CDs, so you need to be more specific.  BTW, choices b) and c) above won't boot unless those files are written to the boot sector of the disc and not the data sectors of the disc itself.

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BUT IT DOESN'T START UP IT SHOWS ME THAT THAT HAL.DLL IS MISSING A MADE ANOTHER BOOTABLE CD WITH NTLDR AND HAL.DLL


See above.

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BUT IT SIT DOESN'T START WINDOWS BUT IT STARTS ANOTHER PROGRAM CALDERA DR-DOS

That right there tells me that your laptop can boot to a CD.  Otherwise, Caldera DR-DOS wouldn't have executed (which was on the CD you created at the time).

In other words, you did c) above, writing them to the boot sector. :)

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AND SHOWS THIS MESSAGE:THE SYSTEM MEMORY MANAGER (EMM386.EXE) HAS DETECTED AN ERROR CAUSED BY A FAULT IN ONE OF THE DEVICE DRIVERS OR PROGRAMS LOADED IN THE SYSTEM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO BOOT FROM THE CD EVEN IN BIOS CAN U HELP ME PLEASE?

You made the DR-DOS disc correctly--it's just that part of DR-DOS isn't compatible with your laptop.

I would suggest choice a) above if you can do it correctly. 

Choice a) Instructions:

1a) If you have a physical floppy drive, copy NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI to the floppy. 
2a) Use Nero or Roxio to create a bootable CD using the floppy.
or
1b) If you don't have a floppy, then Google for a program called "Virtual Floppy Drive" or "VFD."  Create the VFD, then copy the files to it. 
2b) Use the resulting floppy image in Roxio or Nero to create your bootable CD.

Otherwise, if that's too much of a hassle, go with choice g) and put NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI on a flash drive.

Choice g) instructions:

1) Create your PE disc.

The easiest way I've found to create a PE disc is to follow these instructions:

http://www.msfn.org/board/How-to-make-a-basic-WinPE-20-CD-t83722.html&hl=2Mount.bat

2) Once you create the PE disc, try to boot from it (don't worry about the BIOS--you were able to boot from a CD before, so you should be able to boot from this one).  Just make sure your computer has at least 384 MB of RAM or else PE will crap on you.

3) While it's booting, plug in the flash drive with NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.INI on it.

4) When PE is up and running, you'll see a command prompt.  The drives will probably be assigned as follows:

C: The drive with Windows XP on it giving you **** about NTLDR.
D: Your CD-ROM drive.
E: Your flash drive with the three files on it.
X: Windows PE's RAM drive.
(although D and E may actually be switched above).

5) Type in the following commands, pressing Enter after each one:
C:
ren ntldr ntldr.old
ren ntdetect.com ntdetect.com.old
ren boot.ini boot.ini.old
E:
copy ntldr c:
copy ntdetect.com c:
copy boot.ini c:
notepad

6) In notepad, click File -> Open.

7) Go to the C drive and find boot.ini.  Open it.

8) Make sure your boot.ini is referencing the correct partition.  It should look something like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

If not, change it.  The last line may have /noexecute=optin or something like that.  That's okay.

Save your changes and close Notepad.

9) Close the command prompt.  This will shut down PE and restart your computer.  Remove the PE disc and the flash drive.



Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 05:59:06 PM
Wow, that's a nice homework, Mr. killerb255 :)
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: killerb255 on September 14, 2008, 06:10:59 PM
Wow, that's a nice homework, Mr. killerb255 :)

Thanks! 

The company I work for usually does unattended installs of Windows XP and Vista using boot discs.  We used to use the Ultimate Boot CD until we found out not only that Vista doesn't like DOS-based unattended installs, but XP with certain long file names slipstreamed into the source (usually after IE7 or Window Media Player 11 is slipstreamed) doesn't like it either.  From there, we just used Windows PE for that purpose.

PE's also good for other things:
- replacement for XP recovery console (good for people with factory-built systems that don't come with a real OS disc).
- removing virus or malware files without having to be in the main OS (if only Hijack This can read a remote registry...).
- moving/copying/deleting system files that are normally locked while in Windows
- using Ghost or Acronis to clone a hard drive/push a clone image to a hard drive or partition.

Windows PE 2.1 is basically a stripped down Windows Vista live CD without Explorer (it only has a command prompt)...and it's free from Microsoft (what a concept!).  Since PE can read flash drives without much hassle, I figured that was the next best route for NEO to take.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 06:23:47 PM
It looks like this board can surely use you with helping others :)
Enjoy your stay...
How did you find out about CH, anyway?
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: killerb255 on September 14, 2008, 06:38:11 PM
I found out about this place while Googling for a problem I was having with a customer's speakers. :)
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on September 14, 2008, 06:43:12 PM
You're ours, now :)
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: dslgeek on October 08, 2008, 10:33:04 AM
You said you have a NOTEBOOK COMPAQ NC6000  ???
Did you steal this notebook? If it was yours, you would know how it works. And you could contact HP and they would help you. :P
This notebook does not need to boot from a CD.  :o
Do a search or "Compaq Support" and you will find other forums that deal just in Compaq notebook issues. ;D
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: killerb255 on October 08, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
While we're necromancing 3-week old topics...I am curious as to whether Neo was able to resolve his issue...
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: AkumaNoOni on October 29, 2009, 04:52:33 AM
i have the same problem as above person.. i tried the repair console,, did the fixboot command, did the fixmbr command,,, and it still says:

Press any key to boot from CD. . . .
NTLRD is missing
press  Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart


its a DELL Desktop... and im about to run head first into a wall...
 please help
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Allan on October 29, 2009, 05:43:08 AM
Rather than posting in a topic that is a year old, you should start your own thread.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: dslgeek on January 25, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
He is new and he found this thread in a search.

Anybody who landed here on a search needs to look at this:
NTLDR is Missing.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

Appies to:

NTLDR is Missing
Press any key to restart

Boot: Couldn't find NTLDR
Please insert another disk

NTLDR is missing
Press Ctrl Alt Del to Restar

Yes, the post is old but new people still find it as a reference.

If you are new here, start a new topic using a similar message like
NTLDR error, howz can I fix it?
Or something like that.
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: james_011 on February 27, 2010, 05:22:22 PM
just google it...lots of solution there...
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Allan on February 28, 2010, 06:58:12 AM
just google it...lots of solution there...
???
Title: Re: NTLDR IS MISSING AND DOESN'T BOOT FROM THE CD
Post by: Broni on February 28, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
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Experience: Experienced
:P  ???