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Software => Computer software => Topic started by: Saurabhdua on March 12, 2011, 01:16:57 AM
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Hello There! :o
It seems very much like the "Same soul in two different bodies"; "Eudora" & "Mozilla Thunderbird" installed on WinXP based machine!
It is becoming relatively impossible for me to retain two different email A/c.s within these two, as any updation impacts the other!
Thunderbird was installed later to Eudora & yet it picked up the same A/c. with exactly similar settings, out of nowhere!? :o
Now, if I tend to delete an A/c. from within Thunderbird, same replica happens with Eudora??!
What should I do to get rid of one of these without having to altogether re-configure my email A/c.?
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Why do you need both email clients? Also, you did not state which of these you are using: (1) What operating system (2) What version of Eudora (3) What version of Thunderbird.
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Hello Salmon!
I need both in order to configure 2 different email accounts within these. Iam well aware that a single client can handle multiple accounts BUT the issue lies with "Default" SMTP address.
Many a times, a mail is simply not able to reach the recipient(or lands in SPAM) because it goes through some other service provider's SMTP address!
Consider sending a GMX mail using Google's SMTP address! I have tried & experienced that such scenario is not completely flawless.
As far as Info required is concerned, here it goes:::
OS-Win XP, SP3
Versions of Eudora & Thunderbird can be accessed using screenshots.
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As you will note from the version information screens, they are actually differently named versions of the same program. Why don't you choose a different free email client?
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I need both in order to configure 2 different email accounts within these. Iam well aware that a single client can handle multiple accounts BUT the issue lies with "Default" SMTP address.
Can we re-state this? Here's what I think you're saying. If you have two email accounts setup in your email client (each account, of course, having a unique SMTP server), one of those SMTP servers gets designated as default by the email client and it uses that SMTP server regardless of which account you would like the recipient to see a message coming from. Is that it?
If that's it, I suggest downloading and installing Windows Live Mail. It creates a separate set of folders (Inbox, Drafts, Sent Mail, etc.) for each account. And, if you select an Account in the left column and then click on New to create a new message, it automatically assigns the related SMTP server for that account; that can be overridden if desired.
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Hello Soybean!
Your first paraphrasing holds true.
Every email client does definitely create separate Inbox,Sent....etc. folders for every email A/c. configured to it. But the issue remains mainly with the "Sending mails".
We have to assign a default SMTP address, & in my experience, this can become a cause of trouble.
Imagine, my 2 mail A/c.'s configured with Eudora. One being a GMX Mail service & other belonging to Gmail (with Gmail's SMTP address being made default). I have observed many a times that mail sent through GMX is simply not able to reach the recipient owing to default SMTP assigned to that of Google's.
If there is a SYNC b/w POP or IMAP with SMTP of the same service provider, then everything definitely goes smoothly. However, if the "From: "address is of service provider A & SMTP of that of B, issue does definitely arise in some way or another. Either recipient do not get that mail or it lands somewhere in SPAM/Junk.
What's your experience of configuring multiple accounts within same client?
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On all e-mail clients I've used the SMTP and other settings remained the same for all setup accounts. That is I've never had thunderbird try to access my hotmail account via my webhosts SMTP, or the other way around.
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I've made some screen prints from WLM (Windows Live Mail) to illustrate what I attempted to explain in my previous post. Again, as you can see in the first image, WLM creates a separate set of folders (Inbox, Drafts, etc.) for each account. Suppose I click on Hotmail in that left panel (referring to same image again) and then click on New (on toolbar at top) to create a new message. WLM will automatically, i.e. by default, use the SMTP server for Hotmail; see the second image. Likewise, if I click on the Embarqmail folder, the main folder for my Embarq email account (this is an ISP account) and then click on New to compose a message, WLM will, by default, show the SMTP server for my Embarq account. And, the same for the Gmail account. As shown in the third image, I can override the default SMTP choice for any of the accounts by clicking on the drop-down box at the upper right of the new message panel.
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Nobody seems to have picked up my point above, about Qualcomm Eudora and Thunderbird really being differently branded versions of the same program, which makes some kind of "settings takeover" more explicable, perhaps. But only if not over-ridden. Eudora 8/Eudora OSE is really just Thunderbird 3.x with Penelope added. Eudora 7 was the last "real" Eudora.
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Salmon, I guess you're addressing his original question about what he was experiencing with Eudora and Thunderbird; you're explaining why it happens, right?
That's different from my comments here, which are focused on using WLM as a solution.
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Hello Soybean!
As per the evident screenshots, you are making a choice among the "From:" addresses & that cannot be construed( & give no idea) as default SMTP address!
Rather, you should post the Screenshots of Tools>>Account Settings>>Outgoing server address to check whether the default SMTP automatically changes as per the "From:" feild choice!?
If the "From:" address is of service provider A & default SMTP(as per above path) is of service provider B, then the issue persists.
As far as "Duplicacy" behavior is concerned, Salmon has pointed correctly that both are powered by Mozilla.
In that case, there arises a need of advisory.
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Rather, you should post the Screenshots of Tools>>Account Settings>>Outgoing server address to check whether the default SMTP automatically changes as per the "From:" feild choice!?
It does. That IS what I've said.
If the "From:" address is of service provider A & default SMTP(as per above path) is of service provider B, then the issue persists.
I thought I made this clear in my last post but let me reiterate:
If I click on the Embarqmail folder, i.e. the main folder for my Embarq email account (this is an ISP account), and then click on New to compose a message, WLM will, by default, use the Embarq account as the From account and show the SMTP server for my Embarq account. And, the same for using the Gmail account as the From account; the SMTP for Gmail will used by default.
The SMTP for the Embarq account is smtp.embarqmail.com; for Gmail, smtp.gmail.com.
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Hello Soybean! :-\
Please refer to the attached screenshot of your 'very-own' WLM. Please explain the evident scenario.In my case, MSN holds the default status irrespective of, even if I choose my ISP's mail A/c. from the "From:" drop-down menu.
Whole-hearted thanks for your time & effort...
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The answer to the question (first sentence) in red text in your image is yes. Regarding the second question (third sentence) in red text in your image, which account is set as default comes into play when click on an email link on a website or in a file (word processing, spreadsheet, etc.). In that event, Windows needs to know what email account to send From. Otherwise, the default designation in the Accounts panel of WLM has no significance that comes to mind.
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Thanks Soybean!
I got your point & it has definitely cleared my concept of "Default" in this context. I think, the other client makers should also designate a term -"Default A/c.", very much like WLM does, instead of just showing up as plain (default) & that too somewhere in dark corners of the SMTP server settings.
Have you ever tried using any other email client?
Lastly, did you replicate the 'Twin symptoms' of Eudora & Thunderbird?
All help appreciated & therefore a whole-hearted Thanks! :)
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Have you ever tried using any other email client?
I've used:
> Outlook Express for many years; in contrast to WLM, it does not create a separate set of folders for each account when multiple accounts are created and it does not select the SMTP server based on the outgoing account being used.
> Microsoft Outlook (part of MS Office), with Office 97, Office 2003, and Office 2007.
> Windows Mail, the email client that comes with Windows Vista.
> Evolution (slight usage) , an email client that comes with Linux Ubuntu.
> WLM, as discussed here.
> Thunderbird (slight usage), with Linux Ubuntu and as a portable app (running off a flash drive) with Windows 7, and I've observed that it assigns the outgoing/STMP server according to the From account selected, same as WLM.
I have not used Eudora. Therefore, I can not replicate the "'Twin symptoms' of Eudora & Thunderbird". But, this is irrelevant, isn't it? Clearly, the conclusion of this discussion it that there's no need to use two email clients for the purpose of using two email accounts.
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Hello Soybean!
Please clarify the following quote of yours! Then what exactly Outlook express used to do?
I've used:
> Outlook Express does not select the SMTP server based on the outgoing account being used.