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Title: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: totaleclipser on November 09, 2006, 01:01:12 PM
Having an issue with the display in the add and remove programs list. When you open it, it lists all programs from A through D then there is a large area to scroll down through that starts off all black then as you go down it stays black on the sides like a border with white inside for awhile then a black section inside the white for awhile then white inside that one and then black inside the next one so as you scroll down in the middle area it looks like equal black and white stripes then it starts to go back to normal as if you were going back in reverse then back to white with all the rest of the programs listed from E-Z  
 
Anyone ever see this before and how do i fix it?

This, i was told, might have some bearing on the problem i am having with install of new video card. PC runs fine with TI4200 WITH 93.71 DRIVERS but system refuses to install a new 7600GS and the so called techs can't figure it out so all they say is to wipe the HD and start over, this has to be the last resort.

Any help in the right direction please
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: dl65 on November 09, 2006, 01:14:07 PM
 totaleclipser...  The things computers do never cease to amaze me.......
What operating system are you using, XP home or XP Pro ?
This issue never occurred prior to changing the vid card ..... is that correct?
Was the old vid card integrated or a plug in card ?

dl65  ::)
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 09, 2006, 01:22:02 PM
There's a registry edit that can fix this but before you go there have a look at ccleaner>tools, you may be able to remove the bad entry from there.
Ccleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/download/)
(During install, uncheck the Yahoo Toolbar option)
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 09, 2006, 01:59:53 PM
XP Home. No this has been in there for a long time. I was told by so called tech person that because they could not install the new drivers and get sys. to acknowledge the card even after using driver cleaner pro that it must be my op sys.
oldest card was leadtek GF3 TI200 / MSI TI4200/ EVGA6600GT WHICH DIED then they had no replacement at the time so went back ti4200 until 3 days ago for this new one 7600gs which is giving me fits, the mother board is an A7V333 with agp pro slot and info says it is 2.0 compliant
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: patio on November 10, 2006, 06:55:36 AM
Do you happen to have a version of AutoCad on that machine ? ?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 10, 2006, 11:34:13 AM
  I was in contact with nvidia , they suggested chipset bio driver update.

Did CCleaner:  no diff
Did MEM test: no problems
Did VIA 4IN1 bios driver: no diff
Did Prim 95 stress test:  no problems
Did defrag:  ok
Did anti virus run: ok
Did spyware/adware run: ok
Did registry Fix v5.5 free ver.  

       Problems  found: 296

Classes section: 58
Application Paths: 2
Program ID section 55
File associations:  2   These 2 are fixed by free ver.
Complete Registry scan:  175
Invalid shortcuts:  4

 So should i then buy something like this and fix these and see if it will fix add/remove weird look and maybe the new card issue ?  Or just give it up and get an 6600gt from newegg seeing how they seem to have them back in stock now and it did work before with no issues till it died? not sure anymore arrgh!
  
  Funny how pc works fine/same as before with TI4200, overclocked to 300/515 playing farcry  through coolbits.
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 10, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
Did you just run the cleaner in ccleaner or did you go into [highlight]tools[/highlight] and check the add/remove entries in there?
See there is a difference between uninstall & remove the entry?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 10, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
Oops forgot to say no Autocad on sys.
 And yes i did just run the cleaner and the issues. i am not sure what you are asking me to do, but perhaps if i found something in this Tools area to just uninstall it if it was pertnate to the problem.  I have attached the list of what is in there.  Perhaps there is something you will see that i do not , that should be removed.
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 10, 2006, 05:10:27 PM
I suspect you have unistalled a program or programs in the past but the uninstallers were poorly written & they have left that those blanks in your Windows add/remove programs.

You will notice that ccleaner has options to either run the uninstaller or remove the entry.

Are there any entries showing in ccleaner>tools that are not showing up in Windows add/remove programs or are there any entries in ccleaner that you have already uninstalled?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 10, 2006, 06:32:02 PM
Yes i did see that "Programs to uninstall" and the list is long and it does have some things on there that are not on the add/remove programs file , some appear to be sub parts of other programs like from cannon camera but there are a few i do not know what they are. So i must admit i did not run the unistaller cus wasn't sure if it would do the whole list or only the one i highlighted of which i have no certainty of the ones i can do without screwing up something.  I have in the past removed lots of stuff and i also have gone into the registry and removed what i was sure had been removed from the add/remove program files but had left entries behind and have never messed anything up.  So with that in mind how do i determine what should get removed?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: patio on November 10, 2006, 06:55:00 PM
List the apps you are unsure of and we;ll go from there...
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 10, 2006, 09:31:28 PM
Looking at your original post I think your problem would be in the Ds to Es.
That should narrow the search down a little.

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Having an issue with the display in the add and remove programs list. When you open it, it lists all programs from [highlight]A through D[/highlight] then there is a large area to scroll down through that starts off all black then as you go down it stays black on the sides like a border with white inside for awhile then a black section inside the white for awhile then white inside that one and then black inside the next one so as you scroll down in the middle area it looks like equal black and white stripes then it starts to go back to normal as if you were going back in reverse then back to white with all the rest of the programs listed from [highlight]E-Z[/highlight]  

Have any of the following been uninstalled but are still listed?
If so I'd use the ccleaner remove entry button or edit the entry out of the registry if you're ok with that.
D-Link PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
DH Driver Cleaner Professional Edition
Electronic Arts Game Updater
eMusic - 100 Free MP3 offer
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 10, 2006, 10:23:28 PM
Oh what fun task, not.  
  Ok here is a list entries on CCleaner
 
Camera Support Core Library
Camera Window
ccCommon
Electronic Arts Game Updater
FarCry(patch1.3)
HP Photo and Imaging 2.0 All-in-one Drivers
HP Photo and Imaging 2.0 All-in-one
hp psc 2170 series
Internet Worm Protection
MovieEdit Task
Norton AntiVirus 2005
Norton AntiVirus Help
Norton AntiVirus Parent MSI
Norton AntiVirus SYMLT MSI
Norton WMI Update
PhotoStitch
Platform
RAW Image Task 1.1
RemoteCapture Task 1.0.3
SPBBC
Symantec Network Drivers Update
Symantec Scrip Blocking Installer
Symantec
SymNet
WebFldrs XP
Windows Genuine Advantage v1.3.0254.0

Ok now i am sure most of these must be asociated with their typical names
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 10, 2006, 10:34:28 PM
So that would make the following part of that wacko dream I had last night?
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530TX+
ACT LABS Force RS USB  Driver
ACT LABS Force RS USB Driver
Ad-Aware SE Personal
Adobe Atmosphere Player for Acrobat and Adobe Reader
Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 Starter Edition
Adobe Reader 7.0.8
AirPlus G
ANIMUSIC Screensaver
ANIO Service
ANIWZCS2 Service
ArcSoft Camera Suite 2.1
Avant Browser (remove only)
BeatHarness for Winamp 2x (remove only)
Calculator Powertoy for Windows XP
Camera Support Core Library
Camera Window
Canon Camera Support Core Library
Canon Camera Window for ZoomBrowser EX
Canon MovieEdit Task for ZoomBrowser EX
Canon PhotoRecord
Canon RAW Image Task for ZoomBrowser EX
Canon RemoteCapture Task for ZoomBrowser EX
Canon Utilities PhotoStitch 3.1
Canon Utilities ZoomBrowser EX
ccCommon
CCleaner (remove only)
Colin McRae Rally 04
Colin McRae Rally 2005
Colin McRae Rally 2
Colin McRae Rally 3
Confidence Online(tm) for Web Applications
Copernic Agent Basic
D-Link PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
DH Driver Cleaner Professional Edition
Electronic Arts Game Updater
eMusic - 100 Free MP3 offer
Far Cry (Patch 1.3)
Far Cry
Futuremark Measurement Services Client
GetRight
Google Earth
Google SketchUp
GSpot Codec Information Appliance
GTR 2 1.0.0.0
hp instant support
HP Memories Disc
HP Photo and Imaging 2.0 - All-in-One Drivers
HP Photo and Imaging 2.0 - All-in-One
HP Photo and Imaging 2.0 - hp psc 2170 series
hp psc 2170 series
IKEA HomePlanner Kitchen
Internet Worm Protection
iTunes
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Juno
K-Lite Codec Pack 2.69 Standard
LiveReg (Symantec Corporation)
LiveUpdate 2.6 (Symantec Corporation)
Logitech Gaming Software
Macromedia Flash Player 8
Macromedia Flash Player
Macromedia Shockwave Player
MadOnion.com/3DMark2001
MaxBlast 4
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
Microsoft Data Access Components KB870669
Microsoft Office 97, Professional Edition
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable
Microsoft Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor
Mojo Master Winamp Visualizer for Winamp (remove only)
MovieEdit Task
Mozilla Firefox (2.0)
Mozilla Thunderbird (0.9)
MSN Messenger 6.2
MSXML 4.0 SP2 Parser and SDK
NASCARŪ Racing 2003 Season
Need For Speed - Porsche Unleashed
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2
Need For Speed III
Need for Speed Underground 2
Need For Speed Underground
Norton AntiVirus 2005 (Symantec Corporation)
Norton AntiVirus 2005
Norton AntiVirus Help
Norton AntiVirus Parent MSI
Norton AntiVirus SYMLT MSI
Norton WMI Update
NVIDIA Drivers
Operation Flashpoint Gold Upgrade uninstall
Operation Flashpoint uninstall
Opera
PCFriendly
PCI Audio Driver
PhotoStitch
PhotoWise
Picasa 2
Platform
Prime95
QuickTime
RAW Image Task 1.1
RealPlayer
Registry Mechanic 5.0
RegistryFix v5.5
RemoteCapture Task 1.0.3
Schmap Player 1.1
Secure Delivery
Security Task Manager 1.6e
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (KB917283)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (KB922770)
Security Update for Windows Media Player (KB911564)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 10 (KB911565)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 10 (KB917734)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB883939)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB890046)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB893756)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896358)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896422)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896423)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896424)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896428)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896688)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899587)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899588)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899591)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB900725)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB901017)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB901214)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB902400)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB903235)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB904706)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905414)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905749)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905915)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB908519)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB908531)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB911280)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB911562)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB911567)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB911927)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB912812)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB912919)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB913446)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB913580)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB914388)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB914389)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB916281)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB917159)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB917344)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB917422)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB917953)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB918439)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB918899)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB919007)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB920214)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB920670)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB920683)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB920685)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB921398)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB921883)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB922616)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB922819)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB923191)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB923414)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB924191)
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 10, 2006, 10:35:14 PM
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Security Update for Windows XP (KB924496)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB925486)
Shockwave
Sp-Matto3
SPBBC
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Spybot - Search & Destroy 1.3
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy
Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast
Star WarsŪ: Knights of the Old Republic (TM)
Street Atlas USA 2003 Data
Street Atlas USA 2003
Symantec Network Drivers Update
Symantec Script Blocking Installer
Symantec
SymNet
System Requirements Lab
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Topo USA 4.0 Region 6 Data
Topo USA 4.0
Tweak UI
TypingTutorial 4.40
Unofficial Singleplayer Mappack v1.1
Update for Windows XP (KB894391)
Update for Windows XP (KB896727)
Update for Windows XP (KB898461)
Update for Windows XP (KB900485)
Update for Windows XP (KB910437)
Update for Windows XP (KB916595)
Update for Windows XP (KB920872)
Update for Windows XP (KB922582)
USB 2.0 Setup program
VIA Platform Device Manager
Watchtower Library 2001 - English Edition
WebFldrs XP
Webshots Desktop
Winamp (remove only)
Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications (KB905474)
Windows Genuine Advantage v1.3.0254.0
Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803)
Windows Media Format Runtime
Windows Media Player 10
Windows XP Hotfix - KB834707
Windows XP Hotfix - KB867282
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873333
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873339
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885250
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885835
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885836
Windows XP Hotfix - KB886185
Windows XP Hotfix - KB887472
Windows XP Hotfix - KB887742
Windows XP Hotfix - KB888113
Windows XP Hotfix - KB888302
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890047
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890175
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890859
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890923
Windows XP Hotfix - KB891781
Windows XP Hotfix - KB893066
Windows XP Hotfix - KB893086
Windows XP Service Pack 2
WinRAR archiver
Yahoo! extras
Yahoo! Install Manager
Yahoo! Internet Mail
Yahoo! Messenger
Yahoo! Toolbar
ZoneAlarm Pro
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 10, 2006, 11:11:23 PM
 HA HA HA HA  

Most likely
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 12, 2006, 02:55:40 PM
To Fed:  Thank you the fix was to get rid of E A Updater and the add/remove gets displayed properly.   Now i will have to see if that was causeing a problem with new install of vidio card. One can hope it would be that easy!!

thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 12, 2006, 10:49:28 PM
It seems it's a common problem with program uninstallers failing to remove the actual entry.
If you Goggle for +"add remove programs" +black you will see what I mean.
How did you remove the entry, with ccleaner tools or a registry edit?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 12, 2006, 11:58:12 PM
I would have never thought of doing a search such as that ,very interesting stuff.
 Yes i did use the remove entry  in CCleaner
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 13, 2006, 12:04:13 AM
Forgot to mention i was able to install new 7600gs just fine after all that drama, sure am glad i am skeptical of what store techs say, they wanted me to wipe the HD and do a clean install of OP sys.
 
Thanks again   time for Farcry addon levels and mods
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 13, 2006, 01:18:07 AM
Have you seen the addon level with the swimming sharks? :o
The best Farcry patch is the nocd patch ;)
I'm on my second run through it, stuck in that Volcano level :-[
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 13, 2006, 10:43:45 AM
Do not recall if i have, got a level or mod name for it?  I have been through something similar as far as a very vilant and diligent mutants around a valcano, you have to drive over a messed up bridge before the action heats up?
I do not have a nocd patch does that mean i do not need to put cd in all the time?
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add and r
Post by: Fed on November 13, 2006, 12:09:43 PM
I'll put up a list of the addon levels I've played or looked at later, it has to be one of those.

That's where I'm at, over the bridge, up the hill, jump the lava river and carry on up the next hill on foot.
Those big dudes sure are tough.

I use the nocd patch to avoid using the disk, I don't consider it piracy because I have the original.
(It's just a replacement exe file)
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 13, 2006, 01:22:14 PM
I remember the spot but not the level name, took me some time to get through it.
I like the idea of nocd ,saves time and wear&tear on system.
Here is my list if  it will send.
Title: Re: XP home   issue with display of the add a
Post by: totaleclipser on November 13, 2006, 05:36:05 PM
One more thing, i need to make a retraction.
Yes useing CCleaner solved the add/remove display problem
BUT
the drivers and card issue was in the registry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SYSTEM
CurrentControlSet
Enum
PCI
need to right click and check full control in order to install properly.