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Title: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Geek-9pm on May 19, 2009, 04:35:32 PM
Are these good passwords?   (Ignore the blank line)
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nd%HrkD{
s&zCRi&Y
M=\^:;oo
X~w6b}8S
+⌂a"W*+l
<%=E=z}G
;00^HHd@

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kE<w\\I*
Vbwo#TwI
aPQMBG:&
8}'FCO0N
9\T0y_QF
+kLhYo#5
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Helpmeh on May 19, 2009, 04:53:58 PM
Are these good passwords?   (Ignore the blank line)
cSW<=j"i
nd%HrkD{
s&zCRi&Y
M=\^:;oo
X~w6b}8S
+⌂a"W*+l
<%=E=z}G
;00^HHd@

]52X)Lv:
kE<w\\I*
Vbwo#TwI
aPQMBG:&
8}'FCO0N
9\T0y_QF
+kLhYo#5

Not unless you have an amazing memory recall...otherwise, no. Not really.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Aegis on May 19, 2009, 04:56:11 PM
Well, yes, if you remember them, and the system(s) on which you use them have no problems with the special characters, they're good passwords -- certainly not easy to guess!
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 19, 2009, 05:17:31 PM
They are extremely strong passwords- completely impervious to dictionary attacks.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Ironman on May 19, 2009, 06:42:21 PM
not any more since you showed us...jk :P
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Helpmeh on May 19, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
They are extremely strong passwords- completely impervious to dictionary attacks.
AKA Brute-Force cracking. Hydra and Brutus are the most popular for that sort of thing. But true, completely impossible. If you had a random number/character generator on the other hand, it will eventually get it, but it will take an extremely long time.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 19, 2009, 07:02:33 PM
an incalcable amount of time. a few thousand years.

Geek, just make sure to change your password every millenium or so.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Karnac on May 20, 2009, 12:53:03 AM
Maybe round them off with  ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠  just  to be sure
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 04:40:43 AM
the one guy that I worked with if you want to call it that father took things off the keyboard.  One day it be like delete the next F7
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 20, 2009, 04:46:59 AM
the one guy that I worked with if you want to call it that father took things off the keyboard.  One day it be like delete the next F7

...


anybody else have a god *censored* clue what squalls trying to say here?
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Aegis on May 20, 2009, 05:45:17 AM
 The father of a coworker would remove keys from the keyboard. 

Now, I've hijacked my share of threads, but how this is relevant or even tangental, I cannot explain.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 06:24:14 AM
wrong, you fail just like carbon.  I said that the one guy that I worked with if you want to call it that father took things off the keyboard.  One day it be like delete the next F7

I suppose it wasnt all that clear but he was talking of passwords I ment like attucal charaters as them
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Geek-9pm on May 20, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
wrong, you fail just like carbon.  I said that the one guy that I worked with if you want to call it that father took things off the keyboard.  One day it be like delete the next F7

I suppose it wasnt all that clear but he was talking of passwords I ment like attucal charaters as them
This is one time I do understand you. We are talking about passwords. Several have mentioned how hard the hard the good ones are to remember. So you want something that would not be clear to anybody else. If it is funny and nonsense and stays in you mind.
Code: [Select]
L D T N f 7
Like Delete The Next F7
Looks good.



Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
not what I ment like he would change it day to day.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Geek-9pm on May 20, 2009, 05:07:24 PM
Thanks everybody.
Now I got it.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 21, 2009, 04:09:53 AM
so your going to make it tab or something then.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: michaewlewis on May 21, 2009, 12:20:57 PM
Check this link out..... http://lastbit.com/pswcalc.asp
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: peter37 on May 24, 2009, 11:14:14 AM
i suppose yes , :P
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: peter37 on May 25, 2009, 02:59:12 PM
better then the enigma code
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: torres1 on May 26, 2009, 04:07:24 AM
yes very very nery strong
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: kpac on May 26, 2009, 04:09:38 AM
Thanks for that absolutely useless post.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 04:12:50 AM
he's a noob what did you expect?
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: kpac on May 26, 2009, 04:15:12 AM
Weren't you a noob at some stage as well, just like everyone else? And who's the one who is complaining lately about name-calling around here?
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: uncleleo on May 26, 2009, 08:02:41 AM
Well, it depends on the thing you want to do with the passwords. Are they for internet sites or bank accounts? It's obvious that they aren't easy to hack by humans or the classic password tools. The most important thing is to keep them secret  ;D
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 08:22:47 AM
I understand that but most sites require you to make a post in one area or a topic thats been made before you start your own.  I never said that, I said accusations.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on May 26, 2009, 02:33:07 PM
I didn't count them, but the passwords at the start all had eight characters, yes?  Even with a wide character set, I don't think it would necessarily take a thousand years to brute force them - a lot depends on the responsiveness of the target system and whether it locks out password attempts etc.  A quick system with no real anti-intrustion measures - I reckon 8 character passwords would probably fall within a few months, especially if you deployed a network of attackers.  (Divide and conquer.)

Google "rainbow tables".  Illuminating.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: patio on May 26, 2009, 02:49:14 PM
According to michael's calculator in the link a 6 character password will last about 11 minutes under a brute force attack.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Helpmeh on May 26, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
According to michael's calculator in the link a 6 character password will last about 11 minutes under a brute force attack.
That can't be right. Like Rob said, most websites lock out after a certain amount of attemts, usually for about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 03:33:41 AM
give or take its not all setup that way.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: kpac on May 27, 2009, 03:41:39 AM
give or take its not all setup that way.

What isn't setup what way?
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 04:52:59 AM
how long your timed out and such
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: kpac on May 27, 2009, 05:32:01 AM
Sorry, come again?

The method Helpmeh was talking about is mainly used for spam bots, as they are not usually do not understand what "Wait 15 minutes to login again" means.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 27, 2009, 05:41:01 AM
wrong, you fail just like carbon.

Useless posts.
Useless comment.
Dragging topic to 3 pages.

Sorry, come again?
Just prooves that this topic will continue for another 3 pages.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 09:48:35 AM
ah I see must of missed that.  I prefer characters from games there really hard to know unless you played it and the spelling can be complex.  EX Bahamut, Shiva things like that I wouldnt recommend something like Spock or anything.  Hope that helped too  ;)
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on May 27, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
I tend to pick a line from a song and enter it with capitalisation and punctuation.  Granted you may end up with a 30 character password, but it's easy to remember and after you've typed it a few times, your speed will increase.  A 30 character password involving a mixture of case and non-alphanumeric characters is for all intents and purposes uncrackable and will probably remain so for the next decade at least.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: macdad- on May 27, 2009, 10:32:09 AM
Weren't you a noob at some stage as well, just like everyone else? And who's the one who is complaining lately about name-calling around here?

Kpac,

I think your starting to forget your Noob-Hood  :D
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:54 AM
a little more out there but okay.
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: Aegis on May 27, 2009, 11:09:18 AM
First lines of songs -- I like that!  Especially, some of those old songs my grandfather used to sing.

Let's see...

"In Heaven, there is no beer...that's why we drink it, here..."

 ;D
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: macdad- on May 27, 2009, 11:12:42 AM
I think they have a reasonable alternative there.  ;)
Title: Re: Are these good passwords?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
coffee a little taste of haven