Computer Hope
Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Server => Topic started by: Dead_reckon on September 25, 2006, 05:15:24 PM
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i get a blue screen of death with that message, same crap about checking new hardware, blah blah blah. but, according to what i read here:
[link]http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/i/irq.htm[/link]
it actually has somthing to do with the proccessor not being able to read ahead or somthing. i think...
my processor is a Northwood Intel Celeron D 2.60ghz with 128k cache, on a MSI 7060 socket 478 board.
is my processor just to old or slow to keep up? i was planning on upgrading to a P4 soon, but, i want to make sure my board isnt the issue. how do i find out what is causing the problem? and, how do i find out how to fix it?
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Here's what I found on a recent Google of this problem. Pretty generic but it will point you, hopefully :-/ in the right direction.
The "IRQ_LESS..." BSOD is IRQ conflict between hardware.. ie. two PCI cards sharing the same IRQ.
that message is a driver conflict
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is most certainly caused by faulty drivers or hardware. It can be any driver though, and USB / videocard / soundcard is what you should try to disable first
0x0000000A: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
(Click to consult the online Win XP Resource Kit article, or see Windows 2000 Professional Resource Kit, p. 1539.)
Typically due to a bad driver, or faulty or incompatible hardware or software. Use the General Troubleshooting of STOP Messages checklist above. Technically, this error condition means that a kernel-mode process or driver tried to access a memory location to which it did not have permission, or at a kernel Interrupt ReQuest Level (IRQL) that was too high. (A kernel-mode process can access only other processes that have an IRQL lower than, or equal to, its own.)
Troubleshooting “Stop 0x0A” Messages in Windows {KB 165863} Win NT, Win 2000, Win XP
Troubleshooting a Stop 0x0000000A Error in Windows XP {KB 314063} Win XP
Possible Resolutions to STOP 0x0A, 0x01E, and 0x50 Errors {KB 183169} Win NT, Win 2000, Win XP
During upgrade to Win XP {KB 311564} Win XP
STOP 0x0000000A Error Message When You Change from AC Power to DC Power {KB 316676} Win XP
“Stop 0x0000000A” Error Message When You Fast Switch Between Users {KB 310918} Win XP
While booting NT on same partition as Win 2000 or XP {KB 227301} Win NT, Win 2000, Win XP
Windows XP Restarts When You Try to Shut Down Your Computer {KB 311806}
“Fatal System Error” When You Try to Use a Hewlett-Packard 5100C ScanJet {KB 307129} Win XP (with Brother printer)
Computer May Hang During a Heavy Load with an Ericsson HIS Modem {KB 319810} Win 2000, Win XP
STOP 0x4E, STOP 0x1A, STOP 0x50, and STOP 0xA Errors Occur When You Try to Start the Computer {KB 271955} Win NT 4.0 (corrupt physical RAM)
“Stop: 0x0000000A (00000063, 0000001c, 00000000, parameter4)” error message on a Windows 2000-based computer {KB 837384} Win 2000 (program error, hotfix available)
How to Use Driver Verifier to Troubleshoot Windows Drivers {KB 244617} Win 2000, Win XP, Server 2003
Alan <>< :D
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found the error... but i have no idea how to enable the setting so i can fix it. as you read in the artical, there are only 15 irq places... view the image, you will see the prob. in win 98, i could fix this, but here, i have to go to some totally differant menu to enable or disable somthing, but i have no idea what i am looking for.
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hate to double post, but, i noticed that my sound card is on IRQ 19, it should be 05, video is on 16, it should be 11, according to computerhope's database. i got the info here:
[link]http://www.computerhope.com/irqs.htm#06[/link]
so, explain to me this: if proccessors only have 15 irq's, why are these things registering like this?
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Is it your videocard that causes problems?
Are you using the latest original drivers?
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Is it your videocard that causes problems?
Are you using the latest original drivers?
yes, i have the latest drivers for everything. oh, and i set google earth to use directx instead of GL, it crashed, too many IRQ requests... i have no idea how to fix this, i even looked in the bios, nothing.
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same crap about checking new hardware, blah blah blah
Shame on you, so far that's all you've really told us.
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look, all i want to know how to do is manualy set the IRQ number for my video and sound card, as you can see in the picture above, i cant. i have tried turning off the plug and play OS option in my BIOS, but to no aval. and this is really getting annoying, i cant run it for 30 minutes without it crashing.
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same crap about checking new hardware, blah blah blah
Shame on you, so far that's all you've really told us.
I think Fed was right on in this ......more info
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ahg...
my motherboard is a MSI, specs can be found here:
[link]http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=661FM2-LSR&class=mb[/link]
CPU is a Intel Celeron D 2.60ghz w\ 128k cache
i have two kingston DDR 400 512mb ram sticks
OS is windows XP pro version 5.1.2600 (version number obtained from command prompt)
i have a D-link AirPlus G DWL G150 WNIC in PCI slot 2
a Diamond Xtreme sound 16 bit 5.1 channel sound card on PCI 3
and my ATI Sapphire Radeon 9600 pro atlantis series 256mb 128 bit VPU on the AGP slot.
i have a quantum fireball 30 gig 7200rpm IDE drive as the primary on Bus 1. secondary on IDE bus 1 is a western digital caviar 40 gig. primary on IDE channel 2 is my CD burner, i keep forgetting to hook up my DVD burner.
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What's the exact message that the bsod gives you?
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What's the exact message that the bsod gives you?
many:
bad_pool_call
IRQ_not_less_or_equal
several others that i cannot remember, all of which are saying to check drivers and hardware.
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Have you checked your device manager, did you get your drivers from the manufacturer's websites, is your Windows uptodate?
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Have you checked your device manager, did you get your drivers from the manufacturer's websites, is your Windows uptodate?
yes, to all. there are no listed confilicts. everything is fine according to the device manager
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Setting your own IRQ's leaves too many variables to track down...
How about a comprehensive lisst ? ?
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Setting your own IRQ's leaves too many variables to track down...
How about a comprehensive lisst ? ?
list of what? the device manager?
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Have you added any new hardware?
When does this bsod appear?
Does it happen in safe mode?
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Setting your own IRQ's leaves too many variables to track down...
How about a comprehensive lisst ? ?
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Have you added any new hardware?
When does this bsod appear?
Does it happen in safe mode?
no, not in safe mode. i know it is my video card, a compatiblity issue with my motherboard and CPU i think. which is why i am upgrading soon. but that wont be for atleast 22 school days, not counting weekends with this job program.
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full list of my device manager can be seen here:
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/hardware1.jpg[/link]
and here:
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/hardware2.jpg[/link]
they are both 1024 x 768 screen shots. i disabled the one disabled hardware to prevent virtual drives from showin up when i put in a new hard drive and makin it a weird letter
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Below is a link for MemTest.Have you ran the test
to check your ram?
http://www.majorgeeks.com/MemTest_d350.html
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[highlight]Have you added any new hardware?[/highlight]
[highlight]When does this bsod appear?[/highlight]
Does it happen in safe mode?
no, not in safe mode. [highlight]i know it is my video card[/highlight], [highlight]a compatiblity issue with my motherboard and CPU i think[/highlight]. which is why i am upgrading soon. but that wont be for atleast 22 school days, not counting weekends with this job program.
BTW, my video card uses IRQ16...*shrug* I think it's an AGP thing.
Does you bsod show any other information or #s?
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Why do you have 2 display adaptors listed in your device manager?
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Why do you have 2 display adaptors listed in your device manager?
Two ports on one videocard.
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Device Manager doesn't show all devices installed. Neither does it show that Windows XP still remembers devices that have long been removed, that can cause conflicts.
Do the following to show hidden/removed devices;
- Right click My Computer
- Properties
- Advanced
- Environment variables
- System variables or User Variables (Depending on to whom you want to apply it to, one or all (system) users)
- Click "new"
Now type exactly what I have written down here:
Variable name: devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices
Value: 1
Click ok.
You may need to restart the PC.
Now open the device manager and go to View -> Display Hidden devices.
Make screenshots of your device manager and post them there again.
Everything that is opaque are drivers that are no longer in use, but Windows still sees them. Don't start removing them right away, though.
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ok, erm, wow, i had no idea those where there... i will screen shot them and edit this post with links when i am done.
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanager1.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanager2.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanager3.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanager4.jpg[/link]
i decreased the quality as far as i can without making them un readable, dial up friendly.
oh, and i will run the mem test, even though i know there is nothing wrong with these kingston sticks
i ran mem test with both sticks in, it found two errors, then i got the IRQ_not_less_or_equal error message. so i tried it with one stick, got one error, same BSOD, same thing happened with the other stick. i think my motherboard is failing
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It even happens outside of Windows?
Something must have gone wrong, I do not see any opaque entries; are you certain you have done exactly as I recommended?
However, if it even happens outside of Windows it is not related to any drivers; it is then hardware or BIOS related. Have you tried resetting your BIOS to the default settings and having it auto-assign IRQ's?
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Why do you have 2 display adaptors listed in your device manager?
Two ports on one videocard.
That may be true with some video cards, I guess, but it's not true for all video cards. I have a GeForce4 Ti4200 (AGP) with two ports and two monitors attached to it and my Device Manager only shows one Display Adapter. I have had a PCI video card installed in the same computer, along with the AGP card, and then Device Manager will show two display adaptors, representing the two cards.
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It even happens outside of Windows?
Something must have gone wrong, I do not see any opaque entries; are you certain you have done exactly as I recommended?
However, if it even happens outside of Windows it is not related to any drivers; it is then hardware or BIOS related. Have you tried resetting your BIOS to the default settings and having it auto-assign IRQ's?
yes, BIOS automatically assigns IRQ's. and yes, the second video card showing up is the second monitor output. and yes again, i did exactly as you said, no opaque entries.
edit: now some are appearing opaque, even though i restarted after doing this, they didnt show up like that, or some didnt even show up at all until after the last crash. i will upload another batch of pics..
i labled the hardware that i know of thats showing as transparent:
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanagersn1.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanagersn2.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanagersn3.jpg[/link]
[link]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/devicemanagersn4.jpg[/link]
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I see your motherboard has built-in video. Did you disable it in the BIOS when you installed your AGP card? I gather it would appear in Device Manager as "Real ...", not as ATI Radeon, so apparently, the built-in video is not a factor in your Device Manager showing two Display Adapters. As I said in my previous post, I'm not entirely in agreement with the notion that you should see two display adapters listed under Display Adapters. Perhaps this depends on the make of video card.
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I see your motherboard has built-in video. Did you disable it in the BIOS when you installed your AGP card? I gather it would appear in Device Manager as "Real ...", not as ATI Radeon, so apparently, the built-in video is not a factor in your Device Manager showing two Display Adapters. As I said in my previous post, I'm not entirely in agreement with the notion that you should see two display adapters listed under Display Adapters. Perhaps this depends on the make of video card.
trust me, i have disabled it before, it shuts off the second monitor. i know its weird, but my so is the rest of my PC.
(view previous page for latest screenshots)
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trust me, i have disabled it before, it shuts off the second monitor. i know its weird, but my so is the rest of my PC.
(view previous page for latest screenshots)
So, it's not disabled? Is that because you have one monitor connected to it and the other one to your video card?
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Why do you have 2 display adaptors listed in your device manager?
Two ports on one videocard.
That may be true with some video cards, I guess, but it's not true for all video cards. I have a GeForce4 Ti4200 (AGP) with two ports and two monitors attached to it and my Device Manager only shows one Display Adapter. I have had a PCI video card installed in the same computer, along with the AGP card, and then Device Manager will show two display adaptors, representing the two cards.
Your videocard may have two ports (DVI + VGA, user-selectable.) , but it might not support two monitors.
(view previous page for latest screenshots)
Dead_Reckon, do you have a TV card or any reason why you would have such drivers?
You really need to clean up your device manager, install drivers for the unrecognized devices or remove them.
You can re-enable the Printer and Com ports, etc in the BIOS they have fixed IRQ's (Correct me if I am wrong there)
Leave the Non-essential drivers alone, they might be related to programs that aren't currently running but could be needed by you in the future.
Leave the RAS-SYNC adaptor as well. It is not relevant.
The rest you can remove; but when in doubt, ask first. If still in doubt, leave it there.
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As I said, "I have a GeForce4 Ti4200 (AGP) with two ports and [highlight]two monitors[/highlight] attached to it and my Device Manager only shows one Display Adapter."
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As I said, "I have a GeForce4 Ti4200 (AGP) with two ports and [highlight]two monitors[/highlight] attached to it and my Device Manager only shows one Display Adapter."
Seem to be ATI drivers that do that, my Nvidia card hasn't got dual entries either.
If you remove one, you remove the other one as well from what I recall.
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ok, i will make this as simple as possible... my card has a D-sub, DVI and s-video output, it can ONLY display two monitors, and it shows BOTH of the ports being used on the device manager.
[link]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102410[/link]
well, apparently my problem will be solved in a couple of weeks, i know somone who works for microsoft, microsoft upgrades there computers MONTHLY, and throws out the "old" ones, i am getting a harldly used HP with a gig of ram, 3.0 ghz dual core CPU with 2mb of cache, dvd burner w/ dual layer and lightscribe tech. wireless keyboard, mouse, speakers, and a web cam. also a printer, scanner, and god knows what software. its all worth about 2 or 3 grand. im not paying a thing for it, i am saving it from the dump.
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Wow! What luck, getting that computer that Microsoft is getting rid of.
I understand your point about two display adapters shown in your Device Manager. Do you understand that I was questioning that because I also have two monitors connected to one card and my Device Manager shows one display adapter? Apparently, as Raptor said, this is a difference between ATI and nVidia cards and drivers. Here's my Device Manager. Although it shows 4 monitors, I actually have two; Windows insists on putting 4 in there.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/farmpond/forums/DeviceManager.jpg)
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for once, microsoft IS paying for the greif they have caused (including shipping). i will send pics of it when i get it.
the reason why it shows 4 is because windows probably realized they where plug and play, identified them, then thought the default monitors where still there
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I wonder if a Windows Update will trigger a visit from the Microsoft Police :D
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seriously, i do need help with this, it wont be another couple of weeks before it is shipped. and the problem is getting worse i just got an error that said
"page fault in non paged area"
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Try going back to the Stone Age and use only one monitor...does this eliminate the error messages ? ?
patio. 8-)
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Try going back to the Stone Age and use only one monitor...does this eliminate the error messages ? ?
patio. 8-)
no, it doesnt help, have even downgraded to the old Nvidia mx4000 64mb 64 bit card. still the same crap, its my motherboard. the nvidia is a PCI card, uses differant reasources
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Throw that machine in the nearest dumpster you can find minus the vid cards...buy a new machine with a shiny new MS CD included...re-install those vid cards and their appropriate drivers and post back.
patio. 8-)
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My MSI motherboard >:( caused me to own 2 computers, the second one I built from parts I purchased to swap out until I found the problem was MSI.
I still have the MSI in my work computer, it just locks every now & then. >:(
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My MSI motherboard >:( caused me to own 2 computers, the second one I built from parts I purchased to swap out until I found the problem was MSI.
I still have the MSI in my work computer, it just locks every now & then. >:(
Which is exactly why that MSI would have been in the dumpster by now if it were me.
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I had an MSI board that would randomly crash because of a defective USB controller. That was funny, never saw anything like that before. :-X
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I had an MSI board that would randomly crash because of a defective USB controller. That was funny, never saw anything like that before. :-X
sounds like somthing this thing would do to me... im tring to remember the random crap this thing has given me... too many things to list though, lol. oh, i downgraded to my old Nvidia again, but, its S-video plug is like... 7 pin, my ATI is 9 pin, so the adapter wont work, and i have no idea where my home made adapter is.
EDIT: i am going to start a poll to see peoples opinions on MSI products...
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Oh Joy ! ! Another poll...i can hardly wait.
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I had an MSI board that would randomly crash because of a defective USB controller. That was funny, never saw anything like that before. :-X
sounds like somthing this thing would do to me... im tring to remember the random crap this thing has given me... too many things to list though, lol. oh, i downgraded to my old Nvidia again, but, its S-video plug is like... 7 pin, my ATI is 9 pin, so the adapter wont work, and i have no idea where my home made adapter is.
EDIT: i am going to start a poll to see peoples opinions on MSI products...
I think you can simply rip out the pins you don't need. But don't quote me on that. :P
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I had an MSI board that would randomly crash because of a defective USB controller. That was funny, never saw anything like that before. :-X
sounds like somthing this thing would do to me... im tring to remember the random crap this thing has given me... too many things to list though, lol. oh, i downgraded to my old Nvidia again, but, its S-video plug is like... 7 pin, my ATI is 9 pin, so the adapter wont work, and i have no idea where my home made adapter is.
EDIT: i am going to start a poll to see peoples opinions on MSI products...
I think you can simply rip out the pins you don't need. But don't quote me on that. :P
if i had needle nose pliers, i might try it... but i dont. the 9 pin is just for the later version of the card that has a tv tuner built in (mine just has a next to useless 9 pin s-video plug)
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I believe Raptor was being facetious...
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I believe Raptor was being facetious...
No, I was on the phone with a senior staff member who recommended that I pull out the pins for a customer because the converter for VGA to DVI didn't fit. 4 pins too many.
But he also said that if it didn't work, the guy could come back and get a new converter. :P
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I believe Raptor was being facetious...
No, I was on the phone with a senior staff member who recommended that I pull out the pins for a customer because the converter for VGA to DVI didn't fit. 4 pins too many.
But he also said that if it didn't work, the guy could come back and get a new converter. :P
i dont see why removing the four pins wouldnt, the wires still go in the same place, they arnt needed in one area, why should they be in another?
oh, good news, job program is go, worked today. replaced a PSU with a dead fan, and a dead CD burner. also re installed windows 2000 on one, and XP on another, very simple stuff, but, heh, if it gets me out of school even ALITTLE early to deal with computers (i would rather deal with computers, they can only beep at you), then i am happy. i am going to buy another board for this PC, and use this as a multimedia centre PC (so i dont have to have all of my danged movies on my gaming PC)
i also found an old working 52x cd drive in the junk bin, was jammed, i just used the emergency release on it. it has the play\fastforward button, and the stop\eject button, so i can supply power to it, and run a cable to my amp and use it as a stand alone unit ;D . also found an old IDE controler card (PCI), going to test it later. the shop is locally owned by the manager, he needs all the help he can get (and my wage isnt coming out of his wallet, so he cant complain, free labor to him). i am going to go on a search through his shop if he will let me for any old socket 370 boards, i can build a few servers, i have 6 old socket 370 CPU's that WORK, 1 700mhz celeron, 4 700 mhz PIII's, and one 1.4 or 1.5 ghz celeron. the PII's and the 1.4 need a home, so, i am going to give them one. what i am going to do with 8 running PC's (this one, the old 370's, and my new one) i do not know, but, you can never be too prepared. once i get them built, i can put them to various uses, firewall, internet, server, ect. all of the CPU's came from HP's (odd, but true).
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my computer has suffered some... minor injuries since the last few crashes...
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/Dead-Reckon/ownedagain.jpg)
the dents where done with my keyboard (bottom corner in the pic), the half moon was done with my fist when the stupid thing fell off shortly after a crash (i had not hit it with the keyboard then, it just fell off for no reason)
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well, apparently my problem will be solved in a couple of weeks, i know somone who works for microsoft, microsoft upgrades there computers MONTHLY, and throws out the "old" ones, i am getting a harldly used HP with a gig of ram, 3.0 ghz dual core CPU with 2mb of cache, dvd burner w/ dual layer and lightscribe tech. wireless keyboard, mouse, speakers, and a web cam. also a printer, scanner, and god knows what software. its all worth about 2 or 3 grand. im not paying a thing for it, i am saving it from the dump.
Let me get this right. Microsoft throws $2000 computers in Redmond into a dump in Arizona so the peasants can pick over them? Is that because they are not Vista capable?
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well, apparently my problem will be solved in a couple of weeks, i know somone who works for microsoft, microsoft upgrades there computers MONTHLY, and throws out the "old" ones, i am getting a harldly used HP with a gig of ram, 3.0 ghz dual core CPU with 2mb of cache, dvd burner w/ dual layer and lightscribe tech. wireless keyboard, mouse, speakers, and a web cam. also a printer, scanner, and god knows what software. its all worth about 2 or 3 grand. im not paying a thing for it, i am saving it from the dump.
Let me get this right. Microsoft throws $2000 computers in Redmond into a dump in Arizona so the peasants can pick over them? Is that because they are not Vista capable?
pretty much... it DOES explain how they have drivers for just about every piece of hardware when it comes out. oh, i need help finding drivers for this card that work in XP (i assume that is why they didnt use it).
EDIT: atleast i can diss other peoples PC's on Counter Strike: source when i get the HP ;D . they use to diss my celery, and stuff, but now... hehehe.... now, i can diss there WEAK 2.8ghz pentium D's. hehehe, revenge is so sweet...