Computer Hope

Microsoft => Microsoft DOS => Topic started by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 09:19:03 PM

Title: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 09:19:03 PM
Before I upgraded to WindowsXP Pro SP2 I could, at the MS Dos Prompt, enter
ie. C:\Windows> help /?  and it would bring up all the dos commands.
Now my dos prompt is, C:\Windows\System32>  I know how to bring it back so it is just C:> I have tried to get the dos commands from here but cannot do so.
How do I do it?
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 06, 2007, 09:32:36 PM
help.exe is located in C:\Windows\System32 folder, so I don't know, why you want to go to C:\Windows
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 10:11:09 PM
help.exe is located in C:\Windows\System32 folder, so I don't know, why you want to go to C:\Windows
Broni,
I am not talking about Windows help. I'm referring to the MS-DOS help commands
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 06, 2007, 10:22:07 PM
Windows XP doesn't have a real DOS. It's an emulator, called Command Prompt, where you use DOS-like commands.
And DOS-like help command (help.exe) is located in C:\Windows\System 32.
Trust me.
Just go Start>Run, type in:
cmd
Hit Enter.
Type in:
help
Hit Enter.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 10:45:14 PM
Windows XP doesn't have a real DOS. It's an emulator, called Command Prompt, where you use DOS-like commands.
And DOS-like help command (help.exe) is located in C:\Windows\System 32.
Trust me.
Just go Start>Run, type in:
cmd
Hit Enter.
Type in:
help
Hit Enter.

Thanks Broni,
Works like a charm.
Just shows what an old  novice I am
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 06, 2007, 10:47:37 PM
I'm glad it worked for you :)
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 10:53:05 PM
All I need to find out now, is how to pause it, stop it scrolling.
I used to enter, C:\Windows>Dir /p
 
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 06, 2007, 11:01:55 PM
You don't need a switch.
Command Prompt window has a vertical scroll bar, like regular window. You can also maximize it.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 06, 2007, 11:16:53 PM
When I set up my dos program I searched for Command.com to set up MS Dos
I have now searched and found cmd, made a shortcut for it and put it in my shortcut menu.
Thanks again,
I  hope the time zones are not keeping you up.
I'm in Australia.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 06, 2007, 11:26:23 PM
Quote
I  hope the time zones are not keeping you up.
Not at all. I'm in California. It's only 10:25 PM here.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: dairyman on November 07, 2007, 12:29:35 AM
Not at all. I'm in California. It's only 10:25 PM here.

:o :o :o

Goodness!
How much sleep do you get?
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 07, 2007, 05:32:46 AM
Quote
How much sleep do you get?
LOL...Not much. I'm up already...4:30 AM
Nah, I've been just sick like a dog with a cold, for last two days.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: WillyW on November 07, 2007, 09:05:51 AM
All I need to find out now, is how to pause it, stop it scrolling.
I used to enter, C:\Windows>Dir /p
 

I would have used the /p switch too, as I don't have XP.   :)

In addition to what Broni said -   If you don't like using a scroll bar on a window,   or if you prefer a full screen,     then try:
dir | more


More info, syntax, etc. on the      more     command can be found here:
http://www.computerhope.com/morehlp.htm

As a matter of fact,   one of the examples given is exactly this!    :D

Keep it in mind -  the    more    command can often be useful.

Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 07, 2007, 10:36:41 AM
Yeah...
for some reason "/p" switch doesn't work, but "|more" does.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 07, 2007, 04:40:26 PM
Quote
I  hope the time zones are not keeping you up.
Not at all. I'm in California. It's only 10:25 PM here.

Thanks Broni for the |more command.
At my age, 8:30pm is late enough for me, as I usually get up at 5:30am.
As far as I can make out, the time differences between Sth. Australia & Hollywood Calif.are:
>Sth Aus.  10:00am. Thu. 8 Nov. Hollywood  3:30pm Wed 7 Nov.<
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 07, 2007, 04:55:39 PM
Quote
Thanks Broni for the |more command.
That wasn't me...it was WillyW....LOL

What city in Australia are you in?

Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 07, 2007, 05:02:08 PM
Quote
Thanks Broni for the |more command.
That wasn't me...it was WillyW....LOL

What city in Australia are you in?



Pt Wakefield
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 07, 2007, 05:20:57 PM
I see...

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3371412.gif)
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 07, 2007, 05:24:30 PM
Spot on
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: dairyman on November 07, 2007, 08:10:29 PM
G'day mate!
How ya' going?

If you want real DOS on XP, you need a Windows 98/Windows ME startup disk.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 07, 2007, 08:27:10 PM
G'day mate!
How ya' going?

If you want real DOS on XP, you need a Windows 98/Windows ME startup disk.
Thanks,
I have a windows 98 startup disc but until I learn a bit more I'll persevere with what I'm using.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 07, 2007, 08:40:00 PM
I think, Command Prompt window is even better, then regular DOS to practice commands, because you can resize it, and it provides you with a scroll bar, so you can see everything, you want.

There is a nice M$ page - Command-line reference A-Z:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds.mspx?mfr=true
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 07, 2007, 08:55:27 PM
I think, Command Prompt window is even better, then regular DOS to practice commands, because you can resize it, and it provides you with a scroll bar, so you can see everything, you want.

There is a nice M$ page - Command-line reference A-Z:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds.mspx?mfr=true

I have shortcuts in a new toolbar I created in the System tray for, MS-Dos that opens in a full screen, cmd that opens in a Window and Qbasic that opens as a full screen.

I am content with this so I'll stick with it.
 It's siesta time now, so adieu until tomorrow
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 08, 2007, 08:38:45 PM
I think, Command Prompt window is even better, then regular DOS to practice commands, because you can resize it, and it provides you with a scroll bar, so you can see everything, you want.

There is a nice M$ page - Command-line reference A-Z:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds.mspx?mfr=true

What I like about it is you still have access to the Windows Taskbar

[getting disk space - attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 08, 2007, 08:48:23 PM
If that black background is hard for your eyes (it is for mine), you can change it.
Click on that little icon in upper left corner, and click Properties to change it:

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3376118.gif)
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 08, 2007, 08:55:03 PM
I see...

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3371412.gif)

How did you paste this map?
I tried to send you one in my reply to your post, re ' MS Command. com is better '
but only managed a small attachment that needs to be opened to view it.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 08, 2007, 09:11:06 PM
Quote
but only managed a small attachment that needs to be opened to view it.
This happens when you you just attach your image to your post, using this board settings.
To implement an image inside your post, you have to upload the image to some web page, which allows posting images, post the image, right click on it, click on "Copy Image location", paste that link in your post, highlight it, and then click on THIS icon above:


(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3376180.gif)
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 08, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
Quote
but only managed a small attachment that needs to be opened to view it.
This happens when you you just attach your image to your post, using this board settings.
To implement an image inside your post, you have to upload the image to some web page, which allows posting images, post the image, right click on it, click on "Copy Image location", paste that link in your post, highlight it, and then click on THIS icon above:


(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3376180.gif)

Was you able to open the attachment I sent via Additional Options?
I have no idea on how to implement an image inside my post, and upload the image to some web page
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 08, 2007, 09:33:47 PM
You mean this:

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p3376213.gif)

I sent you additional PM about it.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 08, 2007, 09:40:45 PM
Yes that was what I sent
Would this suffice In lieu of uploading an image to a web site
I registered  but for some unknown reason the reply Email failed.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 08, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
Quote
Would this suffice In lieu of uploading an image to a web site
No, I just saved your image, and uploaded it to my practice web site. That's why, you can see it all.
Follow my PM instructions, and I'll tell you what to do next.
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: chequer on November 08, 2007, 10:11:58 PM
Quote
Would this suffice In lieu of uploading an image to a web site
No, I just saved your image, and uploaded it to my practice web site. That's why, you can see it all.
Follow my PM instructions, and I'll tell you what to do next.

OK. Will do
Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: WillyW on November 09, 2007, 10:42:23 AM
...
Follow my PM instructions, and I'll tell you what to do next.

Broni:   In case it helps, now or in the future,    you can refer foks to
http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?action=help;page=post
if you like.     In this case, chequer would need to scroll down to     
     insert image        .
Best of all,  there is lots of over interesting info there.   :)

chequer:
You might like to check out:
http://www.imageshack.us
No registration required.  I think it is optional though.
I've used it, and have not registered.

If you see a happy little guy waving at you,  that file hosting site works.   

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7861/c010handwaveattentionwe8.gif)

If you click on the     quote     button now,  you can see exactly what I entered in this post that causes the smilie to appear above.

Title: Re: Dos help
Post by: Broni on November 09, 2007, 10:50:55 AM
Good points :)