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Title: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: vidART on June 09, 2010, 10:40:59 PM
My son has a toshiba nb205 with WinsXP (a hand-me down from his brother) that is having difficulty booting. Having no luck with Safe mode, etc. Got error code Stop 0x00000024 at one point (I'm getting all this second hand & after the fact) Hoping to preserve his data, I would like to run recovery console, which I've done successfully before on a desktop and some laptops.  However - this is a notebook, w/o a CD drive. He had hoped to use a USb Sandisk cruser or some other device to reboot, or possibly an ext CD drive that he can borrow from his brother.  The notebook did not come with any CDs, though - no CD drive!  Can we download something that can be used thru the USb port? We borrowed a burned CD of WinXP from a friend, but did not seem to have the recovery console. And not sure of steps to get from CD to a form that can be used to re-boot the NB, that has only USb... - so I am unsure how to proceed at this point. Please advise.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: Geek-9pm on June 09, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
Check and see if that laptop boots from an external CD drive that runs on the USB ports. Thank has worked for me on other laptops.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: UNSCSpartan3 on June 11, 2010, 09:16:26 AM
yah you dont need any "usb boot cd" just an external drive
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: patio on June 11, 2010, 09:23:09 AM
yah you dont need any "usb boot cd" just an external drive

Ignore this...

Here Ya Go... (http://www.technixupdate.com/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-with-xp-recovery-console-with-usb-recovery-console/)

The machine needs to support booting to a USB device...
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: Computer_Commando on June 11, 2010, 01:44:53 PM
If you had a WinXP CD, you could attempt a repair install.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
Boot to the Recovery Console, but in your case with no WinXP CD, read this:
http://commandwindows.com/recovery.htm
More info here:  http://www.bootdisk.com/
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: killerb255 on June 13, 2010, 10:46:24 PM
The machine needs to support booting to a USB device...

I hope it does, since it didn't come with an optical drive of any kind...
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: UNSCSpartan3 on June 14, 2010, 08:53:45 AM
I hope it does, since it didn't come with an optical drive of any kind...

Haha you post made me lol! i completly agree  how did the oc get their in the first place if their is no dvd drive and no usb mode...???
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: Geek-9pm on June 14, 2010, 10:54:56 AM
Haha you post made me lol! i completly agree  how did the oc get their in the first place if their is no dvd drive and no usb mode...???
The PC can boot off the network. This feature is in many intel based motherboards.

Support for the Intel® Boot Agent
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/network/bootagent
Look for: Intel® Boot Agent for Intel® Network Adapters
Thu, 29 Apr 2010


Bart's Network Boot Disk
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/makedisk-old/
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: UNSCSpartan3 on June 14, 2010, 11:35:59 AM
The PC can boot off the network. This feature is in many intel based motherboards.

Support for the Intel® Boot Agent
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/network/bootagent
Look for: Intel® Boot Agent for Intel® Network Adapters
Thu, 29 Apr 2010


Bart's Network Boot Disk
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/makedisk-old/

thats true but how many oem's boot to lan when they install factory os
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: BC_Programmer on June 14, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
thats true but how many oem's boot to lan when they install factory os

None. OEM's don't install windows manually by CD, or any external medium. they image a vast quantity of hard drives using a image they create with the IHV kit.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: Geek-9pm on June 14, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
None. OEM's don't install windows manually by CD, or any external medium. they image a vast quantity of hard drives using a image they create with the IHV kit.
Good answer. Now to bend this thread back to the OP's question.
For some time many users fail to provide some backup plan for their computer.
 
The OEM does little to help. They expect you to read a book or buy some more hardware to do that.  You can buy external backups for the major vendors that provide a way to restore you system in case of a huge failure. Again, the user has to read some of the documentation.

Almost all Desktop PCs now made will boot from a USB device. This is something the user should check before he buys a computer. And the all, or almost all, find a USB keyboard.

In the case of the OP, many suggestions have already been given. Maybe he will come back here and tell us what worked.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: patio on June 14, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
As i stated...let's find out if the machine supports booting to a USB device...if so all that's needed is my link above.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: vidART on July 01, 2010, 08:13:35 PM
Thanks for all the great suggestions. I have filed them away for future reference. Typical 19-yr old, he got impatient and wiped the disk.. reinstalled everything I guess.  Working great again, and he claims there was nothing on there worth sweating over... so. Hopefully he'll do better back-ups from now on.

Love this site!!
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: KB5cmd on July 02, 2010, 12:41:16 PM
curious, after all the suggestions given to you by several people, can you tell us how did he "reinstalled everything "? Please reply, in case we might learn something we don't know!
......
One more thing, you owe it to yourself to make sure whether your PC/laptop can boot from USB. Go to BIOS, and allow "enable legacy devices" (it may have a slightly different wording), then go to Bott options in the BIOS to give it the priority rank you want. Let us know if that option was available to you? If it is, you owe it to yourself to take advantage of it! (but then, you need to make sure no prankster will boot your PC from a bootable USB flashdrive and wreck havoc in it... it's for security that manufacturers usually set USB boot to "off") ).
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Lastly, to be "legal" you're supposed to use the OEM recovery disk for your PC/laptop, so you might want to see if the manufacturer has these available for purchase. Microsoft general rule was that these CD's be included in the original product delivery (some manufacturers got exceptions), but at least they should be available for the customer to buy. Although they are meant to boot and some do wipe everything, they usually allow repair, alternatively.  A real good OS backup to have, for $10-$25.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: patio on July 02, 2010, 02:19:51 PM
Ummm.... there is no "legal" restrictions on re-installing XP...
As long as the machine has a COA any disk can be used as long as the versions match...
Disregard the above Post...
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: KB5cmd on July 02, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
you may disagree as to what Microsoft wants done with the OS, but that was not the main point in my post, which was,  to enable the initial post writer to obtain better use of his machine by enabling USB boot if possible.
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: iONik on July 02, 2010, 03:00:48 PM
Perhaps fpr the future...

http://www.technixupdate.com/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-with-xp-recovery-console-with-usb-recovery-console/ (http://www.technixupdate.com/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-with-xp-recovery-console-with-usb-recovery-console/)
Title: Re: How do I obtain a Windows XP CD that supports Recovery via USb port
Post by: Geek-9pm on July 02, 2010, 06:07:38 PM
Also, there are other ways to do, in effect, the same thing.
If the OP had used one of the many commercial and shareware and free backup utilities available, he would find many that can indeed boot from a USB device.

Also, Windows XP can be installed and re-installed without a CD. Oops, we already said that earlier.