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Title: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 11, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
I've been using Windows 7 pre-beta for a few days, and created a little review, which keeps growing, time permitting.
You can see it here: http://www.smartestcomputing.us.com/index.php?showtopic=34382&st=0

P. S. patio wants to see my reply #28. I hope, I'm not mistaken :D
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: !*~.:Pink Floyd:.~*! on December 11, 2008, 04:08:12 PM
It kind of looks like windows 95 but with the new Vista startbutton.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on December 11, 2008, 07:55:48 PM
....Taskbar looks ugly....

Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 11, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
It kind of looks like windows 95 but with the new Vista startbutton.

not even close.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 11, 2008, 09:17:41 PM
(http://hackersnews.org/hackerhistory/windows95.gif)
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on December 11, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: CBMatt on December 11, 2008, 09:37:39 PM
Ah, those were the days...
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 11, 2008, 09:38:23 PM
OMG... you can get "The Internet"! what an awesome program!
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 11, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
(http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/cms/contentPics/5230453-stardock-b.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 11, 2008, 10:29:17 PM
hey wait a second... that doesn't look right... I don't recall windows 3.1 supporting  label shadows; and it used the system font for all the window titles, not Tahoma for program manager and courier new for group windows.


I'd provide a screenie myself, but I encountered some issues with pbrush; I might do it in the morning but I'm too short on time now.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Dairyman on December 12, 2008, 04:00:09 AM
Wow, that looks so great and the taskbar its--

Darn, I can't fake it.

That is a very horrible and nauseating design in my opinion.

I mean do they really have to make the taskbar 50x bigger with every release? In XP the title bar is almost the size of the taskbar. What if they do the same in Windows 7?

Same goes for the Control Panel. It's like a modern washing machine with 15 different functions when all I want you want to do is WASH YOUR !#%*@$^* CLOTHES!!! And face it, do we need every gradient, shadow and such to entertain our eyes? What's in Windows 7 that's not in XP and that we need?

One more OS, one more font to slow down our boot speeds.

Windows Defender, Windows Firewall on every system.

To me, it's kinda like Vista with more links, more icons and again, more eye candy.

There is one thing I like though, and that's the new WordPad interface. Thumbs up to Microsoft on that one.

Windows XP, Windows 98 and Vista FTMFW!

Apologies if this offended you.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 12, 2008, 05:16:40 PM
No offense. I didn't created it :)

One correction, though
The huge taskbar is caused by default setting to use large icons. Why large icons are default, beats me.
After switching to small icons, all looks normal.

I edited the initial post at my board...
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: !*~.:Pink Floyd:.~*! on December 12, 2008, 05:20:02 PM
Err umm this is kind of Off topic  but what is Network Neighborhood?
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: !*~.:Pink Floyd:.~*! on December 12, 2008, 05:21:47 PM
See why cant they make a nice simple Design like OSX?

(http://www.guistyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/OSX_Tiger_V_by_dobee.jpg)

Nice and simple and probly works with any Wallpaper. (as in looks good)
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 12, 2008, 05:56:32 PM
That's windows.

you're running with a skin.

aside from other proof (the display dialog, etc) I doubt "Windows media player" is available on OS X.

and I'm not sure what you mean by "simple design", since half of what is resident in your screenshot and the skin in particular is just a skin on the same old windows.


heh.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 12, 2008, 06:08:30 PM
How does the "Network Neighborhood"/"My Computer Places" work ?: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/nethood.html
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Dairyman on December 12, 2008, 09:29:39 PM
No offense. I didn't created it :)

One correction, though
The huge taskbar is caused by default setting to use large icons. Why large icons are default, beats me.
After switching to small icons, all looks normal.

I edited the initial post at my board...

Oh... kay.  :-[

Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: iamtonsoffun247 on December 16, 2008, 06:33:17 PM
This is random, but how did u get Windows 7?  I know not the full, but I mean even the pre-beta, where do you get it? I want to try it  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 16, 2008, 07:21:01 PM
<link removed>

Only those approved by Microsoft are allowed to be testing this product (right now as far as I'm aware this is only members of the MSDN). In addition those interested in trying Windows 7 without Microsoft's approval may also wish to view the thread by Evil here (http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,72763.0.html).

My suggestion would be to wait until an open beta or more public release of the product if you're interested in trying it.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: michaewlewis on December 17, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
I would assume that MS increased the size of the task bar and such because more and more people are getting bigger monitors with higher resolutions and they think it won't be that big of a deal to take up a few more pixels. I don't mind having a task bar that is 5 pixels higher if my resolution is 1920x1200.... it only takes up about 2% of the entire screen anyways. The task bar is supposed to be a place where you can find your open programs. You can't find them if you can't see them. :P ;D
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on December 18, 2008, 07:27:11 AM
Quick question: Does it require any serial number or anything?
Currently downloading.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 18, 2008, 11:10:38 AM
Quick question: Does it require any serial number or anything?
Currently downloading.

Yes, you need to be running chrome.

Also have a credit card or bank account number handy.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: patio on December 18, 2008, 01:45:21 PM
This should pit our alternative fuel solution on the map finally......
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Raptor on December 18, 2008, 03:00:23 PM
My tummy hurts.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 18, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Finally, I can see better financial life ;D

michaewlewis
RE: taskbar
I actually edited my original post at http://www.smartestcomputing.us.com/index.php?showtopic=34382&st=0, because I didn't realized at first, that Windows 7 defaults to "large icons". As soon, as I switched to "small icons", the taskbar got normal.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: patio on December 18, 2008, 07:12:19 PM
Normal meaning what ? ? ?
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Broni on December 18, 2008, 08:47:56 PM
Normal width...when I first started Win 7, the taskbar was kinda double-height.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on December 19, 2008, 02:56:17 AM
Beautiful.

Just installed it on my desktop on a spare Hard Drive. It has it's problems, but so far, I would choose it over Vista any day.

Wow....Microsoft is improving.

I am amazed by how little resources it uses and how much hard drive space it takes up.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Dairyman on December 21, 2008, 01:17:22 AM
Actually, now I'm actually excited about Windows 7.

Maybe I'll wait for this version of Windows to come out before I get a new computer.  :)

Thanks Broni for the screenies
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on December 23, 2008, 02:34:35 AM
This was mentioned above in an edit of Broni's post  (removed torrent link) and thought it'd be worth mentioning again for those who may have missed the edit.

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Only those approved by Microsoft are allowed to be testing this product (right now as far as I'm aware this is only members of the MSDN). In addition those interested in trying Windows 7 without Microsoft's approval may also wish to view the thread by Evil here (http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,72763.0.html).

My suggestion would be to wait until an open beta or more public release of the product if you're interested in trying it.

Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: negatlov on December 25, 2008, 08:09:14 AM
good,
thx
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Zylstra on December 27, 2008, 04:18:43 PM
I had tried it out.... I would have done it more extensively if it were not running off a virtual PC.

I made my short little list of things that stood out to me:
http://zylstrablog.co.nr/wordpress/?p=44
(I would just paste it, but, this is an opportunity to get, like, one more visitor who isnt a spam bot!)
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: steven32collins on January 11, 2009, 05:49:37 AM
microsoft are in a big hurry to finnish this version because vista has been a pain in the back to them
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on January 11, 2009, 12:09:37 PM
I had tried it out.... I would have done it more extensively if it were not running off a virtual PC.

I made my short little list of things that stood out to me:
http://zylstrablog.co.nr/wordpress/?p=44
(I would just paste it, but, this is an opportunity to get, like, one more visitor who isnt a spam bot!)

ha! I found a typo!

you said MSpaint was PBRUSH.EXE when in fact it has been MSPAINT.EXE since windows 95 :P
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: Zylstra on January 11, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
I had tried it out.... I would have done it more extensively if it were not running off a virtual PC.

I made my short little list of things that stood out to me:
http://zylstrablog.co.nr/wordpress/?p=44
(I would just paste it, but, this is an opportunity to get, like, one more visitor who isnt a spam bot!)

ha! I found a typo!

you said MSpaint was PBRUSH.EXE when in fact it has been MSPAINT.EXE since windows 95 :P
Run pbrush in command, its the same program  : P
Title: Re: Windows 7 - first look
Post by: BC_Programmer on January 11, 2009, 03:08:58 PM
Run pbrush in command, its the same program  : P

pbrush works, but it just runs mspaint.exe; there is no pbrush.exe anymore

pbrush works simply because of the entry in the ubiquitous App paths key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\pbrush.exe

which makes it an alias for MSPAINT.EXE


basically, I wasn't clear as to what I meant.. you can run pbrush, and I do believe that it's OLE and DDE server names are still PBRUSH, but there is no executable called PBRUSH anymore.