Computer Hope
Software => Computer games => Topic started by: R0SS on April 27, 2006, 02:28:26 PM
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it looks cool but i think i might just give up with Dedicated game consoles.
What about you guys?
R0SS
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I never got a dedicated game console and see no reason to start now.
I. Bugs, bugs, bugs!
Every Xbox or PSx game I've seen that later came out for the PC was loaded with bugs on the console - there would be crashes, corrupted games, freezes, etc., but by the time they came out on the PC, about 75-80% of the bugs were fixed. Patches made after that resolve about 70% of the rest of the bugs. Where are the comparable patches for console games? AFAIK, they don't exist!
II. Features, man
I remember when Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, a good RPG for SW fans, came out on Xbox. I watched a friend play it. Everyone was a bunch of clones! No, not the clones from the Prequel Trilogy, there was just too much recycling of 3D models and skins! It wasn't Attack of the Clones but it sure felt like it. When it came out on the PC, not only were there less clones, there were more side-adventures (mostly bug-free, I might add) to go on!
Now, that's just one game. But there were others - none come to the top of my head ATM, but there were more. Another reason to stick with PC's.
III. Price
Console games tend to be $5-$15 more expensive than their less-bug-ridden feature-enhanced PC counterparts. 'Nuff said.
On a more personal level: Computers, unlike consoles, can be easily understood. If something major is going wrong, I can pop open the case, look inside, and almost immediately see what to test, what to fix, what to replace. And PC's can be upgraded. If the game is lagging I can go upgrade my memory or my video card. Consoles? AFAIK only God and the makers of the console know what's inside it and how to fix a hardware issue.
Sorry if I come across a bit harsh, but i've never gotten the point of consoles.
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I won't be buying anything of the sort. I'm a PC gamer ;D Price is going to be an issue too. If the PS2 is still about $200, imagine this new system... I'm not paying that price for what it is...
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Yep.. build your own PC and it will own any new console graphically and pretty much in every category..
In my mind, it goes like this..
Macs > Consoles > Onions on my burgers > PC
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You just placed PCs in last place... sorry to nitpick. ;D
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Xbox 360 is much better than PS3 by far. There is no way Playstation HUB is going to match up to Xbox Live. The PS3 runs only 50 mhz faster than 360 and the 360 has 256 eram. Also, they don't have any good launch titles coming out. I would put 360 on top of PC though just because I enjoy console gaming.
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Good Poll guys and good job in telling me what you think about the PS3
I agree with everything that you said.
R0SS
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I like PC grapgics more. It depends on the card. If you keep-up with things, your card will easily own compared to the game system as Tien said. Computers make thse consoles... They're better...
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You just placed PCs in last place... sorry to nitpick. ;D
Haha! so I did.. Maybe this is why I suck at math.. :-[
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Join the club :P I don't use math with computers. Streetsmarts and studies ;D
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I think that PS3 might have a better performance and graphic than an Xbox 360 well you never know, that why they are coming out late because they might be improving it. The japanese people know that ps2 is more rubbish then xbox 360 so they will try to out match the microsoft company.
I dont know what to say but when halo 3 comes out at the same time as PS3 and ps3 are more powerfull than xboox360 than the xbox price must goes down to know ps3 back, the think is i wouldent know which one to buy?
Cheap xbox with halo3 or a powerfull ps3 console
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"The japanese people know that ps2 is more rubbish then xbox 360 so they will try to out match the microsoft company. "
Umm dude what are you talking about, the Japanese LOVE Sony.. Did you even read up on the news about the Xbox360's piling up over there? They barely even touched the Xbox the past years.. I don't think that trend would likely change soon. Oh and their graphic cards are about the same, they utilize the 7800GTX and it's really up to the devs of the games on how to use it to their full potential. (I'd also like to note that the PC comes on top once again, as we can utilize TWO 7900GTX's in SLI and totally kill the console competition, at a price however.. blah)
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"The japanese people know that ps2 is more rubbish then xbox 360 so they will try to out match the microsoft company. "
Umm dude what are you talking about, the Japanese LOVE Sony.. Did you even read up on the news about the Xbox360's piling up over there? They barely even touched the Xbox the past years.. I don't think that trend would likely change soon. Oh and their graphic cards are about the same, they utilize the 7800GTX and it's really up to the devs of the games on how to use it to their full potential. (I'd also like to note that the PC comes on top once again, as we can utilize TWO 7900GTX's in SLI and totally kill the console competition, at a price however.. blah)
Of course Japan loves sony. Japan is the only thing that sony has right now. Xbox Live owns ALL online services, and ps3 will never amount to what the microsoft corp. has gotten from xbox live. Graphicky wise, PS3 isn't going to win with in-game graphics, we all know how good they are with movies, but they are just movies. Also, PS3 doesn't have any good launch titles anyways. PS3 has a slim chance jsut because of rumors. Hmmmmm, seems a lot like ps2.....
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I won't be buying anything of the sort. I'm a PC gamer ;D Price is going to be an issue too. If the PS2 is still about $200, imagine this new system... I'm not paying that price for what it is...
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Yea, even though I have a 360, PS3 might be $500, without the blu-ray.
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I think that PS3 might have a better performance and graphic than an Xbox 360 well you never know, that why they are coming out late because they might be improving it. The japanese people know that ps2 is more rubbish then xbox 360 so they will try to out match the microsoft company.
I dont know what to say but when halo 3 comes out at the same time as PS3 and ps3 are more powerfull than xboox360 than the xbox price must goes down to know ps3 back, the think is i wouldent know which one to buy?
Cheap xbox with halo3 or a powerfull ps3 console
I don't even like Halo, and I still pick xbox over playstation. Name me one title with less than 3 sequels on playstation and then talk about halo. This game has a deep story (Halo 2 single player still sucked) and the online rules. Also, OF COURSE A NEXT-GEN CONSOLE IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN A CURRENT-GEN CONSOLE. Again, all PS3 is doing is what they did with that crap of a system PS2, build up a bunch of played out rumors that the japanese and the few idiotic americans listen too.
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The graphics that I've previewed look exactly the same as PS2, what's the point? Money, money, money...
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No they aren't, the GPU in the PS2 has 4 Pixel Pipelines and 4 vertex shaders.
The PS3 has 16 and 16... HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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yeh yeh, they looked the same to me :P. Not a big enough difference for me to pay that sort of price. I'd rather get a new PC or even just pay £200 for a new graphics card and stick with my PS2! The only reason I'd get the next gen is for the next Silent Hill game (cos I can't play em on PC, Im a retard when it come to keyboard controls)... I'm a Silent Hill addict! I hold my hands up (and I saw the film, and it was fab, so nur!)
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hah, you think like me and flame here when it comes to new consoles! :)
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If the price drops down so that poor people can afford it to then I will buy one.
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I know everyone is going to hate me but i am going to be the first in line when it comes out. and psp is awsomw aswell i have it. its games are small u can choose its memory size and upgrade it. it has internet and can watch. as a matter of fact i wrote some of my messages on it to this forum...well not this topic i have like 1 gb of music 2 full length movies and like saved games ect. i dont care what anyone says!
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Dont talk to me about PSP !!...Bought one for my son thinking Hed have ongoing fun for a few years...WRONG...AT moment in AUST... there are only 20 odd games on sale AUST$80 approx...( only 2-3 that he WANTS to play !!!).....THINKING I could have bought a TOP END mobile phone for the price THINKING Ive been ripped off down here as NO SUPPORT !!!...anyone else have opinion ????...(thinking its going the way of GAMEGEAR) remember that one ??
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I agree man its over rated over priced crap! Still im probably saying that because i cant afford one.
R0SS
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Haha rat ;D
It's true, the PSP is pointless, along with the Nintendo one and others...
What is the point of buying something expencive that is only half decent!?
I like the idea of handheld games for journeys etc... play a little sonic or super mario or whatever.
But spending big money on something that is TRYING to be a powerful is completely pointless. Sure it's clever is squash all that power in one small hand held computer.
But is it really worth spending all that money just to say "WOW, isen't that clever how it's in 3D and so small!"
Arfter the "WOW" factor has gone you will get bored of it and want to play the real thing on a consol/PC
In my opinion hand held video games should go back to basics and be sold £10 each!
Leave the expencive and up to date technology to the big machines!
Really no point of buying something inbetween
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Personally i' starting recently to swing more towards having a decent PC than an uptodate console, much easier to solve problems. And plus condsoles are now just getting rediculously high priced! i thought the XBOX360 was bad with games for £50! i been reading up on the PS3 and supposedly the RRP of most games is over £80!! (don't no the american equivelant jst know that its stuidly expensive!
Can't wait to get me new PC can finally get sum high graphic games!
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What will you spend on a high end PC with a high end graphics card? More than $399 I'll bet. ;)
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Well i won't be spendin dollars but the ps3 rrp in britain is £500, and i can get together a high-end pc together for £495, so i conclude PC as well as being better than consoles are also cheaper if you know the right suppliers. (Not including illegal sellers)
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My PC is medium-high-end, but it was about 1,200 USD, or about 651 pounds. I would need a substantially better video card to consider my machine high-end, and a video card I
like drool over... well, nvidia.com doesn't list a price, but with 1 GB of memory, a GeForce 7950 GX2 is probably pretty expensive.
So, the chance of you getting a kick-arse computer that cheap is about nil. Sorry. :'(
EDIT: 650 USD
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i just got a crazy good computer about a month ago, so i dont think ill get either PS3 or XBOX360. besides, the XBOX360 is like an on-going investment. i cant comment on the PS3 tho (because its not out yet duh!) , but i have a feeling that thier console is also going to be an on-going investment.
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In australia the ps3 is said to be priced at around $900AUD. if i had that much to spend on upgrading my pc i would have a computer owning the ps3 3 times over!
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It seem many people does not agree on buying a PS3
Try this out for a Ps3 graphics better than anyother games graphics
http://www.ps3rules.com/2-days-vegas-ss1.htm
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i thikn the ps3 not gunna do so hot over here cause i mean anyone who could afford one probably got a 360. and i cant get either, but all the prices are gunna drop i thik when the wii comes out. there are allot more parents who are going to buy nintendo for their younger kids, and adults who are gunna want to play all the old games (which are far superior to any new ones) so maybe when you know the ps5.5 comes out with the xbox 720 ill get a 360 or a ps3 but nowadays ts all about the monwy for the companys, id just as much enjoy playing super mario world on my snes as oblivion on the 360.
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OMG! those screenshots look Amazing!
Right im getting one now then!
BEST THING EVER!
R0SS
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If that is actually the real screen shot of ps3 games than PS3 will have the better graphics than xbox360
to be fair that is the beast of a graphics
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those graphics are insane.... i will probably invest in a ps3 but not until the first or second price drop...
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those graphics are insane.... i will probably invest in a ps3 but not until the first or second price drop...
...also the first or second time they fix the bugs... :P
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hey if thats the PS3 think what the PS6 will be like!!!!!!!!!
LOL!
R0SS
(better go to bed now its like 3am why am i on the computer?)
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I'll buy a PS3 a year or so after launch date, Then all the problems will be fixed and there will be cheap games, Also the console will be a lot cheaper!!
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I have a Xbox 360 now,and i must say it is amazing but i will also be getting a ps3 aswell as soon as it is released, tho i am much more of an xbox fan and i do believe the xbox is better.
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Some of you Guys seem to be a little confused,
I am Both a PC and Console Gamer.
I just Bought a PC for 1700 Euro, that will be out of date this time next year, so as for cost the 600Euro i spent on the 360 that will work for 3 - 5 years, is money better spent.
As for Graphics , Consoles will aways Beat PC for Performance Have any of you Played Black on the Xbox, look pretty Sweet right.(Crap game tho) But thats on a Geforce2 Clocked up a bit , My Geforce 5 could barely Play Morrowind, Yet my Xbox it flew along.
And i could have bought 2 xboxes for the Price i payed for the GFX card.
As for The Bug's in Consoles That more a Recent Thing , since consoles went online company's have been doing what PC game company's have been doing for year's , and that's saying its good enough , Ship it now , we'll fix it in a patch. PC game still come out with more Bugs.
And then there compatibility. on an Xbox put in the disk and Play , on a PC Well it not always that simple is it?
I will Buy a PS3 , i think Sony are Evil and i will Still Buy it , do you know why?
Its case i wana play My FF games!!!
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I am now stepping into a cold place, the "Games" section....
Never really been here before, except for once....
As Dilbert said, bugs.... and price....
Its way out of my price range! I wouldn't mind it as a gift, but really, I have heard so many things from my friend who likes to act like he knows everything on earth. (and can be a bit of a jerk at times) Likely, hes not here :D
And now I realize that you are talking about the regular PlayStation, not the PSP.... :o
I haven't had any problems with the PS2.
None really at all.
Except for this one game, I am stuck with a mission that I have already finished.
("SHOOT THE PLATFORM, JACK!" LET ME KILL YOU, JACK!)
But the main problem would be price. Everything is out of my price range until I get a job and stop being a tightwad.
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it looks cool but i think i might just give up with Dedicated game consoles.
What about you guys?
R0SS
ME TOO* with the advance tech in graphic cards why bother with game consoles? I have PS2 I think thats my last purchase until they release
the HOLADEX- (star-track ;-o) experience!!!
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It seem many people does not agree on buying a PS3
Try this out for a Ps3 graphics better than anyother games graphics
http://www.ps3rules.com/2-days-vegas-ss1.htm
ummmm ~ WOW!!! well maybe I just might have to wait and see... thats too much!!