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Title: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 11, 2008, 01:50:22 PM
Hello all,

Just curious if anyone has any knowledge or insight about an issue that I am having.

First off, my specs are

Windows XP Pro SP3
Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
2.79GHz, 1.99 GB of RAM
The motherboard model is an 8187-E3U Ibm ThinkCentre

I have this ati Radeon 9250 PCI card I would like to use in here, but whenever I put it into any of the PCI slots It posts  as such

"One Long and Three Short Beeps.     Video (EGA) Display Circuitry."
(taken from http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm#06)

Anyways, this card is decent, or rather I should say it's much better than the onboard video I'm using here.

Other things to note, I updated the BIOS on the MOBO and still no such luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: squall_01 on November 12, 2008, 10:49:16 AM
have you tired another card an make sure thats its not the MB? 
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 13, 2008, 08:17:43 PM
heh, I wish I had another card to test in there.  I do have one, but it's at my ex's house...D'oh!

on a positive note though, my roomate tested the card in his PC and everything worked dandy for him.

I thinkin this IBM mobo just sucks!

Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: joefido on November 13, 2008, 11:16:42 PM
Did you disable onboard video in BIOS?
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 13, 2008, 11:25:25 PM
Honestly, I don't even think there is an option to do so.

This IBM bios kinda blows.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: joefido on November 13, 2008, 11:47:10 PM
If the MoBo is able to accept an add-in Video card, than there should be a way in BIOS to disable the on-board video. If not, than you can't run an add on card with the on-board enabled. Your MoBo is not a Hybrid.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: joefido on November 13, 2008, 11:48:18 PM
btw, what brand i sthe computer?
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 12:04:36 AM
Quote
Windows XP Pro SP3
Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
2.79GHz, 1.99 GB of RAM
The motherboard model is an 8187-E3U Ibm ThinkCentre
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: ehye on November 14, 2008, 12:17:16 AM
9250 Radeon is for AGP/ATI MOBO compatible Only..

is 8187 E3U IBM motherboard is AGP 8x Ready? or Not?

if its ready, try to un installed the old Video card driver first before u install the Radeon!
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 12:19:41 AM
9250 Radeon is for AGP/ATI MOBO compatible Only..

is 8187 E3U IBM motherboard is AGP 8x Ready? or Not?

if its ready, try to un installed the old Video card driver first before u install the Radeon!

This ATI Radeon is a PCI card though?

In the bios there is an option for AGP graphics aperture or something of the sort, and in those options it lets me go up to 256mb (which this card is) But alas, it's merely a PCI card, not AGP.

So again, I'm starting to think either this card isn't compatible, or this mobo only accepts AGP cards?
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: joefido on November 14, 2008, 12:21:20 AM
your MoBo has an AGP slot. If you use a Video Card w/an AGP interface it may automaticaly disable the on-board video. PCI might not be compatible w/MoBo.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: joefido on November 14, 2008, 12:25:55 AM
Found this info on the Lenovo website ..
Some system boards ship with the AGP slot disabled and plugged. These slots have been disabled at the chipset level and do not work. The plugs should not be removed.
Some AGP adapters use a retaining clip, which must be moved to one side to prevent damage when removing the adapter.
Setting the video resolution to 640x480x16 colors in Device Manager is not the same as changing the hardware to a VGA adapter. You must change the adapter selection from the installed adapter, i.e. ATI, nVidia, or Matrox, to a standard VGA adapter in the Display Properties dialog box.
Some Intel chipsets uses Dynamic Video Memory technology (DVMT) for video memory. The initial memory count can indicate less than expected system memory count.
Click here to learn more about DVMT.
Signal cable extensions and keyboard, video, mouse (KVM) switches are not supported.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4Y6LGT
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 12:27:34 AM
Right right.

that's what I'm thinking.

This mobo does indeed have an AGP slot.

again, I may just have to splurge and get a new card.  I don't do much on here as far as gaming, I've got a Wii, xbox 360, etc at my disposal.   My major problem is I can tell this onboard video is a bit glitchy even when scrolling through web pages and I guess I just don't like it!

I do a lot of photoshopping as well, and it seems to perform a bit slow.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 12:28:58 AM
Found this info on the Lenovo website ..
Some system boards ship with the AGP slot disabled and plugged. These slots have been disabled at the chipset level and do not work. The plugs should not be removed.
Some AGP adapters use a retaining clip, which must be moved to one side to prevent damage when removing the adapter.
Setting the video resolution to 640x480x16 colors in Device Manager is not the same as changing the hardware to a VGA adapter. You must change the adapter selection from the installed adapter, i.e. ATI, nVidia, or Matrox, to a standard VGA adapter in the Display Properties dialog box.
Some Intel chipsets uses Dynamic Video Memory technology (DVMT) for video memory. The initial memory count can indicate less than expected system memory count.
Click here to learn more about DVMT.
Signal cable extensions and keyboard, video, mouse (KVM) switches are not supported.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4Y6LGT

Rewind, am I gathering there is a "physical" switch here?
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: squall_01 on November 14, 2008, 09:18:02 AM
It dont matter if its pci or not as long as its bios disabled for the on board.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 10:34:09 AM
Sadly, my bios doesn't give me an option to disable the onboard...d'oh!

or maybe I am missing it, but I've looked up and down through that Bios.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: patio on November 14, 2008, 10:42:03 AM
That probably means it is automatically disabled when a card is installed...a lot of MBoards do this.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: Urkeytay on November 14, 2008, 01:15:12 PM
Instead of keeping the default PCI selected in the BIOS, I chose integrated (with the ati card in)  Everything booted up ok...hardware manager in windows seen the card, I installed the drivers.  Went back into the BIOS and chose PCI.  Same thing

and it was one long beep, and two short beeps..and nothing comes up on my display

Quote
One Long and Two Short Beeps     Video (Mono/CGA Display Circuitry) issue.

*censored* I feel like I'm so close now!!!!!
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: squall_01 on November 17, 2008, 10:17:51 AM
try takeing the card out an putting it back in everything now is pnp plug an play it should config its self for the most part.
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: brett74 on November 17, 2008, 10:25:27 AM
are you using a agp card or a pci card cause a agp card will not fit into a pci slot and pci card will not fit into a agp slot I would also use the agp slot
Title: Re: Video Card Compatibility Issue?!
Post by: squall_01 on November 17, 2008, 10:28:01 AM
if you checked his experince I'm sure he nows which it is besides unless you force it, it wont fit.