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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: Sirwhinesalot on February 18, 2010, 02:19:21 PM

Title: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on February 18, 2010, 02:19:21 PM
I have a windows xp desktop,  givin to me, it was DOA,   replaced motherboard,new memory stick.
Power up the machine, fans all run, green light is lit on motherboard.
I cannot seem to get it to start and give me a screen to work with.
A red light is on, on the front of the machine, green light does not come on.
How do i by a process of elimination find the problem?      If i plug in the cd rom drive the lights come on  but cant open the door unless i disconnect the grey ribbon cable then it opens.
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Salmon Trout on February 18, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
Assuming that the memory is compatible with the motherboard, you only have the power supply and the processor left. Replace the cheaper item first. If the PC now works, you got lucky. If it doesn't, and you then buy the other item, by now you have a new PC in an old case. I hope it wasn't a Dell, and you put a non-Dell motherboard in there?



Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on February 18, 2010, 04:19:12 PM
I replaced the motherboard with the same exact model that was in it. No it was not a Dell.
I now have another Hard drive coming.
If the power supply was bad, what would the symptoms be. It seems that all of the (Hotwires are hot)
i can hook  the cd  drive up it has power, also the a drive has power and so does the hard drive. 
I just cant get it through  to the video so the screen will come up.
Thanks for your help!!!!
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: xavier on February 18, 2010, 06:00:52 PM
Recheck all the power connections to the board
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on February 22, 2010, 10:34:34 AM
Replaced the hard drive. still have the same problem. No screen. How can the power supply be bad if the fans are running mother board has green light. All the power leads are  live??   Any Suggestions?
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 22, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
How can the power supply be bad if the fans are running mother board has green light. All the power leads are  live??

The motherboard and other circuitry is a lot more intolerant of deviant voltages then a fan or LED.
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Computer_Commando on February 22, 2010, 11:58:07 AM
...How can the power supply be bad if the fans are running mother board has green light. All the power leads are  live??   Any Suggestions?
That only accounts for 2 voltages (fans are +12VDC, green light is +5V, Standby).  That leaves +3.3V, +5V.
http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/ATX_Pinout
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on February 22, 2010, 01:36:26 PM
Okay Gentleman, I will heed your input and advise, Much appreciated.    So you promise this is the last thing i will have to buy before  I  tie it to the back of my F350 and drag it?
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: patio on February 22, 2010, 03:33:25 PM
No promises...but i like the idea,
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 04, 2010, 03:54:14 PM
 >:(  Power supply has been installed, most definitely was one of the problems,  Machine powers up. Gives 3 beeps, still nothing on the screen to work with.   So far everything has been replaced. I even tried the old mother board, the old hard drive old memory  and still gives me 3 beeps.  Its not going past the self test is it?  Whats my next move guys,   the tow rope is laying next to it,  that will be my next option
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: truenorth on March 04, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
While it has been determined that your problem computer is NOT a Dell we still do not know what it IS. Beeps vary from computer to computer so that can be important to enable what the beeps are telling you. Here is a link to a beep analyzer site that may help you. http://en.kioskea.net/faq/344-how-to-recognize-beep-errors.
By the way i don't know if a Ford 350 will be adequate for the job--might want to borrow a GM 250. goodluck ,truenorth
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Computer_Commando on March 04, 2010, 04:56:46 PM
...So far everything has been replaced...
Please define "everything".  You must be using one of the original components.
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 05, 2010, 05:57:56 AM
By everything I mean,  All components are replaced with  different ones.  Used power supply, used hard drive, used motherboard.  New Ram memory from best buy. These components are duplicates to what was  originally in the machine.  The only Identification on the shell of the  machine is NOBILIS. windows XP home edition .  By different I mean I bought all new/ used stuff from other people.  From Ebay, which I have never been soaked yet. I purchase many things from others.    I am not useing anything that originally was in it.  I thin the power supply and motherboard were definitely some of the issues.
I was going to give up but now its a challenge that I cant back down from.   With the help of You Smart people I am confident that  this thin g will not kick my A%$.
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: patio on March 05, 2010, 08:50:30 AM
Are you sure the new RAM is what that MBoard takes ? ?
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 05, 2010, 09:44:20 AM
Yes I bought the same part number as the original one.   I also put the old one back in same result, 3 beeps. I disconnected all unnecessary  parts.  (a drive ,cd rom    allplugs in the back .
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: truenorth on March 05, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
For whatever benefit it may serve.Here is a link to the manufacturer of your computer. Given that you have replaced parts with identical parts (of course we cannot know what may have been altered prior to you getting it) it may help you to compare what is now in it with what was originally in it. truenorth
http://www.mscwells.net/
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 05, 2010, 01:32:54 PM
THAT site did not tell me anything.
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Computer_Commando on March 05, 2010, 01:35:30 PM
...I am not useing anything that originally was in it. ...
Too many variables, so it's time to start over.   Your goal is to get to the BIOS and see it on the monitor.  You need only power supply, motherboard, cpu, cpu fan, 1 RAM stick,  keyboard, graphics card (unless it has onboard graphics).
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 05, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
I have tried almost everything i know.  Which is not much.     I would believe that the graphics card is on the motherboard.  i dont ever remember seeing one in any of the 4 open slots.      I pulled everything off at one time it still beeped.     
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: truenorth on March 06, 2010, 07:54:59 AM
What the site i gave you DID tell you was :
1.Who your computer mfg. is.
2.Where they are.
3. Most importantly how to communicate with them.
  The latter might be helpfull if you want to try and ascertain what was in the computer ORIGIALLY (given you are not the original owner and cannot be sure what changes have been made to it). Particularly important as from your original post YOU have NEVER yet seen it running properly. I personally would be very interested to know what the original RAM modules were. The ones you replaced were not necessarily what was 1st in it. truenorth
P.S. I just went back and examined the manufacturers web site again and as i went further into it. Something you too can certainly do. I found that by advancing to the "Shop now" page a great number of their computers,etc are able to be accessed. If you see your model amongst them you can further go deeper and get a full description as to what it contains (including ram.chipset.etc.etc.)
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 08, 2010, 10:50:29 AM
I only have the power supply  mother board cpu and fan,  a keyboard and mouse attached. still have green light on the face to show its on but still beeps. 
Title: Re: Reviving the dead
Post by: Sirwhinesalot on March 15, 2010, 06:09:41 AM
Much to my dismay, I believe you gentlemen are right. The used motherboard i bought is no-good. And with much patients  I cannot get a response from the person I bought it from.  My next coarse of action is to find a working one, or do you recommend  sending the original  out for a repair. Or can anyone of you repair it?
Thanks