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Other => Other => Topic started by: Helpmeh on March 12, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
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There is an absolutely disgusting website I was tricked into going to last night (full to the brim with pedophilia, racial slurrs and many other things I can't even begin to repeat) in a way not much different than being "Rickrolled". The website has moved me in such a way that I can't just sit here doing nothing while the site exists.
I just need some information as to how I can take this site down, petition, contacting ISPs, etc.
I will provide a link in a PM upon request, but posting it here is actually (I'm pretty sure) a ban-able offence.
Oh, just a side-note for those who call 4chan the ***hole of the Internet, if this site was the ***hole of the Internet than 4chan would be a toddler-forum in comparison.
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https://tips.fbi.gov/
You need to find out what country to site is located in first.
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I'm curious to know what site it is. Maybe I'm a member.
Seriously, though...like kpac said, a first step would be finding out the country of origin. Depending on the country and the degree of the content, the site could be within legal limits.
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Well here is the WHOIS (minus the site):
DOMAIN: ________.COM
RSP: domaindiscount24.com
URL: http://www.dd24.net
owner-contact: P-KCA393
owner-fname: Kimmo
owner-lname: Alm
owner-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
owner-city: Stockholm
owner-zip: 12953
owner-country: SE
owner-phone: 0737778461
owner-email:
admin-contact: P-KCA393
admin-fname: Kimmo
admin-lname: Alm
admin-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
admin-city: Stockholm
admin-zip: 12953
admin-country: SE
admin-phone: 0737778461
admin-email:
tech-contact: P-KCA393
tech-fname: Kimmo
tech-lname: Alm
tech-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
tech-city: Stockholm
tech-zip: 12953
tech-country: SE
tech-phone: 0737778461
tech-email:
billing-contact: P-KCA393
billing-fname: Kimmo
billing-lname: Alm
billing-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
billing-city: Stockholm
billing-zip: 12953
billing-country: SE
billing-phone: 0737778461
billing-email:
nameserver: ns.prq.se
nameserver: ns2.prq.se
So, the site is located in Sweden and the content is not within legal limits (of pretty much any modern country)...so what government agency in Sweden is in charge of removing child pornography?
CBMatt, you are DEFINITELY NOT a member on this site.
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Did you research the so called legal limits of the Country of Sweden ? ?
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Depending on the country and the degree of the content, the site could be within legal limits.
If they are actually illegal then contacting the ISP is usually enough to have a website taken down.
It didn't take much to figure out you probably "found" this website on one of the anonymous type websites. You do know that viewing child pornography alone is illegal. The "i didn't know" excuse will not hold water in court.
I'm just saying....
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http://www.domaindiscount24.net/?js=1&page=about_contact
http://www.domaindiscount24.net/?js=1&page=about_terms
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If they are actually illegal then contacting the ISP is usually enough to have a website taken down.
It didn't take much to figure out you probably "found" this website on one of the anonymous type websites. You do know that viewing child pornography alone is illegal. The "i didn't know" excuse will not hold water in court.
I'm just saying....
"(Internet slang) (transitive) (neologism) To coax one into clicking on a hyperlink which leads to something other than what is claimed, originating with YouTube videos of Rick Astley's song Never Gonna Give You Up."
@Patio,
I was fairly sure child pornography was illegal in pretty much every country which is "modernized". "and Sweden eventually recriminalized child pornography in 1980,"
I did a little bit of research on the site and I am not the only one who was offended by the content of the site. Apparently, the site has had more than one ISP (after being dropped), so the owner obviously knows exactly what he is doing and that it is wrong. I think the only solution is to alert the Swedish government and stop the problem at the source.
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You might want to run a couple of full AV scans to be certain you didn't pick up a "visitor" when you clicked the link to the page in question.....
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Some Internet Services Providers do limit or restrict some known web sites. But they may inadvertently be breaking the law by blocking a website without just cause. One of my websites got on a blacklist and I hard to tear it down and wait awhile before it was allowed back on. I do not know to this day what is was they did not like about it. The website was in development and had many pages of gibberish as place holders in page layouts.
In no way was it a porn site. I would like to see them all banned. Freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to put offensive material in plain public view.
The should be a legal way to prevent porn sites from "pushing" there way into your browser by deception. Perhaps new legislation is needed. Maybe requirement that the site has to identify TRASH in a summary page that can be parsed by your local ISP. If complaints are recived and it becomes clear taht hte web site breasks the rule, then it would be legal to ban for failure to clearly identify restricted content. Yes, it can be done.
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My advice would be to contact the proper authorities...and the ISP.
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My advice would be to contact the proper authorities...and the ISP.
Yes, Patio is right on. Let those in power know what you find.
I was going to make a long rant on this, but that does little good.
The people in law-enforcement need our help.
Deputies Look for Child Porn, Find Marijuana
http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/87419657.html
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The 'Anonymous' hacking group has had a go at this site I believe. The site itself is shutdown now.
You can search for it on, for the details about the owner and site and what happened,
if it's the same one I'm thinking , it's from the same person, Lina Sandells:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com
I'll leave out the url too incase it is still up somehow, I didn't check it myself.
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What's wrong with Encyclopedia Dramatica? It's a little OTT, but that's the internet for you.
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Okay, I'm pretty sure I know the site in question. Is it a BBS site? If I am thinking of the right site, then I don't believe it is illegal. Even by US law, a lot of the content is within legal limits, much like NAMBLA. You can certainly report the site if you want to, but it is already well-known and as far as I am aware, it is not currently breaking the law.
Of course, this is only assuming that I am thinking of the correct site (which doesn't even compare to 4chan, in my opinion). I'm sending a PM your way so I can verify.
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Encyclopedia Dramatica is like a poor mans Unencyclopedia :)
What's wrong with Encyclopedia Dramatica? It's a little OTT, but that's the internet for you.
Well, probably nothing wrong with the site, think he's saying they have the same owner.
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Hahah, BC_Programmer...
No nothing is wrong with 'encyclopediadramatica', I meant for them to do a search on there to find information about the actual site:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anontalk.com
The site is taken down, so the link is pretty safe now. Go hackers 'Anonymous' Group. Those are some funny, crazy guys you don't want to mess with and done some insane stuff in the past! Hackers leak all personal details onto a site for anyone else to attack. Addresses, phone numbers, emails, msn, social networks, along with their passwords and sometimes bank details, etc, anything and everything they can. It gets really out of hand depending who uses it, defacing websites, facebook, even visiting the person...
Look up Anonymous on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY
Lina Sandells, the site owner, life will be destory over and over by 1000s even millions of people.
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Oh, we know all about Anonymous here at CH. ;)
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Oh, we know all about Anonymous here at CH. ;)
I almost forgot about that, actually. Probably because I only caught the tail-end of that experience.
lol, so true. Although I think he was just a poser.
I remember "Homer" mentioning either he was or used to be a member of Anon; and that the Anon/Annon whoever guy was just some pretender. Come to think of it I haven't seen Homer post in ages.
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Did you research the so called legal limits of the Country of Sweden ? ?
Pedophilia doesn't break the legal limits in Sweden?
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Pedophilia doesn't break the legal limits in Sweden?
First, there is a difference between pedophilia and child pornography. Pedophilia is considered a disorder and many countries have no laws against having said disorder, including the U.S. Actually acting upon the urges, however, is another story. And until somewhat recently, child pornography wasn't illegal in Sweden (same goes for engaging in *censored* acts; the current age of consent is 15). Even now, it is only illegal to partake in it, I believe. As far as I can tell, looking at it is not illegal and won't be until June or July of this year.
But one thing to keep in mind is that the web site Helpmeh is referring to may not be considered child pornography. If it is the site I am thinking of, then it indeed is not considered pornography because no *censored* acts are depicted (at least not when I took a look). I personally do not support the content, but it is perfectly legal in the U.S. as well as many other countries. Of course, I have no verification yet if the site I am thinking of is the same one that Helpmeh found.
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Okay, I'm pretty sure I know the site in question. Is it a BBS site? If I am thinking of the right site, then I don't believe it is illegal. Even by US law, a lot of the content is within legal limits, much like NAMBLA. You can certainly report the site if you want to, but it is already well-known and as far as I am aware, it is not currently breaking the law.
Of course, this is only assuming that I am thinking of the correct site (which doesn't even compare to 4chan, in my opinion). I'm sending a PM your way so I can verify.
Yes, you got the site right. And if it's not breaking the law, I sure don't want to see which sites ARE breaking the law.
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Here is my option. And I think this reflects the ideas of others.
There should be a law that every web site must provide a keyword list and summary of content type. Harmful or dubious content must be identified.
Any site that fails to correctly identify bad content can be put on a black list. The web site can not take legal action toward DNS service for putting the site on a black list if the site failed to identify a sighnificant harmfull content.
Under present laws, Google, AIL or Ope DNS and similar services could be the target of a lawsuit when they block porn sites
I hope this is understood. Just make it legal to black ball any site that files to identify harmful content. Is that so difficult?
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Even now, it is only illegal to partake in it, I believe. As far as I can tell, looking at it is not illegal and won't be until June or July of this year.
So it's not okay to do something corrupt but it's ok to look at pictures of it? So, by this idea, it's okay to watch someone get raped but it's not okay to do it yourself. Makes perfect sense, go sweden.
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Yes, you got the site right. And if it's not breaking the law, I sure don't want to see which sites ARE breaking the law.
So your crusade has ended then ? ?
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So it's not okay to do something corrupt but it's ok to look at pictures of it? So, by this idea, it's okay to watch someone get raped but it's not okay to do it yourself. Makes perfect sense, go sweden.
There's a huge difference between watching something and looking at pictures of it.
Yes, you got the site right. And if it's not breaking the law, I sure don't want to see which sites ARE breaking the law.
You're right, you don't want to see them. Sadly, there are a lot of these illegal sites out there and they seem to be hard to take down. I'm aware of a handful that have been reported numerous times and yet they are still online after well over a year. The BBS you found is fairly tame by comparison. There is certainly a chance that illegal photos get posted now and then, but most of the photos posted are not considered pornographic and are legal in many countries (as long as *censored* acts aren't being betrayed, they can label it as "art"). The biggest issue with the site is what the people say on that site, but they are free to say it. If it is any consolation, I suspect that at least 80% of the users on the site aren't serious and are merely examples of the Greater Internet F-wad Theory.
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You do know that viewing child pornography alone is illegal.
really? If you come across a web page with that kind of content by accident, does that still count?
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really? If you come across a web page with that kind of content by accident, does that still count?
How your necessarily prove that you accidently went on the webpage?
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How your necessarily prove that you accidently went on the webpage?
How does anybody else prove it was on purpose?
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Was about to say...
The website is also known for spamming various chan image boards.
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So your crusade has ended then ? ?
If it isn't illegal, I can't do much to stop it...freedom of speech and all that... :(
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Curse the Second Amendment (in the U.S) and the (way way better, btw) Fundamental Freedoms given by Section 2 in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms! :P... Or maybe we should curse the Constitution act that introduced it...
You heard me, the Canadian Charter of Rights of Freedoms actually gives Canadians "freer" speech then Americans. HAHAHA!... Although I think the notwithstanding clause added with the Kitchen Accord might make them more or less even.
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What does America give, freedom of 'selective' speech, say the wrong thing and the goverment won't do a thing, but 100,000,000 big Americas would be sent to sort it out! ;D
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With freedom of speech there is also responsibility.
By law, there are some things you are not allowed to say.
You can not incite a riot.
You can not give military secrets to the enemy.
An attorney can not divulge the confidential information of a client.
And even Medical Doctors can not share some medical information without onset of the patient.
If you hack into he school computer and give out the test answers you will be held countable.
In the Army a gay can not tell everybody about his *censored* nature.
The list goes on...
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With freedom of speech there is also responsibility.
By law, there are some things you are not allowed to say.
You can not incite a riot.
You can not give military secrets to the enemy.
An attorney can not divulge the confidential information of a client.
And even Medical Doctors can not share some medical information without onset of the patient.
If you hack into he school computer and give out the test answers you will be held countable.
In the Army a gay can not tell everybody about his *censored* nature.
The list goes on...
This is just from Wikipedia, and obviously there are REAL limitations to this:
the First Amendment to the United States Constitution makes the entire country an unrestricted free speech zone.[42]
However, The Department of Homeland Security "has even gone so far as to tell local police departments to regard critics of the War on Terrorism as potential terrorists themselves."