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Title: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 24, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
Hi,
I just bought an acer notebook (for travelling) which has 1GB of RAM. Task manager tells me that total physical memory is 746, cashed is 210, available is 208 and free is 1. Does this mean I actually have 1MB of memory to use? What happened to the other 278MB?
Regards
Geoffl
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: patio on September 24, 2011, 06:13:51 PM
Task manager has never been good at reporting RAM...
You're RAM is where it is...
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 24, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
Norton diagnostic report says my RAM is low
GeoffL
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: quaxo on September 24, 2011, 07:33:42 PM
Hi,
I just bought an acer notebook (for travelling) which has 1GB of RAM. Task manager tells me that total physical memory is 746, cashed is 210, available is 208 and free is 1. Does this mean I actually have 1MB of memory to use? What happened to the other 278MB?
Regards
Geoffl

Allocated for graphics. Unlike a normal graphics card with it's own memory like you'd find in a desktop, laptops share a portion of the system memory for graphics use.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 24, 2011, 08:40:35 PM
I only want to use this computer for emails and a bit of internet use while I am travelling. Do I need a lot of graphics? Is there any way I can get control of more RAM?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: jason2074 on September 24, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
Disregard the information reading from Task manager. If in any event you are experiencing any sluggishness from computer activities or multi-tasking, you should understand and compliment your current hardware specs. limitation.  By just Emails and browsing is enough for your current PC.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: DaveLembke on September 24, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
Under advanced tab in graphics properties you should be able to adjust the ram allocated to the GPU, 64MB is probably fine unless you plan on watching movies through it. Its best to starve the GPU of ram and test the results and if the results are bad performance then add more to the shared memory count such 96MB or 128MB etc. By default the OEM probably set it to take 25% of your Ram as shared to keep the help desk complaints down for people using it to game and play movies.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 24, 2011, 09:53:08 PM
Sorry, I don't understand a lot about windows 7. Where do I find graphics properties?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: jason2074 on September 24, 2011, 10:13:03 PM
The memory allocation of GPU for onboard is bound by design, which is controlled by software and hardware. It does not require adjustment or being able to control by users as opposed to a dedicated or add-on graphics card on desktops. Any application needing more RAM and higher graphics will depend on the capability and limitation of your laptop. So any application that your computer can run base on hardware will not be compromised.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: Computer_Commando on September 25, 2011, 04:09:24 AM
Why are you so concerned about RAM?
Is the computer not working properly?
I assume you probably have a netbook with Win7 Home Starter?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 25, 2011, 08:39:36 AM
Task manager tells me that total physical memory is 746
The built in graphics card is being allocated 128MB of Memory for it's use. This is a reasonable amount.

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cashed is 210
This is the amount of otherwise free memory that windows is using for superfetch.

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available is 208 and free is 1. Does this mean I actually have 1MB of memory to use?
Disregard the "free" value. it's generally meaningless, and only tells you how much memory you have entirely unused. Cached+free memory is the amount of available memory .Available memory is how much you have available.

Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 30, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
Hi,.
Sorry for not replying but I have been away. Thanks for your replies. Computer is running W7 starter and seems to take ages to do anything. I guess it's that  it only has 1 gig ram. I thoughrt that was a plenty. Nortons  keeps coming up with "high performance alert" and diagnostic report says"your system RAM is low". Should I unload some start programs to make it happier?
Regards
GeoffL
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: Computer_Commando on September 30, 2011, 11:06:47 AM
...Computer is running W7 starter and seems to take ages to do anything. I guess it's that  it only has 1 gig ram. I thoughrt that was a plenty. Nortons  keeps coming up with "high performance alert" and diagnostic report says"your system RAM is low". Should I unload some start programs to make it happier?...
Yes, Norton.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on September 30, 2011, 11:49:57 PM
Tried Kapersky, Trend and Mcaffee. All seem to work about the same on this machine. Is there something better?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: jason2074 on October 01, 2011, 12:09:42 AM
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Computer is running W7 starter and seems to take ages to do anything.
What programs or software are you running when its getting slow? Specify some activities.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on October 01, 2011, 01:50:37 AM
Only using windows mail and internet explorer. My other computer has 4gb ram and I thought this would be as fast if that is all it was doing. Seems silly to buy a computer with 1gb RAM and the system tells you that you only have 746mb. I was just thinking maybe there was something loaded that I don't need and that I could get rid of.
Thanks for your interest
Geoffl
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: jason2074 on October 01, 2011, 04:45:32 AM
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Only using windows mail and internet explorer
It might be just on browsing or on Internet connection speed. I also have a Win 7 Starter notebook with 1 gig of RAM but on browsing and emails has never been a problem. Only on some occasional slow internet connection speed. Why not try first using Google Chrome browser to check on the difference. If you are used to have a 2 to 4 gig of memory and a higher end computer, certainly you would see a difference on a 512 to 1 gig of RAM.
Are you sure your just using one antivirus and firewall as a basic protection software?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: geoffl on October 01, 2011, 05:41:32 AM
Thank you. Will try Google Chrome. Only have Nortons and Windows firewall says Norton is magaging it.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Geoffl
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: immental1200 on October 01, 2011, 06:30:55 AM
You mean the system was sold as having 1GB of RAM, yet 764mb is all that is showing up? This could be a bad mobo or RAM stick.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: BC_Programmer on October 01, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
You mean the system was sold as having 1GB of RAM, yet 764mb is all that is showing up? This could be a bad mobo or RAM stick.

128MB is allocated to the Graphics chipset.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: patio on October 01, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
Or 256...
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: BC_Programmer on October 01, 2011, 09:24:46 AM
Or 256...
oops, that's what I've been meaning to say. don't know where I got 128 from...
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: soybean on October 01, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
It might be just on browsing or on Internet connection speed. I also have a Win 7 Starter notebook with 1 gig of RAM but on browsing and emails has never been a problem.
jason, how are you accessing your email, via email client or web browser?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: immental1200 on October 01, 2011, 05:50:07 PM
128MB is allocated to the Graphics chipset.

When I posted that, I was the first reply. I left it sat there for a while before I hit post i guess...
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: patio on October 01, 2011, 06:16:41 PM
When I posted that, I was the first reply. I left it sat there for a while before I hit post i guess...

HuH ? ?
What does that mean ? ?
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: immental1200 on October 02, 2011, 02:45:38 AM
HuH ? ?
What does that mean ? ?

It means my browser screwed up, so just ignore any previous posts from me on this topic.
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: stix on October 02, 2011, 04:39:42 AM
what i could suggest to help you speed up your computer a bit, is to uninstall norton via their uninstall tool that i think you can get from their website somewhere, it ends up working cleaner then the uninstall that comes with it, and install microsoft security essentials from microsofts website, for a free anti virus, and if you can, buy webroot internet security essentials, both work well in tandem, and they are what i currently run on my windows machine, both together use ~90mb of ram, out of 6gb. im betting norton would be using twice that
Title: Re: Where is my RAM?
Post by: quaxo on October 02, 2011, 05:30:55 AM
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the current version of Norton.

A few years ago the the Norton programs were rewritten from scratch. Now they're much more on par for resources with other full-featured pay programs. It had a bad rep for being a resource hog in the past, and people just can't get over that. I have it installed on 3 (one XP, one Vista, and one 7) and none of them have a problem with it.