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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 07:16:45 PM

Title: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 07:16:45 PM
My name is Denise and I am setting up an older pc that was my main but was just to slow for us, so we bought a new dell..... but anyways im trying to set it back up so my 7 yr old can use it for school and learning games and internet but it is EXTREMELY slow... I need to know what i can do to make it faster! I dont have any setup disks for this computer it was a refurbished desktop from a friend of my inlaws and if i was to call him again to make it faster he will charge an arm and a leg.... i am usually pretty good at figuring out how to fix/put together things... so i just need to know what to do to clear it out the easiest and what to buy to make it faster! It takes over7 min just to load up the internet... any free advice would be great!!! THANKS
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 29, 2011, 07:37:48 PM
Denise, can you tell us  the make and model of the old computer and the operating system?  That would be the best place to start. It would also help to know the specs CPU, Motherboard, ram.   See of you can down load Belarc Advisor http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) and post the specs. I presume you have a Windows OS.  Don't post the key.

Your specs from Belarc should look something like this.   These are mine.  Obviously newer computer

Operating System       System Model
Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)       HP-Pavilion AY643AA-ABA s5310f
System Serial Number: 3CR94804QV
Chassis Serial Number: BB0001
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a       Main Circuit Board b
3.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon II X2 250
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Not hyper-threaded       Board: PEGATRON CORPORATION Narra6 6.01
Serial Number: 102718600000716
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 5.14 11/04/2009
Drives       Memory Modules c,d
640.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
575.00 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

hp DVD-RAM GH40L SCSI CdRom Device [CD-ROM drive]

Generic- Multi-Card USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
WDC WD64 00AAKS-65A7B SCSI Disk Device (640.13 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WCASY7511239, SMART Status: Healthy       3840 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM0' has 2048 MB
Slot 'DIMM1' has 2048 MB
    Local Drive Volumes
    
c: (NTFS on drive 0)   628.47 GB   573.27 GB free
d: (NTFS on drive 0)   11.56 GB   1.73 GB free
    Network Drives
    None detected
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 07:44:14 PM
what is that i would be downloading and what do you mean when you say dont post the key?  sorry not with the pc lingo
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 29, 2011, 07:51:29 PM
Belarc advisor is a free, safe program that reads the specs of your computer so we can get an idea of how old the hardware is and why your computer might be so slow.  Could be various reason it is slow.   If you can get us the information another way like off the paperwork that came with your old computer that would work too.

The key I am taking about is the Windows Operating system key.  It is YOUR license to the Windows Operating system you have on your old computer. Whoever holds the license holds the key to the Windows Operating system.   If you look on your new Dell it should have a sticker that  says Windows and then a big long number.   That is your Windows Operating Key/license for your Dell.  I don't know what OS you have on your Dell.

I might be able to google the specs if I know exactly the make and model of the old computer then you wouldn't have to download belarc. Especially if the old computer is that slow.
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 08:33:06 PM
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Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)
Installed: 4/15/2010 5:19:26 PM   Compaq Presario 061 PS513AA-ABA SR1313CL NA510 0n31411RE101KELUT00
System Serial Number: CNH4510X1V
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a   Main Circuit Board b
2.00 gigahertz AMD Sempron
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Not hyper-threaded   Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Kelut 2.02
Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
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Generic USB SM Reader -- drive 3, s/n 9205291, rev 1.02 12/29/2011 9:51:23 PM
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71.63 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

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Generic USB MS Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
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ST380011A [Hard drive] (80.00 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 3JV9629W, rev 3.16, SMART Status: Healthy   448 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

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Slot 'A1' has 256 MB
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Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
Does that information help at all with what i can do to make it faster?
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 29, 2011, 09:56:23 PM
Yes it does.  Good job downloading Belarc.  I have been reading through it. If were me and since the computer is just going to be used for the children, I would uninstall any unnecessary software that you might have loaded for your purposes that wasn't on the computer originally. Also, if it were me, I would uninstall McAfee and replace your antivirus with Free Avast.  Programs like Norton, McAfee can add to the slow down of your computer. They are resource hogs.

Here is a free link for Avast http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download (http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download)  Uninstall McAfee before you install Avast.

McAfee Agent Version 4.0.0.1496
   ı i  McAfee, Inc. - SYSCORE.14.1.0.645.x86
     i  McAfee, Inc. - VirusScan Enterprise Version 8.7.0
   ı i  McAfee, Inc. - VSCORE.14.1.0.524.x86

It also look to me like you have a ton of additional software.  Frankly I can't tell what have that software is that you have loaded.  I am going to try to enlist some more help from forum moderators.   But this is a start.
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 29, 2011, 10:03:06 PM
thanks so much i will start on that tomorrow morning and i will check back with you! right now I am running a defrag and see where that gets me!
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 29, 2011, 10:18:17 PM
Here are a couple more links that should also help you in the process.  Running a defrag is a good start.  Just an FYI,  it isn't necessary to download a program that says it will speed up your computer.  There are a lot of things, like running a defrag and getting rid of software you haven't used in awhile,or in your case won't be using on this old computer that can be done manually just by taking the time.  Based on your specs your computer doesn't look that old to me.  It might be possible to add more ram but try these other fixes and see how that goes.

"The first step will be to clean out your MSconfig settings. This will not only make your computer boot up possibly FASTER than it did when you first got it, but it will also free up the necessary resources your computer needs to run like new. The internet will run faster, programs will load faster, and so much more" (there is more on this in the first link)



http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=62253.0 (http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=62253.0)


I don't know what Windows OS you have on your Dell, but with the advent of Windows 7, Windows xp is also going to seem a lot slower.  :)


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Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Transfusion on December 29, 2011, 11:49:55 PM
http://www.beyourownit.com/speed-up-your-computer.html (http://www.beyourownit.com/speed-up-your-computer.html)
I generally don't trust registry cleaners as they do cause more problems than they solve-if, say, they detect a partially uninstalled program and remove all the entries pertaining to the program and the program, depends on, say, a version of the .NET Framework the registry cleaner might also remove entries pertaining to the .NET Framework. Feel free to correct me, though...

In your first post you said that "It takes up over 7 mins to load up the internet" I presume you mean your internet browser. There clearly are background processes which are slowing down your computer.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/110667/answer_line_which_background_programs_can_i_close.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/110667/answer_line_which_background_programs_can_i_close.html)

You don't seem to have any extraneous programs. The only one I can pick out from the list is ABBYY Software FineReader(which reads OCR docs). Adobe Acrobat does handle OCR files well.

Also, check in your startup folder for any unnecessary programs that will hog system resources. (Start>All Programs>Startup)You only have 512 MB of RAM, which is going to be an issue if you are planning on running even slightly resource-intensive programs such as Photoshop Elements Starter Edition 3.0. Consider upgrading to at least 1 or optimally 2 GB of RAM.
You also have a first-generation Sempron 3000+, which is at the very bottom(look at this chart: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/low_end_cpus.html its even worse than most of the Celerons out there) of CPUs by today's standards. If you are familiar with technology, try getting your hands on an Athlon XP (socket A) and upgrade the processor.

Yeah do get rid of McAfee there are many more virus programs with a far better rate of virus detection:
(http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/RAP/RAP-quadrant-Apr-Oct11-850.jpg)
from http://www.virusbtn.com, home of the VB100 Award
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: jason2074 on December 30, 2011, 01:04:09 AM
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It takes over7 min just to load up the internet...
Wireless or wired? Have you check your internet connection also or run speedtest for the result? What browsers are being used?
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Computer_Commando on December 30, 2011, 05:16:33 AM
You said your computer was a Dell, but Belarc says Compaq Presario.
You can't install the Compaq Windows build on a Dell because they are specific to that particular Compaq.
With the Dell Service Tag, you can get all the proper drivers directly from Dell.  You could also order the Dell restore CD's for a nominal fee.
www.support.dell.com
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 30, 2011, 05:50:47 AM
You said your computer was a Dell, but Belarc says Compaq Presario.

She said...

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I am setting up an older pc that was my main but was just to slow for us, so we bought a new dell

It's the "older PC" that she's asking about.

Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: patio on December 30, 2011, 07:27:59 AM
Another thing you may want to consider would be to visit Crucial.com and run the online scanner to see if it's possible to add additional RAM...probably the most cost effective of perking up an older PC...
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 30, 2011, 07:45:37 AM
Thanks for all your help on this thread everyone.  I told Denise I needed to bring in the big guns.  ;D She should have quite a bit to go on now and I have learned a few things.


 This link was just for the purpose of the video information on speeding up your computer.  I agree with Transfusion regarding cleaning registry programs. As I said in my earlier post, you don't have to download a program to speed up your computer.


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Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 30, 2011, 07:58:55 AM
Thanks for all your help on this thread everyone.  I told Denise I needed to bring in the big guns.

Why are you thanking us? And how did you bring in any "big guns"?
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 30, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Why are you thanking us? And how did you bring in any "big guns"?


1) because I felt like it.
2) db032383 posted her thread yesterday at 7:30pm and seemed like  I was the only one trying to help her
3) and because I sent a PM late last night to Transfusion asking for his help
4)and why was my Beyourownit links removed. (you missed the one in transfusions post)  I wasn't advertising, thought the forum was about helping people. Use computerhope links elsewhere all the time. 
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 30, 2011, 10:00:41 AM
I dont know why all the conflict I was just asking for some help!  Thanks to everyone including IowaMrs for helping me out! I've done all that U have suggested now my next question is if I decide to get more RAM, How do i know what i should buy, size and (style) kind of RAM
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 30, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
 
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Another thing you may want to consider would be to visit Crucial.com and run the online scanner to see if it's possible to add additional RAM...probably the most cost effective of perking up an older PC...

As Patio suggested go here http://www.4allmemory.com/indexb.cfm?gclid=CO_c6OGkqq0CFSwBQAodhxezkw (http://www.4allmemory.com/indexb.cfm?gclid=CO_c6OGkqq0CFSwBQAodhxezkw) use it on your Compaq Presario
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 30, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Think I might have suggested the wrong scanner from crucial. http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/ (http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/)  Sorry, try this.  There are so many similar programs advertising  on the web, it is easy to get misled. 


Also, sorry about bringing conflict into your post.
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 30, 2011, 10:30:31 AM
what about processors.... how do i upgrade that and is it easy to do?
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 30, 2011, 10:31:47 AM
Also, sorry about bringing conflict into your post.
LOL no problem!
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 30, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
what about processors.... how do i upgrade that and is it easy to do?

This computer (Compaq Presario SR1313CL) was introduced 7 years ago, (Dec 17 2004). It has a maximum RAM capacity of 1 GB, and the motherboard supports CPUs of the type known as "Socket A". These are not made any more. Personally I think it would a waste of money spending very much on this machine. The most powerful CPU you can use, if you can find a used one, is not going to make a lot of difference. I guess you could upgrade the RAM quite cheaply, you can take out the current memory and put a single 1 GB module in, the type is 184 Pin 2.5v DDR333 Non-ECC Dimm and this should cost around $30. (Check: $29.99 at Crucial) http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Presario%20SR1313CL&Cat=RAM but don't expect an astonishing transformation.



Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: db032383 on December 30, 2011, 07:07:16 PM
This computer (Compaq Presario SR1313CL) was introduced 7 years ago, (Dec 17 2004). It has a maximum RAM capacity of 1 GB, and the motherboard supports CPUs of the type known as "Socket A". These are not made any more. Personally I think it would a waste of money spending very much on this machine. The most powerful CPU you can use, if you can find a used one, is not going to make a lot of difference. I guess you could upgrade the RAM quite cheaply, you can take out the current memory and put a single 1 GB module in, the type is 184 Pin 2.5v DDR333 Non-ECC Dimm and this should cost around $30. (Check: $29.99 at Crucial) http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Presario%20SR1313CL&Cat=RAM but don't expect an astonishing transformation.

So are you saying not to get a new processor for this computer because its not worth it? I cant afford to by a new computer so i though that by spend some money and putting in to the computer wouldn't hurt....   What should I do! my daughter is enjoying having her own computer but hates waiting for games and sites to load up!
will the RAM do anything beside add more memory
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 30, 2011, 07:28:49 PM

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This computer (Compaq Presario SR1313CL) was introduced 7 years ago, (Dec 17 2004). It has a maximum RAM capacity of 1 GB, and the motherboard supports CPUs of the type known as "Socket A". These are not made any more. Personally I think it would a waste of money spending very much on this machine. The most powerful CPU you can use, if you can find a used one, is not going to make a lot of difference. I guess you could upgrade the RAM quite cheaply, you can take out the current memory and put a single 1 GB module in, the type is 184 Pin 2.5v DDR333 Non-ECC Dimm and this should cost around $30. (Check: $29.99 at Crucial) http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Presario%20SR1313CL&Cat=RAM but don't expect an astonishing transformation.


 I would trust what SalmonTrout is saying. Ram will speed it up some but as he indicated in his last post "don't expect an astonishing transformation"
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: patio on December 30, 2011, 07:46:23 PM

1) because I felt like it.
2) db032383 posted her thread yesterday at 7:30pm and seemed like  I was the only one trying to help her
3) and because I sent a PM late last night to Transfusion asking for his help
4)and why was my Beyourownit links removed. (you missed the one in transfusions post)  I wasn't advertising, thought the forum was about helping people. Use computerhope links elsewhere all the time.

The links were removed for 2 reasons...
A) Although the may have contained pertenint info to "speeding up a PC" they are flagged as malicious sites by WOT...
And B) We try to solve issues here without anyone having to pull out their wallet and spend hard-earned cash...which the above mentioned site wanted to do...
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 30, 2011, 09:26:22 PM
So are you saying not to get a new processor for this computer because its not worth it?
That is precisely what he is saying.

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I cant afford to by a new computer so i though that by spend some money and putting in to the computer wouldn't hurt....
It won't. But I think the point being made is that it won't really help, either. Basically, money spent on the machine would be better put towards a new one in some fashion.
Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 31, 2011, 03:05:27 AM
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It takes over7 min just to load up the internet...

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my daughter is enjoying having her own computer but hates waiting for games and sites to load up!

Apart from a couple of remarks like the above, we don't really know how "slow" it is. Reading those things I wonder quite strongly if this computer is not "slow" because it is old, perhaps it is slow because something is wrong with it. For example if the hard drive is very nearly full, is beginning to fail, or is badly fragmented, or gone into PIO mode, then the machine would seem a little sluggish. If the wireless connection needed troubleshooting. But most of those points seem to have been covered. (Viruses?) Even an entry level machine from 2004 with only 512 MB of RAM should be reasonably brisk at web surfing (unless the connection is a particularly poor one). Especially if it has a newly installed XP. Modern games are another matter. There is a lot here that we do not know. However I would put 1 GB of RAM in it and format the disk and reinstall XP and all service packs and see how it worked after that. If it was still bad I would start thinking about alternatives. This thread could meander on for quite a few more pages. Best of all would be if someone technically knowledgeable and trustworthy (maybe a relative, family friend or local nerdy teen would give this machine a thorough hands-on going-over (a tune-up) and see if there is anything obvious that needed putting right. The trouble is, if that knowledge and fitting of RAM, CMOS battery etc has to be paid for at commercial rates, like from a repair store, then you are spending a good part of the cost of a new computer or a more recently made used one.

Less expensive than a new computer would be a "modernizing kit" which would be a cheapish budget new motherboard/cpu/RAM combo deal that would fit in the case and not tax the power supply unduly.

Title: Re: Help need to make my PC faster
Post by: Daisymae70 on December 31, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
Or if your are really ambitious  ;D, you, or someone you know could build your own.  I built one a couple of months ago from a barebones kit for under $300.  Taking into consideration I already had a extra monitor, keyboard, mouse and Windows 7 OEM.  It was easier than I thought. The only thing I had to buy that it didn't come with was a case fan.  Then I discovered I could use it to watch free HULU on my flat screen TV.  But that is besides the point here.  ::)  Just wanted you to know there are other options.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1626533&Sku=B69-0483 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1626533&Sku=B69-0483)  I am not recommending this particular kit but just giving you an idea of what is out there.   I remember when I first started learning about fixing computers one of my first questions was "is there such a thing as a computer in a box, like a puzzle I could put together"?  So there you have it.  Of course I didn't build it until I had enough  experience under my belt starting with taking my first computer apart and putting it back together.  But it also is an option.