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Title: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 28, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
Prepare for a new UI. ::)

I love Firefox but the constant updates and now another UI. Drinks on me?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/mozilla_firefox_29_final.html

Beta changelog appears to be accurate in the final version.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/29.0beta/releasenotes/

I do like the new sync. It's done through your Mozilla/Firefox account rather than the PITA Sync Add-on. If you were using the old sync on your mobile browser you have to remove it in the settings and then sign in to the new sync in the mobile browser settings.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 28, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
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Add-on bar has been removed, content moved to navigation bar

Ridiculous!

I was a little heated when I noticed the Add-on bar was removed. Not hidden but completely removed! Luckily there is an add-on to replace it. The Addon Bar (restored) (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/the-addon-bar/)

If needed there is also a Classic Theme Restorer add-on (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/).
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 28, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
1) The new release also seems to have broken Status-4-Ever, eliminating the status bar again. I'm trying The Addon Bar to see how much status bar functionality it brings.

2) I like the reload and stop load icons outside (and to the right of) of the address window, but that doesn't seem possible anymore.

3) Back/Forward dropmarker seems to be disabled too

Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 28, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
I'm trying The Addon Bar to see how much status bar functionality it brings.

I have never used Status-4-Ever but I got all of my add-on bar add-ons back. Good luck.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: BC_Programmer on April 28, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/

I was able to get a status bar of sorts by right-clicking and choosing customize on the main toolbar. I dragged a "Status Text" thingie to the bottom and I have a statusbar again. I was also able to grab the Reload and Stop buttons from that customize Menu and drag them in place next to the location bar. Hopefully that is what you are after, Allan.

Classic theme Restorer brought me most of the way back to the interface I prefer. I had to tweak some of it's options to disable the Firefox button as well as disable showing Tabs in the Titlebar., but now it looks almost identical

Actually I found the option: I was able to disable the button with Classic Theme Restorer, as well as disable showing Tabs in the Title Bar. Now I have it looking identical to Firefox 28.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: patio on April 28, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
I just wonder who decides on these changes all the time...
It's obviously NOT their User base...
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 28, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
I just wonder who decides on these changes all the time...
It's obviously NOT their User base...

100% agreed. I am just grateful there are add-on devs who quickly fix the problems. Problems that shouldn't even exist.

This release feels like Google Chrome. I don't use that browser partly because there is NO add-on bar!
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: BC_Programmer on April 28, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
Some caveats I found:

Display issues with Tabs. Traced it to something of a conflict between TabMixPlus and either the new theme or possibly Classic Theme Restorer, or perhaps both. Shame, I rather liked the plugin. Display issues manifested as highlights still having rounded tabs and weird shaded red boxes appearing on tabs. Disabling TabMixPlus appears to have fixed it. Perhaps that add-on will be updated in the future (assuming it has not yet updated).

Otherwise it appears I was able to almost perfectly restore the previous appearance.

Unfortunately for me it's pretty much between Firefox,IE, and Opera. Chrome is out completely because it doesn't support non-standard DPI displays, instead relying on Windows DPI virtualization which looks gross.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 28, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
My TabMixPlus text has been blurry for a while now so I just accepted that and now over look it. Everything else with TMP seems to be working fine for me. The TMP forums has nightly builds. I didn't look at the nightly changelog but they usually have fixes available sometimes well before the final version is released. You might check it out. http://tmp.garyr.net
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 29, 2014, 05:56:13 AM
BCP - re your two posts above. First, thanks :) . Second, I love my Tab Mix Plus. If it conflicts with the Classic Theme Restorer, I think I'll pass on the latter. The theme I use is Firefox 3 which, except for the rounded tabs, gets me most of the way back to the old Firefox 3 theme I always liked.

Oh, and I'm not crazy about the inability to put the address bar above the tabs in the new version.


EDIT: Okay, I tried Classic Theme Restorer. Biggest issue is it breaks Colorful Tabs, which I've been using forever. I'm still playing around with getting this the way I want it, but I think Classic Theme Restorer won't work for me.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 29, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
Well, okay - I think I've got this thing kind of okay now.

I'm using the FF 29 theme with Classic Theme Restorer and a bunch of tweaks as suggested by BCP and some I found on my own. So far, so good.  Colorful Tabs and Tab Mix Plus both seem fine and tabs are below the address/navigation bar. Thanks again for the Classic Themes Restorer extension BCP :)

I very much like that theme changes are instantaneous and do not require a restart :)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 29, 2014, 08:59:59 AM
I've never used FF sync but thought I'd give it a try. I created an account and in the verification email there is a "Verify" button that will send you to the verification link. Unfortunately, the link it tries to send me to is: http://

I've tried a couple of times and that's what I get - a non-link :)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 29, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
My verification link-email is similar to this. (I'm not posting the full link)

Congratulations!

[email protected], you're one click away from verifying your Firefox Account.

https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/verify_email?uid=.........................=sync
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: DaveLembke on April 29, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
Anyone who wants to revert back to Firefox 28.0, I was able to find a path to the offline installer which is the full 28.0 Firefox install here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/28.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2028.0.exe (https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/28.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2028.0.exe)

*I found reference to an offline Firefox 22.0 installer and then edited the URL path manually to see if I changed 22 to 28 if I could get 28.0 and it worked.

I just downloaded a copy of 28.0 in case 29.0 causes any unexpected problems with end users and web interface applications etc.

While its not best to revert back to 28.0 for security reasons, if you have a problem with 29.0, at least this is the ticket back to 28.0.

*** NOTE: To keep 28.0 from automatically upgrading to 29.0 I'd install this offline and while offline go to the browsers TOOLS -> Options -> Advanced -> Update -> And select "Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them" or "Never Check for updates", then select [ OK ] to apply the config settings and restart browser and confirm that the config applied. Then you can connect the network cable or connect to wifi and hopefully the update wont happen automatically.

Right now I am testing 29.0 on some systems and leaving 28.0 on others until I know that 29.0 wont cause any problems with end users. Really hoping that 29.0 doesn't break ad-block plus on my home system since I hate commercials every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 29, 2014, 01:45:24 PM
My verification link-email is similar to this. (I'm not posting the full link)

Congratulations!

[email protected], you're one click away from verifying your Firefox Account.

https://api.accounts.firefox.com/v1/verify_email?uid=.........................=sync

I've tried several email accounts on two different computers and in ever instance I am sent: http://

No address - just a non-address. No big deal.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 29, 2014, 01:55:30 PM
I've tried several email accounts on two different computers and in ever instance I am sent: http://

That's strange. I'll keep my eyes open for anyone with the same issue.

Anyone who wants to revert back to Firefox 28.0,

FileHippo keeps an older version library on all software. Just visit the software download page and it's on the right. http://filehippo.com/download_firefox

Full version download history. http://filehippo.com/download_firefox/history
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: DaveLembke on April 29, 2014, 02:19:31 PM
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FileHippo keeps an older version library on all software. Just visit the software download page and it's on the right. http://filehippo.com/download_firefox

Full version download history. http://filehippo.com/download_firefox/history

Good to know ... However, I have always preferred EXE's from original source/owner though since its less likely to be altered with a bundled trojan etc or fake. I always scan all downloads anyways before executing them, but just saying. Good to know that FileHippo can be used if I needed, such as gone from the original source/owners site. I will just be extra careful with data from there if i download from there.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 29, 2014, 02:24:41 PM
FileHippo is one website that has never and hopefully will never modify installers or allow modified installers. Majorgeeks and Filehippo are the only two download websites that I will 100% endorse.

But you are right. It's always best to download from the source.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 29, 2014, 02:50:49 PM
I don't know if everyone is aware of this add-on. I have used it for so many years I actually forget that it's an add-on instead of the default options.

Toolbar Buttons 1.0 http://codefisher.org/toolbar_button

After install I get to the Customize panel by right clicking an empty space in the top of the browser and choosing Customize. You will find loads of custom and "hidden" add-on buttons that you can drag-drop into the toolbar and add-on bar.

http://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/button_list < Only a partial list. The add-ons you have installed will have extra buttons that you find once the add-on is installed.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on April 30, 2014, 07:44:36 AM

I was able to get a status bar of sorts by right-clicking and choosing customize on the main toolbar. I dragged a "Status Text" thingie to the bottom and I have a statusbar again. I was also able to grab the Reload and Stop buttons from that customize Menu and drag them in place next to the location bar. Hopefully that is what you are after, Allan.

I believe the "Status Text" thingie to which you refer is part of "Status-4-Evar" - a status bar add-on that I also use. It will also allow you to drag a progress bar to the new status bar if you don't like seeing it at the bottom left of a web page.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 30, 2014, 01:08:31 PM
I believe the "Status Text" thingie to which you refer is part of "Status-4-Evar" - a status bar add-on that I also use. It will also allow you to drag a progress bar to the new status bar if you don't like seeing it at the bottom left of a web page.

Agreed. I can't drag and drop anything down there without The Addon Bar (restored) enabled. I have a 'Status Bar' button but I think it was for FF 28 because it doesn't work with FF 29 for toggling the Status or Add-on bar.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on April 30, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Is this a ridiculous headline or what? Mozilla Introduces the Most Customizable Firefox Ever with an Elegant New Design (https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/29/mozilla-introduces-the-most-customizable-firefox-ever-with-an-elegant-new-design/?source=firefoxsocialmedia)

Quote from: Mozilla Blog
We reimagined and redesigned Firefox to reflect how you use the Web today and we are excited to introduce many features including an elegant and fun design, new menu, customization mode and an enhanced Firefox Sync service powered by Firefox Accounts.

"Most Customizable Firefox Ever" - Yea. Once you find the add-ons needed to customize it. I fail to see the validity of their claims.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: BC_Programmer on April 30, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
I believe the "Status Text" thingie to which you refer is part of "Status-4-Evar" - a status bar add-on that I also use. It will also allow you to drag a progress bar to the new status bar if you don't like seeing it at the bottom left of a web page.

Yep, you are correct. I didn't even know I had it installed but that must be where it was coming from.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: Allan on May 01, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
Yep, you are correct. I didn't even know I had it installed but that must be where it was coming from.

In View - Toolbars you'll see "Add-On Bar". That's the Status-4-Evar Status bar.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: jannugimes on May 02, 2014, 06:13:42 AM
For those that upgraded to last version - how is FF 29 when it comes to speed? Does it start faster? Any other noticeable speed improvement?
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on May 02, 2014, 09:29:42 AM
I haven't noticed any performance improvements. I don't think this build was focused on improving any of that. Speed will be dealt with in coming versions (http://lifehacker.com/speed-up-firefox-by-enabling-its-new-http-cache-1570488335).
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on May 18, 2014, 08:26:35 AM
My TabMixPlus text has been blurry for a while now so I just accepted that and now over look it.

I don't know if this is relevant to anyone but I have just been looking at Firefox Themes (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/) and noticed when I hover the mouse over some white or light colored themes it removes my tab text blur. I use dark solid themes (currently bluegrid (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bluegrid/)) so I'm on the hunt for a dark non-blurry text in tab theme. So far no luck...
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on May 19, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
I just saw this (http://lifehacker.com/small-tabs-removes-tab-scrolling-and-fits-more-tabs-in-1578355436) on Lifehacker. Small Tabs 1.1 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/small-tabs/?src=api) - Firefox has removed tab size options and this allows for tabs to compact to smaller sizes while also bypassing tab scrolling.

I know Tab Mix Plus has tab size options but I haven't tested it to see if it still works. I like Small Tabs 1.1 better.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 19, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
I just saw this (http://lifehacker.com/small-tabs-removes-tab-scrolling-and-fits-more-tabs-in-1578355436) on Lifehacker. Small Tabs 1.1 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/small-tabs/?src=api) - Firefox has removed tab size options and this allows for tabs to compact to smaller sizes while also bypassing tab scrolling.

I know Tab Mix Plus has tab size options but I haven't tested it to see if it still works. I like Small Tabs 1.1 better.

I'm using the nightly build of Tab Mix Plus and it appears to have visual problems with Australis. Mostly with highlighting tabs.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on May 19, 2014, 08:16:39 PM
Blurry text? That might be your theme and TMP. Go to the themes website and hover the mouse over a few themes with a white background to see if it clears up. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 19, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
Blurry text? That might be your theme and TMP. Go to the themes website and hover the mouse over a few themes with a white background to see if it clears up. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/themes/
I use the default theme, in fact it's the only one I have installed.

The weirdness is for the tab highlight feature, eg- If I say open a link to youtube in a background tab, with the highlight feature set to highlight new tabs, it looks like this:

(http://bc-programming.com/images/nothovering.png)


if I hover over it, it looks like this:

(http://bc-programming.com/images/hovering.png)

It's kind of weird because it looks like it wants to make really rounded corners in the first one and the second it overdraws each side for whatever reason. It still works perfectly fine, it just looks kind of broken.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: evilfantasy on May 19, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
It looks like Australis and TMP are "arguing" for dominance of the tab.

My blurry text issue that has been there so long I hardly notice it anymore. (http://i.imgur.com/wTf2fHm.jpg)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: John1397 on May 26, 2014, 06:56:39 AM
After using version 3 for years I switched to 29 seems to work ok except I download a progress bar on tab version 1.0. but there realy is no bar indicator and it is enabled under extensions.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox 29.0 Final
Post by: DaveLembke on May 28, 2014, 08:20:05 PM
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After using version 3 for years I switched to 29 seems to work ok

Did you run into issues with Version 3 at all with flash etc? I am surprised you ran this long on version 3 and just finally updated to 29.

Oldest version of Firefox I experienced was version 6 and that was a long time ago.