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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Server => Topic started by: bob1286 on April 01, 2016, 02:38:08 AM

Title: Web Server Setup
Post by: bob1286 on April 01, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
I have Web Server 2008 setup,  on a unit that we want too host a small site featuring the business that I work for.  I tried too find tutorials on it about setting it up but, no real luck.  I know that we have port the Server.  I was told that IIS needed updated from 6 too a newer version but, I don't know how.  I also, have test files too check once we have it running.  We want it too be external.  The site it's self isn't a top priority without the host too run it.
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: DaveLembke on April 01, 2016, 01:43:02 PM
Is there a reason why your not just going with a web host vs hosting your own?

Its dangerous to have a system on the DMZ and not be knowledgeable on this subject as well as security having a web server. Hackers can gain control of this server and all systems within. If your not sure what your doing I'd really leave the hosting up to a web host service provider. They are inexpensive and if there is a hardware problem they have to eat the cost. Additionally if they get hacked its there problem and not yours, and most of them strive for 100% uptime so your website might only be down for 10 minutes or an hour while their fail over kicks in to get your site back up and running.
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: bob1286 on April 01, 2016, 05:16:12 PM
Well have more control over it and possible want too stream.
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: patio on April 01, 2016, 05:17:17 PM
That makes no sense at all...if it's hosted you have control over everything...
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: Allan on April 02, 2016, 04:03:06 AM
NONE of his posts make any sense.
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: bob1286 on April 03, 2016, 05:49:24 AM
Is there a reason why your not just going with a web host vs hosting your own?

Its dangerous to have a system on the DMZ and not be knowledgeable on this subject as well as security having a web server. Hackers can gain control of this server and all systems within. If your not sure what your doing I'd really leave the hosting up to a web host service provider. They are inexpensive and if there is a hardware problem they have to eat the cost. Additionally if they get hacked its there problem and not yours, and most of them strive for 100% uptime so your website might only be down for 10 minutes or an hour while their fail over kicks in to get your site back up and running.

I was also, going too put a firewall in place for things like that if it should happen
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: DaveLembke on April 03, 2016, 12:06:31 PM
Firewall may block all but some ports, BUT the ports open for the functionality of the server to host webpages on the web are an unlocked door for a hacker if your system is not hardened. Hardened as in patched and configured properly. Additionally depending on what your using for a website you can have even more troubles with injection attacks and more.

Everyone has to learn sometime I guess. If you continue to move forward with your own vs paying for another, best of luck. I would have someone who is a specialist look over your server before you expose it to the web or work with you to build it up as secure as possible.

Additionally for private web server hosting I feel the best ones are running with Linux OS way more secure! Years ago I use to host my own webserver with Apache running Linux Fedora Core 5 on a Celeron 500Mhz with 256MB RAM. It was secure and worked fine. I did it mainly because it was cool and it was mine. But I also was attending a college course at the time in Linux and so the professor pointed me to building it up secure. I later shut it down because it was cheaper to pay for a web host than it was electric bill for system to be running 24/7. I decommissioned the web server and then turned it into a honeypot for a while baiting hackers to learn their methods of attack and tools that they would plant etc. After it was hit by a hacker I'd Ghost image restore back to it fresh wide open for the next hacker with prior hackers work wiped clean.
Title: Re: Web Server Setup
Post by: Geek-9pm on April 03, 2016, 12:34:42 PM
bob1286, you say you  are a beginner.
Do you have any experience with hosted web site?
Here is what I have learned.
A.)The host site is one 24 hues a day and they pay for bandwidth and they have a high speed interface to the network. I can not afford a 24 hours high speed thing. So I let them do it for a fraction of the cost.
B.) I backup my intellectual property, my stuff, onto my local computer from time to time. If my site goes down, I can reconstruct it in a few hours. Of course, the holst also has a backup system.
C.) My domain registration is not with my web host. So if my host gets into a fight with me, I just tell the registrar to change the timeservers. Then when it is ready, I upload my stuff to a new web site space. That way they can not steal my domain names. (Which happened once.)
D.)What I pay per month for web space is less than what I would pay for  the electricity I would have to pay for having a commercial grade server in my home.

So there you have four reasons not to run a full web server from your home.