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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows 10 and 11 => Topic started by: beanodino1 on July 17, 2016, 03:29:38 PM
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Even after a PC recovery my PC says that I have service packs two or sp2 update ,but while trying to installing most any applications, exe's , ATI catalyliist display control I will get a prompt message that I need to update my service packs & XP updates too ??? I know that Microsoft ended XP support, but I noticed they still have most all kinds of XP related applications that should work with my older programs that I'm trying to run once more ? I believe during my PC crash recovery that during Recovery that I was installed some shortcut like hotfix service packs or instead of a Standalone updates which are to be better to have ? I have check for 1.0 ,2.0 ,3.5 Net Framework folders which I do have, but I notice that when I went to Amdmistrive tools I though I remember seeing a listing of Net Framework 1.0 & 1.1 install or repair select option. Which seems to give myself another clue that my PC is not updated to SP2 as found on my PC performance user tag now ?
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Open an explorer window...go to Help/About Windows...
It'll tell you which SP's are installed...
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Update: Yes,That what I see as XP SP2, But why do older applications programs prompt to say that I need to update SP2 which I'm sure there can be another S.Pack3 update to install ? I forgot to mention that I have a net framework 1.1 located in my program files ,but no more than that ! Should I have 1.0, 2.0, 2.2 & 3.5sp1 or even more of these kind of Net Framework files located in my program files & installed too ? I still believe when my XP Media ctr. crashed & I used system recovery that I feel that not everything was updated to Framework 3.5 Sp2 as shown :-\
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The .net frameworks aren't cumulative so go ahead and install them up to 3.5
Also see here : http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/microsoft_windows_xp_service_pack_3.html
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I need to uninstall my recent net framework 3.5 ps3 for to install net framework 1.0- sp1,sp2,sp3 / 1.1 -sp1, sp2, sp3 / 2.0-sp1,sp2 sp3 / 2.0-sp1,sp2 sp3, / 3.0-sp1,sp2,sp3 / 3.5-sp1,sp2,sp3 / A reminder that I'm trying to fix installation issues & pc gameplay operational functions back on my XP media center edition 32 bit 05' desktop. Not much more than that ,but thought about using one of my two extra Vista Home Basic desktops instead incase I can't improve on fixing my XP issues, but not sure if Vista are up for the older pc gameplay software installs ::)
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For what it is worth...
About two month ago I did a fresh install of Windows XP SP-3 on my Dell desktop. I then installed some programs I normally use, such ans SyncToy
There are a number of Framework versions that I had to have. Here is an screenshot attachment of the files listed in the remove programs tool.
[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]
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I guess Im running out time with all this, but I'm in for finding & fixing this ongoing complex series of net framework & upgrades to be able to install / run program software once again. I will have to try your srceen shot m.n.fw install pattern & see what happens. Microsoft has alot of the XP service packs & other updates downloads which I have downloaded earler that are ready for action Strange also, that on my Acer Vista PC after a reinstall earlier has a similar problem saying I need 3.5 ps3 to be able to install program software too ! Since Vista still has windows update option my PC has installed everything up to 3.5 sp1 ,but will not install anymore net frameworks after that ? I throwing one stone to knock down two microsoft net framework issues being one for XP & Vista :P
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Just follow the advice given and install all of them 1 at a time...
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Since Vista still has windows update option my PC has installed everything up to 3.5 sp1 ,but will not install anymore net frameworks after that ?
Windows Update does not install new versions of .NET, it will only update existing versions. Only certain versions can run the software written for other versions of Windows.
You have to install any other versions you want/need through other means- either as part of another install or yourself.
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update: I have downlloaded most every net framework from 1.0,1.1,2.0,3.0,3.5,4.0 which was for .x86 & XP sp1 to sp3, but was able to install 1.0,1.1 hotfix no standalone versions avalible that I could see ? I could not get any of the 2.0 Net FWorks to install,but I do have a Microsoft N.FWorks combined 2.0,3.0,3.5 sp1 set-up version. I tried to install this combined 2,3,3.5 sp1,but got an alert prompt needing to downlaod some other runtime version for it to install ? I have 3 runtime versions 2005, 2008,2010 C++ already installed , but do I need a newer version maybe too ? I don't how I got in Windows 10 section hope that dose not slow this thread down on finding my net framework issues :o
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Only certain versions can run the software written for other versions of Windows.
Correction: I meant to say "other versions of .NET" here, not Windows.
Let's start here:
but while trying to installing most any applications, exe's , ATI catalyliist display control I will get a prompt message that I need to update my service packs & XP updates too
Run one of the affected programs and provide the *exact* error message you receive. eg. ATI Catalyst Control Center.
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The ATI C.C. prompt appears (only) at start-up says, I need 2.0 framework to use ATI Catalyist Control go to microsoft download site then install. Option: Could I just purchase a Ebay new XP professinal sp2 upgrade disc to bring most all the OS updates back for my XP PC to work correctly once again ? I'm using this XP Media Ctr.Edition online as I type ths message thinking It will work without a browser that still supports XP but found out there is more to it than just getting online. This XP here was to be used for playing 2000-11"gameplay PC games & nothing much more than that. I have two other Vista PC's at the ready, but was hoping to try to update this XP to where it can install software & play once again :P
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The message says "I need 2.0 framework to use ATI catalyist Control go to microsoft download site then install." Somehow I doubt that.
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Yes,might be hard to believe ,but I see it at every start up just after the desktop loads then, I close it or ok it after. Spent alot of time trying to install any or all XP related framework HotFix's,set-up's,updates 2.0-4.0,SP1-3 many types of Runtimes that I download from free Microsoft earlier. I tried trial & error install pattern method. Till I came to finally came to install the Net framework 4.0 Sp3 which my performance ID shows that I have Vista SP3 now ! Whats hard to believe is that the ATI Catalyst Control Center start up prompt reads, needs 2.0 net framework download from Microsoft site to run ATI Catalyst Control Ctr. still ! This XP sure runs well ,but I still need to test whats important to be able to install & run older Gameplay games in single mode. Being able to go online is just icing on the this XP cake ???
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Well what I wanted was the exact error message you received, rather than a paraphrasing of such. Though I was able to google it to find the specific error.
ATI Catalyst Control Center appears to require Framework 1.1 in addition to Framework 2.0. (Based on some searches) Offline redistributable for 1.1 is available here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=26).
Note: I have an XP System setup for much the same purpose, which as it has an ATI Graphics Card, also uses ATI Catalyst Control center and the .NET Framework installations gave me no trouble. (I think I installed 1.1 immediately as it is on the Windows XP disc)
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Sorry ! As many times I've seen the ATI Catalyst C.C. start -up prompt you think I would remember exactly what you said it was to be. Since 1.1 net framework was installed during recovery I guess it was to be good & did not think it needed to be reinstalled as my XP PC performed quite normal. So, I need to uninstall my present 1.1 Net F.work & install your click here link for a new version 1.1 instead ? This should work without messing up all what I done to get to 4.0 sp3. so far ? If I left my PC without 1.1 N.FWork most likely would not work as well & cause issues maybe ? Is It where installing 1.1 N.F.Work over laps to being 2.0 which seems that was the case when I install the many others earlier before ? I will uninstall my current 1.1 & try to download your 1.1 if that is all I need at this time ::)
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I just got through uninstall my past 1.1 Net Framework & reinstall your click link 1.1 soon after which installed correctly with no errors. I have 5-6 N.F.Work 2.0 set-up or updates downloads ,but (only) one was able to be installed well, but I still get the to control ATI Catalyst C.C. need 2.0 N.F.Work prompt during start-up as always. Abit hard to believe that between all my many 2.0 downloads I have nothing else works except one ? I had always ran security scans on all downloaded apps or exe before using them which finished scan reported no infections , but two 2.0 had DEP shutdown's on them which I deleted both soon after. The other few others had errors or would prompt as not address to any of my present file location, close as I can recall not exact as prefered :P
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What Versions of .NET Appear in Add/Remove Programs?
EDIT: I checked the aforementioned XP PC I have where ATI CCC works:
ATI CCC Version 1.2.2314.20337
I have "Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2" installed there. I'm quite certain I only had it installed originally for ATI CCC, so it seems perhaps the 1.1 note I found elsewhere was incorrect, sorry about that.
I also have:
"Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2"
"Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1"
"Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile"
"Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Extended"
(The last two I know I installed more recently as I was trying to run one of my programs that need Framework 4)
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Here's list of my add/remove program install thats related to: Net Framework 1.1,2.0,3.5, 4.0 client profile sp3, Microsoft snyc framework2.0 core componetx86 ENU, Microsoft Visual C++ 2005.08', 10', 13" x86. Microsoft Visual XNA framework redistributable 2.0 ,3.0 x86. Missing Microsoft 1.0,3.0 & Access Runtime which I remember installing all three during my attempt to install all my Microsoft framework downloads ??? My XP ATI Catalyst CC. version #2.010.0210.2338 which I downloaded from AMD after my XP system recovery. AMD support be sure to d.load the XP Media center version Which install seem to work well ! Not sure what would be the next move now :P
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Get an nVidia vid card...
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Glad, to report that all that I have tried finally got to download my current installation which needed XP sp3 for it to work, Great, but sad news that I need to upgrade to at least Windows 7 for the application to function correctly. Whole new difficult ball game to tackle something else I'm not sure the best way do that upgrade ? Since having two Vista's home basic PC's to use too & I guess that would be the easier method to upgrade to Win 7 instead ? Thanks for BC_& You for all your support !