Computer Hope
Other => Computer News => Topic started by: Geek-9pm on March 03, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
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What would you call it?
Digital Trends says the AMD Ryzen gaming performance is impaired.
AMD CEO says it will get better with time.
What are they saying? ???
Here is the criticism:
No optimization for new AMD chip. (http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-gaming/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DT:%20Brief%20Daily%202017-03-03&utm_term=DT%20Newsletter%20-%20Daily%20Subscribers)
That does not sound good.
But wait --- There is another side of the story.
Here is the AMD CEO response:
PCWorld says AMD will patch it up. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176053/components-processors/amds-su-says-patches-will-boost-ryzen-gaming-performance-it-will-only-get-better.html)
How do you "patch" a silicon chip? With Super Glue? :-\
(Bother articles above are dated March 3, 2017.)
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Games/software have been optimized for Intel chips. Soon they will also have optimizations for the AMD chip which will level out the performance bias. makes sense to me.
In particular because of patents and copyright, despite being the same architecture (x86) a lot of stuff has to be implemented differently. In addition to siimpler stuff like perhaps different wait states for instructions, there are also wildly different implementations of the same idea, such as Intel's Hyperthreading versus AMD's SMT.
A good comparison would be how when Intel first introduced Hyperthreading, hyperthreaded CPU's would perform slower, because software wasn't properly optimized for the particulars of how hyperthreading worked. This applies here; optimizations specific to Intel's implementation of x86/x64 often won't yield the same results with an AMD processor running those same instructions.
How do you "patch" a silicon chip?
You update the Microcode, but that doesn't seem to be what they are referring to.
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Thanks for the clarification, BC.
In the PCWorld article it says:
According to Robert Hallock, a member of the CPU technical marketing team at AMD, reviewers ended up using a number of unoptimized benchmarks.
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Specifically, Hallock said that games will be patched to improve performance on the Ryzen architecture. Oxide Games, Bethesda, and Sega are already working with AMD on “near-term optimizations” that will improve Ryzen’s gaming performance, he wrote.
So that means the game makers will get some help from AMD to better use the AMD design efforts. Sounds good. :)
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Either way, this is already a win for consumers, since now Intel has started slashing their CPU prices.
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Either way, this is already a win for consumers, since now Intel has started slashing their CPU prices.
That is a welcome change. Some Intel CPUs cost more than a AMD with motherboard.
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That's like saying a helicopter costs more than a VW Beetle...dont make broad comparisons...
For example...i could turn your statement around and say "Some AMD CPU's cost more than an iNtel with MBoard...think about it.