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Software => BSD, Linux, and Unix => Topic started by: Dilbert on April 02, 2006, 10:19:01 PM

Title: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 02, 2006, 10:19:01 PM
OK, I (finally!) got Kubuntu on my system. I am having a problem, however, with Konqueror. I can't get it to view web pages. How can I get Konqueror to work? It's just giving 404 errors.

I have a Linksys Wireless G-PCI Adapter. I think the rest of my questions will involve downloads, so I'll have to keep the other questions at bay until this is figured out. :)
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: GX1_Man on April 02, 2006, 11:10:20 PM
You'll have to get the wireless enabled in the settings menu. SOme WIreless cards never work, some work great out of the box, and some just need to be instructed in how to work. Look in the settings menu for network. It would be eth1 (eth 0 being a NIC) that will set you up.

You have to tell it you have a network adapter, which one, set the SSID and other properties and confirm your choices.

Do you still want me to send the package?
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 02, 2006, 11:16:29 PM
That depends; is there anything else I'll need? I got the OS running, so if it was only the OS, then I'm good. But if there's other stuff I'll need, then go ahead. :)

OK, I'm going to try this out. Who knows, maybe my next post will be a Konqueror post. And this is a little unfamiliar, it's going to take getting used to. But it is do-able.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: GX1_Man on April 03, 2006, 04:00:33 AM
Just remember there was (is)  a learning curve with Windows also!  ;)
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 09:18:53 AM
I saw eth0 and some other one but they were both grayed-out. I thought I wasn't in Admin mode, so I entered my PW into the thing. Still grayed-out, so I entered it again. I did this 30 times before I realized something isn't right.

I'll take a screenshot or two after I check the forums. It's a bit of a pain burning to CD just so I can pick things up on the C: drive.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 03, 2006, 09:24:41 AM
Yes, I've encountered a similar issue with Kubuntu.  Can't remember just at the moment how to make this permanent, but in the meantime, as root, at a shell prompt:

Code: [Select]
ifup eth0
should do the trick.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 11:48:43 AM
OK, I tried that. There is no user named 'root' AFAIK, so I supplied my own username and password. It accepted the code, but it still looks like this:

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/6049/frustration9ut.jpg

Thank goodness I am getting the hang of Linux - the GUI portion, anyway - otherwise this picture would probably have been very messed up. :)
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: GX1_Man on April 03, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
There is ALWAYS a root.

From a prompt:

sudo root

<enter>

enter password

There you go!
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 01:02:46 PM
I reached the login prompt, I typed 'sudo root' and hit ENTER. It asked for a password, so I made one up, and it said "incorrect password". What do I do now?

[edit]I also tried it going to K > Run Command... but the command was accepted without further prompt.[/edit]
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 03, 2006, 01:21:27 PM
Quote
OK, I tried that. There is no user named 'root' AFAIK
Yup there is.  If you do

Code: [Select]
cat /etc/passwd
you will see root listed there as one of the users.  The default install of Kubuntu sets root up with no password - that's a bit of a pain for your purposes, so you need to give root a password as follows:

Code: [Select]
sudo passwd root
Can't remember if it prompts you for the existing password, when that's blank.  If so, just hit return.  Then type the new root password (and confirm).  Once you've done that, you will be able to execute the "ifup" command, logged on as root.  In full:

Code: [Select]
su             [enter root password]
ifup eth0
ifup ra0

Let me know if that fails.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 03, 2006, 01:26:24 PM
PS  A little tip, in case you didn't know.  They key combination Ctrl+Alt+F1 (through to F6) will take you to a regular text-mode login prompt.  Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6 give you access to six different "virtual terminals".  Ctrl+Alt+F7 takes you back to X Windows.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 01:32:53 PM
Alright, I got the root PW set up. I tried to log on with the GUI login, but it said root logins arent allowed. So I went to the Console Login. I entered root and my PW for it, and now I'm at this prompt:

root@kubuntu:~#

I typed "startx" and I'm at a desktop. Not the one I set up, which shows me that I am logged in as root! I went to the Konsole but that wouldn't let me do the eth0 thing, so I went to Run Command... and typed in the appropriate commands. Now, it's not grayed out, but I can't seem to get it to enable. I'm on my sister's computer, and she's getting increasingly ticked at me, so I'm going to try a couple of things and take a few snapshots.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 03, 2006, 01:43:58 PM
You don't need to log in as root.  Just log in as you, normally.  Then bring up a terminal window - x term or whatever you get in Kubuntu.  In that, you enter "su" - the command to switch to the superuser, root.  Then you can ifup.  Tell me what, if any error message you get?
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 01:44:47 PM
I am becoming, as you might imagine, rather familiar with the basic layout of Linux. It's not easy, but I'm getting used to it. Who knows, maybe I'll just keep logging into Linux rather than Windows after Konqueror gets set up. In the meantime... thank God for CD-RW's! I'd hate to waste CD-R's on one pic.

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/4549/snapshot14aj.png

First and foremost, I have to get my IP address. I had no way of knowing I was going to need it (you're right - I do miss the Wizard-for-everything format of Windows. But for some reason I get attracted to the prompts), so I'm in Windows to get it, but is there anything else I'll need?

Oh, and no error messages other than the X's that you see.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 03:22:03 PM
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5353/picint8fr.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7199/picgate6kc.jpg

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/2...cdomain1pg.jpg

That's what I got (IP address and such censored). Oddly, whenever I put it a Default Gateway, that box becomes blank next time I access that setting, no matter HOW many times I hit Apply!
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 07:42:39 PM
OK, to get myself familiar with how to install programs (and to stop that annoying lag), I downloaded an nVidia GeForce driver for Linux. I tried to install it, and got this message:

(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4356/frustration21pk.jpg)

So, what does that mean to me? Install whatever it takes. So I downloaded... that... and tried to install it.

The instructions, I copied off a web page and put in a TXT file. The output of following those instructions is at right. Any ideas?

(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1521/frustration34lr.jpg)

EDIT: When it says "make toolbar=", I realized I goofed on the previous line and hit Ctrl-C. Then I started over.
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: GX1_Man on April 03, 2006, 08:25:53 PM
It would be nice if nVidia and ATI provided a better driver install routine, but they have only minimally recognized Linux at this point. Were the native drivers in the distribution not sufficient? What were you trying to run?

Personally I would suggest you get familiar with general Linux navigation, basic commands, etc. before you get into this or kernal recompilation. Have some fun first!
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 08:39:07 PM
What I'm trying to fix is the lag I get when I so much as drag the cursor to select multiple icons. Since Linux was touted as being faster, I assumed that it was my drivers.

But I'm not trying to install drivers at the moment. That was background info. I need the binutils... thing... installed.

As for fun, I'd love to, except that my fun usually comes in two categories:

1. Games

and

2. Web surfing

#1 is out - I don't have any Linux-compatible games. I also know that (obviously) web surfing is out until Konqueror is up. And to get Konqueror up I have to get this special tool so my Windows-ready WiFi will work on a 64-bit Linux. And to do that I have to figure out how to install things. I figured I'd get the ball rolling. :) But I think I can have fun. In fact, after I check the Kubuntu forums one more time, I'll do just that until it's time to go to bed. Then I'll secretly log back into Windows and check the forums. Just like always.
Title: No sound
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 09:10:07 PM
See what happens when you tell me to have fun??? My Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit isn't outputting any sound. These are good speakers. I tried to set it up in the Settings thing (I had to log in as root so the settings would not be grayed out - I'm sure there's a konsole workaround) but had no luck. I assume that's because - you guessed it - no drivers installed. But when I searched their site for drivers, I got this:

Sorry, no Creative updates are available for the selected query.

Ditto for firmware. Am I sentenced to a OS of silence?
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: GX1_Man on April 03, 2006, 09:25:30 PM
Open Konsole

su root
(password)
alsaconf


after that is done

alsamixer

What happens now?

Did you have sound at any point?
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 03, 2006, 09:39:58 PM
Well, no... but I do get "command not found" errors...
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 04, 2006, 12:27:14 AM
Dilber, don't start messing about with installing random packages.  Kubuntu has a massive package base.  Did you follow my instructions re installing Synaptic?  That's your starting point for installing anything.  You will be able to do a search in Synaptic to confirm whether binutils is already installed (I suspect it is).
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 04, 2006, 08:08:35 AM
Forgive me, I must have missed it. I'll download it now... done... burning... done... ah, darn it. It's the end of Spring Break, and I gotta get back to school. Whatever, I'll install it when I get home. Thanks. I don't know how I missed it...
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Dilbert on April 05, 2006, 07:59:48 PM
OK, I just realized something. Synaptic requires apt, which is for Fedora Linux. Is this a problem?
Title: Re: Konqueror and other Kubuntu questions
Post by: Rob Pomeroy on April 06, 2006, 05:06:39 AM
Ununtu is derived in part from Fedora, and uses apt as its main package manager.  This is not a problem.