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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 12:30:08 PM

Title: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 12:30:08 PM
Hi, I'm on a friends computer who is in the hospital and asked me if I could update it for her as she knows nothing about even the most basic spyware protection, ect...

She is on Windows XP Pro Version 2002
3D Micro Computer IPC
Intel Pentium III
128 MG RAM

Having done all that I noticed that her computer has no sound, she swears up and down she did before, when looking at what she has here I'm not really sure, I'm going to post some screen shots, and that will hopefully help you guys help me figure out the problem here....
In the volume area it says no audio device....

Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 12:31:50 PM
In the audio section nothing is listed and cant make any selections....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 12:32:49 PM
In the hardware section it says all are functioning properly....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 12:34:20 PM
As for normal system computer sounds, the test button on the left of the browse button is blocked out, none are functioning....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 01:55:40 PM
I hope someone can help me out with this, if I cant fix it I have a feeling she will say I changed something somehow, even though adding spyware programs and downloading Windows updates wouldnt change a thing like that....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 08, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
DLoad and run Everest Home on that machine...this will tell you exactly what sound device that system has.
Then using that info travel to the manuf site, DLoad the correct drivers and re-install them

See if this helps.
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
So would it be the C-media thing I would now look for?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 03:47:03 PM
Or something in here?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 04:25:28 PM
Is this what I'm looking for and is it safe to download it?
http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/211127/c-media-cmi8738-cmi8338-sound-wdm-driver-5.12.01.0639-windows-xp-download.html
As you can tell I havent downloaded and installed drivers before....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 08, 2007, 05:25:30 PM
So what report did Everest give you?This was suggested by patio.

FreeEverestDownload (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html)
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 08, 2007, 05:33:48 PM
Reason we ask fullbug is Everest is a little more thorough than what the OS reports in some cases.
The wrong drivers are just as bad as no drivers.
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
The 2 above pics (Besides the links pic) is the info Everest gave me, unless I'm not running the program right, will check in a few minutes....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 08, 2007, 06:18:42 PM
My full apologies here... :-[ :-[
It looked from the downsized screenshot like Windows Device Manager.

The CMedia listed is the onboard sound controller. Not what we need.
Under multimedia click on the PCI/plug and pray device and report what it says.
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 06:24:19 PM
OK, I ran the report, wow, what a cool program, gotta keep that one...
The report it huge, so far cant find anything that says sound device, just the sound, video and game controllers, will look through it again....
One sec Patio, just noticed your above post...
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 06:29:58 PM
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Under multimedia click on the PCI/plug and pray device and report what it says.
Here it is....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 08, 2007, 06:42:51 PM
HERE (http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/211127/c-media-cmi8738-cmi8338-sound-wdm-driver-5.12.01.0639-windows-xp-download.html)
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 06:48:01 PM
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HERE (http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/211127/c-media-cmi8738-cmi8338-sound-wdm-driver-5.12.01.0639-windows-xp-download.html)
Thats the same link I posted before and was asking about....

Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 08, 2007, 07:00:05 PM
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HERE (http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/211127/c-media-cmi8738-cmi8338-sound-wdm-driver-5.12.01.0639-windows-xp-download.html)
Thats the same link I posted before and was asking about....


You were correct fullbug.

I emailed you a copy of the driver in case I confused you.

Bad on me. :D
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 08, 2007, 07:03:04 PM
Man if this doesn't work we're gonna look awful silly huh ? ?

 ::)
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 08, 2007, 07:09:17 PM
I have foot in mouth disease patio so.........

I don't get too-------------> :-[
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 07:10:38 PM
Its starting the installation process, and waiting for the audio driver to be ready, its been doing that for 15 minutes, if it doesnt finish soon maybe I should try it again....Thanx for the help so far guys....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 08, 2007, 07:52:48 PM
I cant get that program to install, the installation wouldnt get past the audio driver loading, and closed with an error after 20 minutes, same thing the second time, it loads but wont get to the second stage of installing....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 09, 2007, 03:50:14 AM
You should always uninstall all instances of your
sound before installing a new driver.Did you do
that?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 07:37:20 AM
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You should always uninstall all instances of your
sound before installing a new driver.Did you do
that?
So would I have to uninstall everything shown in the pic in reply #2 as well?
And if all this doesnt work would a system restore replace what I would remove afterword?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 01:43:20 PM
GX1, could use your advice here.... :-?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 04:50:24 PM
I hate to push, but I only have this computer for a few hours, can someone tell me if its safe to uninstall these things?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 06:26:53 PM
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You should always uninstall all instances of your
sound before installing a new driver.Did you do
that?
I'm on the computer now, can you at least tell me how to uninstall these things?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: GX1_Man on February 09, 2007, 06:40:43 PM
If you are using an add on sound card, you need to disable onboard audio in the BIOS. Is this the case?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 07:07:38 PM
I dont know GX, how can I find that out?
This isnt my computer, just dealing with whats in front of me....And what does BIOS mean?
I used to think I was "fairly' at computer know how, but this stuff is new to me, installing sound card and such.....
One big question I need to know though, before I touched this computer, was there a sound card in it? Or was it already fried? I need to know this.....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 09, 2007, 07:34:07 PM
Maybe at this point I should just throw up my hands and say to her screw it, your computer doesnt have sound anymore, pay some ripoff guy a 100 or so and fix it yourself, I tried....
I have been at this for 2 days now and I cant seem to find anyone here who will tell me whats really going on....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 10, 2007, 04:12:44 AM
Read the below site to get to your BIOS to see if onboard sound
is enabled.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 10, 2007, 05:13:08 AM
Thanx Street, will check that out in a few hours once morning hits....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 10, 2007, 07:51:41 AM
To see if there is a sound card installed open the case...
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 10, 2007, 05:27:31 PM
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To see if there is a sound card installed open the case...
*censored*, do I really have to do that? That is a major undertaking, is there any other way of finding out?
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: GX1_Man on February 10, 2007, 08:05:01 PM
On most cases that is removing three screws at most.  ::)

You can also look on the back of the case and see if there are sound ports in an expansion card slot as well as some from the motherboard itself (and therefore not in a slot).
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: fullbug on February 11, 2007, 01:33:34 PM
Does the fact that her sound used to work mean something?
I need to know this.....
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: patio on February 11, 2007, 04:05:04 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: No Sound Card?
Post by: street1 (RIP) on February 11, 2007, 05:07:41 PM
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Yes.


YES.