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Other => Other => Topic started by: Computer Hope Admin on May 01, 2007, 01:05:38 PM
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For the month of May we thought it would be interesting to see what percentage of users have pirated or have illegally obtained software, MP3's, and/or movies. Feel free to discuss why you think it's wrong and/or right or use this post as a place to confess your sins.
All past monthly polls and results can be found on the Computer Hope poll page (http://www.computerhope.com/polls.htm).
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Hmmmm this seems fishy how do we know your not in a secret sting operation to catch people downloading?
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I voted "I have in the past".
I admit I used to download music and occasionally software over P2P.
When I started with software I got viruses, but they were few and far between and easily dealt with.
Then the P2P application I was using, Morpheus, had an update that made it so that hardly anything could be downloaded, even if it was legal; the program told me that what I was trying to download had no copyright signature and was therefore likely to be illegal, and stopped me downloading it.
There was no easy way round this, and no way to go back to a previous version.
So I uninstalled it and have ever pirated anything since, partly because I can do without viruses, partly because I never found another P2P application I liked.
I did try and get a few albums from BT, but they were old torrents and never worked.
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Hmmmm this seems fishy how do we know your not in a secret sting operation to catch people downloading?
Well since Computer Hope is in no way affiliated with any government agency, music industry, movie industry, etc. We're not out to catch people. ;)
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I never have but, I WOULD AND Will someday.......... not really into songs unless i own an old cd ..... I would consider stealing a dvd download, no problem....there
I have heard too many bad things about that limewire thing and messing up peoples puters!
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Yeah, P2P can really cause problems if the user is not careful what and how they download.
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I seriously doubt anyone here 'pirates'. people who 'pirate' are the ones that rip and upload the movies, games, music etc.
I only download. I'm an idealistic person, I think everything should be free. Yeah. Hehe.
For those who vote never; ever read a license agreement? I'm willing to everyone has had their fair share of 'warez' even though they bought the software in stores. Hehehe, people..
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I have in the past, and might in the future. But only when the software author/vendor pisses me off. Like claiming their software is free, only to find out that "free" means severly crippled and you must pay ransom for a functioning version. As far as music goes, no, but I do love busting the heck out of their copy protection. ;D I do this for other people. I don't listen the crap they put out using music as pretense.
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(http://www.gg2.net/upload/quirky.jpg)
i swear it was a virus that took my computer over and downloaded all of that music, movies, apps, and games, also that random manual or two... but it wasnt me
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This is really a hard one.I may be a thief but,I'm not a
liar.------->Poor Defense!
1.Have
2.Will again
3.Do not usually keep it.
4.But, your honor!I only used Ares and Shareaza! :P
5.Like to see if it's worth buying,did that with Acronis
then bought it.
6.Must have access to my Looney Tunes.
Be-do Be-do Be-do----->That's All Folks! ;D
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What is the history of the May pole? ???
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Peckerwood you should listen to street more and use google where appropiate...
This Time Only... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole_dance)
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That is funny. May pole. Get it? May.. Pole.. Make.. .. Poll...
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Sure I download pirated material, I'm not afraid to admit it. You think I could really afford to pay for thousands of dollars worth of software I hardly ever use? And I have thousands and thousands of songs on my computer. I'm a broke college student and Soulseek is my best friend. Most of the bands I listen too, though, aren't all hung-up on filesharing. It seems like half of them post their albums on their sites.
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Peckerwood you should listen to street more and use google where appropiate...
This Time Only... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole_dance)
Wow! The Babylon Ladies took the pole pretty serious.
Thanks patio we were to lazy to google.
Wait I'm sorry we searched Coogles.
http://demonews.com/download-1608.html
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wat do you think the best pvp is?
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I do. Always. I have respect for Open Source.
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I do. Always. I have respect for Open Source.
Open Source are NOT warez...
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wat do you think the best pvp is?
What the heck is pvp ? ?
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Player vs. Player?
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Ahaaa. Not too much of a gamer i am...
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Ahaaa. Not too much of a gamer i am...
Heh. No prob, I'm sure though he didn't mean PVP more than likely meant P2P.
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I'm assuming davisw meant P2P (EDIT: you beat me to it, Nathan). I don't know if I'll get in trouble for this, but Soulseek is definitely my favorite. It has to be the safest client I've use.
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I'm assuming davisw meant P2P (EDIT: you beat me to it, Nathan). I don't know if I'll get in trouble for this, but Soulseek is definitely my favorite. It has to be the safest client I've use.
Actually, he said it twice. In another post too.
Must be the THC.
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There's an option missing ...
Still do, only TV series
I can't see why there should be any difference in legallity between programming a VCR to record your favourite TV series and watching it when you want, and downloading same for the same purpose.
I use aMule cos its compatible with my favourite search site *Blocked Russian URL*
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I'm assuming davisw meant P2P (EDIT: you beat me to it, Nathan). I don't know if I'll get in trouble for this, but Soulseek is definitely my favorite. It has to be the safest client I've use.
Actually, he said it twice. In another post too.
Must be the THC.
ROFL
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I do know what that is...
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I do. Always. I have respect for Open Source.
Open Source are NOT warez...
I know, by Open Source I mean everything available for everyone. ;D
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I do. Always. I have respect for Open Source.
Open Source are NOT warez...
I know, by Open Source I mean everything available for everyone. ;D
That's still not what it means...
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Free lessons for everyone!
http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/botany/thc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
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I was just reading on slash/dot about how they build a P2P case against the people who have been subpoenaed by the RIAAAA . They take screenshots of your "share folder".... then they get a court order to duplicate your HDD (they give you money to cover the cost of the HDD).
Relating article on slashdot was "boot nuke can be launched from a USB stick now".
Some kid replied "Peter Gutmann's 35 passes, say hello to my little friend" ROFL
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That must be really geeky humour because it made absolutely no sense to me.
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I'm still trying to figure out if it's even meant to be funny.
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Aww you didn't get it because you might be new to some basic computer forensics..... how data is stored and erased and the difficulties of recovery. Gutmann method (1996) where he originally thought 35 passes(overwritten) would defeat encoding schemes at the time. That is now considered to be total overkill since 3 passes will suffice. Hence the reference the kid made to the scarface scene. Maybe you've never seen the movie. I guess you needed to know about Gutmann's overkill methods and the scarface scene to think it was funny.
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I thought it was funny before I understood.
Now me thinks---------->ROTFLMAO!
I still like the little picture of a baby under Old
PeckerWood. Bwahahaha!
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Anybody seen Dr. Raptor ? LOL
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I guess you needed to know about Gutmann's overkill methods and the scarface scene to think it was funny.
I'm familiar with both.
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I guess he assumed you didn't... ::)
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I never have but, I WOULD AND Will someday.......... not really into songs unless i own an old cd ..... I would consider stealing a dvd download, no problem....there
I have heard too many bad things about that limewire thing and messing up peoples puters!
That's only if you're stupid enough to download exes :P or porn or those screensaver things.
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Aww, but I love my dear Pr0nScreensaver.exe...
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Aww, but I love my dear Pr0nScreensaver.exe...
Then welcome to the world of Windows reinstallation discs.
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Aww, but I love my dear Pr0nScreensaver.exe...
Then welcome to the world of Windows reinstallation discs.
I don't have a re-installation disk but I do have an installation disk. Could that have been my problem all along, doctor?
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
I have always tried to find something for free before going to buy it and that depends on how badly I need it. I download everything there is that I need, the only stuff that I've ever bought was StarCraft, Need for Speed Underground 2, Battlefield 1942 and thats only so I could play online since it gets a little boring with bots. I take computer engineering in school, we use Autodesk Inventor and AutCad, those cost $1,000 each, there is no way I'm paying that much for one license. Companies that make these programs should put more money into protecting their software rather than trying to find who has an illegal copy of it.
For example, take XRumer you will not find a crack for this software and if you do find someone who actually cracked it they would sell that crack to you for half the price of the original cost just because of what this software is capable of.
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? ::)
Companies that make these programs should put more money into protecting their software rather than trying to find who has an illegal copy of it.
I don't suppose you work for free do you?
If everyone paid for their copy maybe they wouldn't have to charge so much. They certainly wouldn't have to go after pirates to sue. ::)
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? ::)
Companies that make these programs should put more money into protecting their software rather than trying to find who has an illegal copy of it.
I don't suppose you work for free do you?
If everyone paid for their copy maybe they wouldn't have to charge so much. They certainly wouldn't have to go after pirates to sue. ::)
If everyone paid for their copy software would be even shittier than it is nowadays.
Piracy makes sure decent software gets paid for and indecent software is used and ditched.
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? ::)
Companies that make these programs should put more money into protecting their software rather than trying to find who has an illegal copy of it.
I don't suppose you work for free do you?
If everyone paid for their copy maybe they wouldn't have to charge so much. They certainly wouldn't have to go after pirates to sue. ::)
If you can, take it! ;D
I don't work free thats true, but if the employees job is to make the protection for the software against hackers and those that crack them then they should do it at their best since they get paid by hours and not by the number of work they've done.
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"Have you pirated software, MP3's, or other data?"
Well, Nathan this forum sure gets a lot of"HELP!posts.
I gather from that the answer is yes.
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? ::)
You can have as many pictures of my car as you want, and if you've got a portable X-ray you're welcome to look inside everything, so you can make a replica. As long as I can still drive it when I want.
But buy your own petrol.
I think the EFF (http://www.eff.org) has got the right idea. Why not let ISP's bundle P2P filesharing into their pricing, and then the artists can get paid. Instead of the RIAA wasting loads of money in a futile war.
If you really want to charge a premium for quality software, then your licensing mechanism should be good enough to prevent piracy. You can let people copy the code as many times as they want, it just wont run without a unique license for each system. You could even use P2P to get upgrades and patches available to your paying customers.
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Why pay for something you can get for free?
Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? ::)
LOL ;D
I chose "never". I tried P2P once, and didn't really like it, so I never did it again. I'm saying never because if someone tries smoking, but never smokes again, they're not smokers.
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when i was a poor college student, i try very hard to get an old second intel pentium 100MHZ pc, the lousiest pc in the class or even in the school. (other student at least have a pentium 2, some already have pentium 3), do you think i still affort to spend a few hundred dollar to buy original software since i can get a pirated only for a few dollar in black market or download it for free. that time the price for original MS office (example) is too expensive for a student, (enough for 1 month expenses for a college student life, they'r not selling student and teacher pack).
my vote is, YES all the time.. when i get my first computer about 8 years ago, i never pay a cent for original software untill few years ago. now, the original software or games i brought recently years is Starcraft, NFS 3, NFS underground, NFS underground 2, Most wanted, NFS carbon, Haftlife 2 Nascar simulation and some other pc games.. yes! that only pc games can make me pay to buy original even i didn't play online.
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Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"
What is it worth to you to have it actually work right....better yet what value do you place on your own peace of mind ? ?
Don't get me wrong i'm not preaching.
Just don't come crying when your first car gets stolen by someone applying the same sense of economics we are discussing here...
After all he couldn't afford a car now could he ? ? ?
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[sitting in my chair, keeping quite about my vote...]
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That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.
So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?
Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. ::)
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That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.
So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?
Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. ::)
Doesn't make much sense to me either. I don't see how having copies of some songs on your computer is the same as taking someone's car. It's a whole different level. I just borrowed It's Time For The Peacocks from a friend and put it on my computer...should The Peacocks come to my house now and steal my car to level the playing field? If it's that big of a deal, I'll put a few CD's on their computer, free of charge.
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the price for original MS office (example) is too expensive for a student
And that's why open source software is thriving.
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Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"
Fine. I'll just leave it at this and everyone can keep their car...
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Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"
Fine. I'll just leave it at this and everyone can keep their car...
O.K, so because we can get it more easily and for free means we shouldn't do it? Some argument.
By the way, there are a lot of things that could improve the economy and fighting piracy is not one of them.
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i love everything pirated, i copy, rip, download, and burn, DVD's, CD's, AND CVDVDCD's. ''pirate'' is my last name, ''the'' is my middle name.
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i love everything pirated, i copy, rip, download, and burn, DVD's, CD's, AND CVDVDCD's. ''pirate'' is my last name, ''the'' is my middle name.
Rock on.
;D
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That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.
So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?
Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. ::)
So, stealing software (intangible property) is not the same as stealing tangible personal property? Is that what you're saying? I see no difference. Just because stealing software or recorded music is easier than stealing a car does not somehow make it any less illegal or immoral. Stealing is stealing.
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The point i was driving at...what's happened is not the fact that it's easy or right. The reality is that the line between good judgement and bad is what is getting blurrier by the day.
That's what troubles me.
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Try and convince me warez deserves the title 'theft' and 'wrong'
The point i was driving at...what's happened is not the fact that it's easy or right. The reality is that the line between good judgement and bad is what is getting blurrier by the day.
That's what troubles me.
What troubles me is that you actually think warez is to blame.
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Convince me it isn't wrong.
And how did i place the blame on warez which is just a nebulous term for cracked/keygenned software ? ?
Would warez be out there if someone wasn't doing something they shouldn't ? ?
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You once again fail to provide any arguments as to why warez would be wrong. Instead you answer my question with a question. That's something I'm used to seeing on Will & Grace, I thought we could have more serious discussions on this forum.
The only thing I'd mildly agree with is that it would be the same as stealing other people's ideas. Although the software is delivered to the user the same state it is in when the person would buy it, the software isn't really reverse engineered and the original creator his/her/their creation has remained untouched.. Therefore that argument would be mostly invalid.
They just didn't get to cash in on it ! That'll teach the greedy bastards, anyway, should have gone open source in the first place..
And next time, come up with some good arguments.
I see no difference. Just because stealing software or recorded music is easier than stealing a car does not somehow make it any less illegal or immoral. Stealing is stealing.
Would warez be out there if someone wasn't doing something they shouldn't ? ?
Just saying that it is 'wrong' because it is 'theft' and therefore 'immoral' won't quite do.
Because so is over-production and a market economy., but I don't see you overthrowing any governments or boycotting supermarkets. ::)
Besides that, how are you going to coin on zero's and one's? That's all they are. Real life objects have physical properties, they were created from resources taken from the earth; bits and bytes are just electrical impulses that are not directly taken from a limited pile of resources. That's why stealing a car is a much more serious offense than pirating.
Stealing hardware would be theft, 'stealing' software is simply circumventing some people their idea of how these 1's and 0's should be used!
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And when you steal a car, you're actually taking something away from somebody. You are putting them at a loss and an inconvenience. I can't speak for everyone, but there is no way I would EVER pay $500 for a piece of software that I might only use a few times. These companies would never see any of my money. By using their software, I'm not taking anything away from them. I'm not taking away any business because I wouldn't have bought it anyway. They're not affected one bit. If you're selling pirating copies and making a profit off of it, I'll agree that it's wrong. This also applies to physically stealing the software on CD.
Maybe I don't deserve to use the software, but what harm have I caused?
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CBMatt........
I can't speak for everyone, but there is no way I would EVER pay $500 for a piece of software that I might only use a few times. These companies would never see any of my money. By using their software, I'm not taking anything away from them. I'm not taking away any business because I wouldn't have bought it anyway. They're not affected one bit. If you're selling pirating copies and making a profit off of it, I'll agree that it's wrong. This also applies to physically stealing the software on CD.
Let me attempt to explain.......
Let's say that you or your company develop a piece of software, that is cutting edge....... and you decide to sell a licence to use it along with a copy protected cd to the public for some amount of money.
You spend a huge amount of $ to research, develop, test , promote, copyprotect and a number of other things to protect your initial investment.
Your software begins to sell and you are now seeing a return on your investment. Over a period of time, your revenues reduce or possibly even cease. Then you discover, that your software is being pirated. The reality of this is that each time a copy of your software is made and used, you have just lost the projected revenue on that product.
You said : I'm not taking away any business because I wouldn't have bought it anyway.
....... Then why would you use it?
The bottom line is it's still theft............
We tend to rationalise the fact that we aren't really stealing from these people because they have lots of $...... or all sorts of other excuses.
I hope this makes some sense.
dl65 ::)
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Your post does make sense, but I'm not speaking in general terms here. I'm only speaking of myself. If everyone used pirated software, yes, that could detrimental to a company and I sympathize in that regard. But me personally using the software isn't swaying things either way.
Example...
Every now and then, I like to make little animations if I'm bored. It can be fun at times. But I'm not going to shell out all sorts of money to get Animation Shop Pro (the program I use). Never, no way. I'd rather go without. However, I came across a pirated copy a few years back (yeah, I'm using some fairly old software), so I figured why not? I'm not selling my creations, nor am I selling the pirate software. Heck, I'm not even distributing it freely. I'm just occupying my time. Jasc didn't lose a customer from my actions because I never intended on being a customer in the first place.
If it was 100% impossible to get a pirated copy, they still wouldn't be getting my money.
I know this doesn't apply to everyone else, but I don't care about everyone else. What they do is their business, whether I feel it's right or wrong (truthfully, I'm indifferent). I'm just giving my own personal side of things.
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Hi Chris....... Your response re pirating ...... bears out exactly what I was suggesting that people do to rationalise to themselves that they arent doing anything wrong...... It's like a canned response we keep playing over in our mind ...... I'm not doing anything wrong........ It is still piracy no matter how you slice it up.
I wasnt giving you a hard time, but rather trying to explain why there is such a big deal going on re the use of illegal software.
dl65 ::)
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Dl65, do I need to say it again?
open-source
The only way software companies should be allowed to cash in on is by providing SUPPORT and other services. (Like Canonical, who released Ubuntu..)
Every other type of approach should just take piracy as a fact of life and stop harassing honest citizens.
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LOL ......
Dl65, do I need to say it again? open-source
If you wish, however I wasn't refering to open -source software.
dl65 ::)
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The only way software companies should be allowed to cash in on is by providing SUPPORT and other services. (Like Canonical, who released Ubuntu..)
This is like saying makers of televisions or living room furniture or cookware or cars, etc. should not charge anything for their product. Their only source of revenue should be from support and service. It's absurd. Software maker incur costs to design, develop, and market their product, same as manufacturers of tangible goods.
Are you saying all software should be developed in open-source arena and everyone who contributes to it's develop should do so without any expectation of remuneration? That's no more realistic than expecting workers in factories making tangible goods to work for nothing. Granted, an open-source community exists in software, supported by people who do work for free, and that is different from the production of tangible goods. But, I think it's absurd and unrealistic to expect that ALL software should be developed in that manner.
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Canonical seems to do fine?
Sorry, none of your arguments are very convincing. Seems like ya all have marked branded warez as theft with out doing any research or thinking whatsoever! Just repeating what all the corporations say.. Over.. And over..
Not very original, refreshing nor progressive.
By the way, a car, which is made from and runs on limited resources, is not the same as software, which runs on energy and is made from human labour. Human labour is being abused as it is already and energy is a limitless resource if handled properly.
And yes, all software should be developed in an open-source manner and anyone who contributes know that their work will go towards a goal; to provide better software for everyone regardless of income..
Software maker incur costs to design, develop, and market their product, same as manufacturers of tangible goods.
So? I have costs of living as well, I don't see you lobbying for me to get a raise in pay or make sure that all my labour is properly paid for. We've got more important things to do than make sure people do not spread paid software for free.
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Consider how many people have been screwed by how the patent system excludes those without deep pockets...this is an example of intellectual property also.
Big business still wins. Is this also fair game ? ?
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It is still piracy no matter how you slice it up.
Well, shiver me timbers then, I guess.
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I have not download any pirated software before. I tried to get some free music but with no luck so far. Still on the search though. Afraid of the virus and the other stuff that could damge this computer.
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I have and probably will do, I have always liked to test and experiment with almost everything, which means electric shocks, fingers burnt, fingers squashed and bruised, brain dead at the shock of how lousy the rest of the CD was after I bought it etc. I have found many software products which did not meet there marketing blurb to say the least, and many that did I went on and purchased many of them.
music such a mp3 I find that as I am an old timer I really think that many of todays so called singers cannot sing or play there instruments in reality as well as they seem to do on the recording digitally enhanced or not, I have been to a few music festivals across the world and was not enlightened. So I like to find the classics of the pop and country and western varieties a little bit of everything in the music world and which are seldom if ever found in todays music shops, mind you when I think off the sixties and seventies many of the recordings then were as faked as they are now.
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Aww you didn't get it because you might be new to some basic computer forensics..... how data is stored and erased and the difficulties of recovery. Gutmann method (1996) where he originally thought 35 passes(overwritten) would defeat encoding schemes at the time. That is now considered to be total overkill since 3 passes will suffice. Hence the reference the kid made to the scarface scene. Maybe you've never seen the movie. I guess you needed to know about Gutmann's overkill methods and the scarface scene to think it was funny.
i usually delete files using windows washer (pirated) by making 100 passes.. good luck pulling up my hard drive if i get a letter in the mail from any film industry reading this :P. Frankly, the rich SOB's sitting all high and mighty on there piles of cash can forget about seeing a cent from my poor white arse. my family has a fixed income, which is below the poverty level, how else do you expect me to afford there insane prices? there already rich, why should i contribute to there life of luxury when i am living below the poverty level? IF GEORGE BUSH WONT GIVE TO THE POOR, THEN I'LL d**n SURE TAKE IT FOR MY SELF! POWA TO TEH WHITEY!
as i said, frankly, i dont care what anyone tries to do, because they must make legal notice, and thats if one of there stupid becons happens to hit my computer, which, it wont, im not st00pid like alot of other n00bs out there.. i have never once gotten a virus from pirating anything because im well aware of what i am downloading before i download it, or i dont download it at all.
its simple logic, the notify me of blah de effing blah charges because of blah de effing blah reasons, BUT, all they have is a useless IP addy and no data or evidence of any data even being there in the first place when the time comes around for them to take action. however, i do not download frequently, or impusively. for the most part, i just download movies because i do not feel like coughing up a fifty dollar bill that i do not have to spend. as i said, i am living under a fixed income, and well below the poverty level, we draw in about 1,600 monthly, which is $19,200 yearly, where as the poverty level is $25,000 so we are about $5,800 below the poverty level, which may not seem like much to you, but if you do the math, that $1,600 has to care for my father, my younger brother, myself, our pet dog. half of that income goes to rent, so we are left with about $800 to live on, without counting in anything other than rent. get the point? im dirt poor, and im d**n glad to have what i have, i'll take what i please and laugh in the face of those who may loose fifty bucks because there too d**n greedy to be willing to drop the prices so the people like myself can afford it. the only reason i have my computer is because i saved for quite some time to build it.
so, in conclusion, if your dirt poor like myself, pirate away, if they catch you, you can yell discrimination against the poor (insert race here) man/woman, like everyone else seems to be doing these days. POWA TO THE POOR WHITEY!
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I partake in pirated material and I am also dirt-poor, but that post was just flat-out ignorant. You have a lot of growing up to do, kiddo. Perhaps you should get a summer job and help your family out a bit, hm?
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it's not summer ::)
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Not officially, but it is summer vacation. Well, it is around here anyway.
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no never , wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I Mean ,know what I mean. huh huh !
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Although could be considered off topic I thought it would still be appropriate for this months post. I stumbled across this great flash clip for those of you who have or still are pirating.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nikomo/lolpirate.swf
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Oh.. I just realised that this is in Other, not Off-Topic (well, I guess it has something to do with computers)
Anway, LMAO! ;D
Great find, Nathan!
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Although could be considered off topic I thought it would still be appropriate for this months post. I stumbled across this great flash clip for those of you who have or still are pirating.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nikomo/lolpirate.swf
Umm...
rofl
Reminds me of this (http://jbworksit.ytmnd.com/)
What on earth?
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ps If u have ever downloaded from limewire thn you were illegaly downloading.
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ms_dos_sux .......
ps If u have ever downloaded from limewire thn you were illegaly downloading.
....... I don't believe your statement is correct. There may be places in the world ,where it is however, if you go to ........ http://www.limewire.com/support/ftc4.php and click on the FCC link there is some interesting reading.
dl65 ::)
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Umm...
rofl
Reminds me of this (http://jbworksit.ytmnd.com/)
What on earth?
http://awesome.ytmnd.com/
Heh.. YTMND is beyond strange. Definitely living up to their motto: Ruining the Internet one site at a time.
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http://annoyin.ytmnd.com/ (http://annoyin.ytmnd.com/)
Best one yet!
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http://annoyin.ytmnd.com/ (http://annoyin.ytmnd.com/)
Best one yet!
Whaa.. Make it stop.. ;)
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This is going off topic with annoying flash animations :P
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It is neat to see that 29.4% of the time people
want admit pirating,or using unauthorized software.
;D
Just an observation people! ROTFLMAO...
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Personally, I think people should be free to do whatever they want with any data they can obtain. I think it should be the company's responsibility to protect their data. I think that software companies should make their money from ISPs. Just let the ISPs pay for it.
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Personally, I think people should be free to do whatever they want with any data they can obtain. I think it should be the company's responsibility to protect their data.
And how, exactly, do they do that?
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copy protection, you see it everywhere, some software simply can't be copied/pirated/downloaded. Oh, sure the data can be copied, but many times people have to deal with activation software that makes it near impossible for everyone to use it, even people who bought it legally.
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All forms of copy protection can be circumvented. Pretty much all companies do attempt to protect their data with some type of protection or authentication. However, often people who pirate get around it or get software that has already been bypassed.
As far as the ISP having to pay for it I couldn't imagine that happening unless you start wanting to pay a few hundred dollars for your monthly Internet bill or having an internet connection that can't do anything.
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copy protection, you see it everywhere, some software simply can't be copied/pirated/downloaded. Oh, sure the data can be copied, but many times people have to deal with activation software that makes it near impossible for everyone to use it, even people who bought it legally.
Cracks can bypass authentication software. Most software does not have Authentication unless its over $600, which, by then, most companies would kill users who steel their products.
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"Cracks can bypass authentication software. Most software does not have Authentication unless its over $600, which, by then, most companies would kill users who steel their products."
Bwahahaha! Thanks for the laugh Zylstra.
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i cant afford to buy programs as im only 16 years old. is it soooo bad if download stuff like all the tme?
peopel say its stealing but i have qualms about doing it although if i get arrested then i will publicly admit that i was wrong
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Boo
Go try to make a program
It takes forever to sort out all the bugs, all the connections, subs, codes, etc
It hurts to know when someone downloads without paying you. Dont Copy that Floppy.
Yet, then again, I download music...
I just won't download programs. (Too many viruses, and prices tend to be less outrageous than music)
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may i correct u and say that alot of prgrams are outrageous prices. also, i dnt even have a credit/debit card so even if i wanted to buy a program, i couldnt!
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you can pay in cold hard cash.. get an after school job find free and sometimes better alternatives.
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Boo
Go try to make a program
It takes forever to sort out all the bugs, all the connections, subs, codes, etc
It hurts to know when someone downloads without paying you. Dont Copy that Floppy.
Yet, then again, I download music...
I just won't download programs. (Too many viruses, and prices tend to be less outrageous than music)
Dogma day afternoon to you, sir. ::)
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isnt it june ???
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isnt it june ???
No, it's an illusion...
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Working on a June poll and all other monthly updates. Unfortunately this month I'm late again, hopefully tonight should be done if not tonight then tomorrow. :-[
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I'm expecting zombies in the next poll, Nathan...
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I'm expecting zombies in the next poll, Nathan...
Sorry to disappoint but there will not be zombies. If you can determine a method of making a poll that involves zombies and is not over the edge I'll consider it. ;)
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Doesn't the old monthly poll get deleted?
As I recall, every month the previous month poll is replaced.
Maybe that's just my imagination I don't know...
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no they get archived look on the first post
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Doesn't the old monthly poll get deleted?
As I recall, every month the previous month poll is replaced.
Maybe that's just my imagination I don't know...
They don't get deleted, they just slowly slide down the post list into the dark abyss of unanswered questions, until it is never seen again..... ;D
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As already mentioned polls are not deleted. However, I thought it would be worth also mentioning for those not aware links to past polls are also found on the polls page.
http://www.computerhope.com/polls.htm
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As already mentioned polls are not deleted. However, I thought it would be worth also mentioning for those not aware links to past polls are also found on the polls page.
Yeah, I checked that page out quite a while back. Interesting stuff you got there.
They don't get deleted, they just slowly slide down the post list into the dark abyss of unanswered questions, until it is never seen again..... Grin
Lol, Nice Dark Blade, "they just slowly slide down the post list into the dark abyss of unanswered questions"
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Hey, have you ever looked into the they just slowly slide down the post list into the dark abyss of unanswered questions? It's all dark and scary.... *shudders* :P
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I guess I'm a little late on this post, but I just spent a while reading the threads and this topic does interest me.
I have always been against software piracy. I have written my share of code and I have given lots of my utilities away for free. But the stuff I don't want to be free, I don't expect people to steal. I know it happens, but I don't think it is right. Some of those programs have hundreds or even thousands of hours in them. And I don't believe that it should be the responsibility of the software vendors to make all of their software so it can't be copied. It is already too time consuming to enter the serial numbers and go through the product activation, etc. If everybody were honest software would be a LOT less expensive and a lot easier to use. And if you can't afford it because you are at poverty level, then you shouldn't have the software anyway, and you probably can't even afford your computer or internet connection. So cancel your internet service, sell your computer, and get a (or another) job with your new found spare time to climb out of the poverty level.
That is my opinion ... moving on ...
I used to download MP3 files ... once upon a time, a long time ago, in a land far, far away. That is when the original Napster first came out. I was young, and so were the tools used to rip CDs. Back then it was a lot easier to download a song then to rip it from my CD. But then I saw some songs that I didn't have legally and downloaded some of those too. Then they started cracking down so I deleted everything and bought a bunch of CDs and ripped everything that I wanted from my own CDs. Now everything I have is legal. All software, all programs, all music, everything ... as far as I know.
Which brings me to some questions I have had for the past several years ... how do you find out what is legal? I have done lots of internet searching but been unable to find something that answers the basic questions about what is legal and what is not. Software comes with license agreements and if you ever take the time to read them it explains your rights and limitations, but what about audio and video?
I know that if I buy a CD then I have the right to listen to it, and I think I have the right to rip it to digital files for my MP3 player, etc. but where is the legal line? If I have it (or am listening to it) on my MP3 player, then does that mean that my wife is not allowed to listen to our CD? Is my wife allowed to have a copy on her MP3 player at the same time as I have a copy on my MP3 player? If so what is the limit, and what are the rules? And where does the licensing of the music come from? Is it the physical CD? If so, what happens if the CD gets stolen out of my car, or lost in a flood? Does that mean that I have lost my rights to the music and I then have to delete my electronic copies?
And with video, I assume it is legal to have my DVR record a show from my cable TV. But how is that really different from downloading the same file that my DVR would record? And am I allowed to use my DVR to record a copyrighted motion picture / movie? And if so, what are the limits on that movie? Can I watch it several times? Can I invite friends over to see the movie? Is there a limit on how long I can keep it on my DVR? If there is not a limit, then would I be allowed to burn it from my DVR to a DVD or my computer so I can watch it again later?
I have had these questions, plus many more since I went legit with my MP3 files many years ago. If anybody knows where to find information on the rights / limitations / licensing of music and video that may answer my questions, I would love to know!
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I think that if you buy the CD, you are allowed to rip it onto your MP3 player, as well as let your wife listen to it. But you aren't allowed to make copies of it and distribute it, but you should be able to make copies for backups (although I remember reading somewhere that people might change that law).
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Hmm
I just cant afford to pay for music downloads
Or buy the CD.
I cant get a job where I live either, so I cant really work for it.
I will never download an entire CD, since that is just plain pointless.
My problem is that I am picky about the music I listen to, so I refuse to buy the CD, since I know I will get a bunch of crap I dont like.
Seems like its all about the $$$ these days.
www.singingfish.com used to be a great legal source for downloading music.
Since it was really only a search engine, it came off a website server, provided by the website.
AOL took over, and now www.singingfish.com just redirects you to music.aol.com
(middle finger to AOL)
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Zylstra, you might want to check out Hype Machine (http://www.hypem.com). Tons of music, and all legal.
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Zylstra, you might want to check out Hype Machine (http://www.hypem.com). Tons of music, and all legal.
I will admit, I dont think I have heard this song * (http://hypem.com/search/Shiny%20toy%20guns/1/) in such high quality... (maybe its the headphones I have today)
Any way to download with that site? I couldent find one
* = Song contains the F-bomb (said once, I believe) just in case you are against swearing in music
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It was funny when I deleted that last thread too!
GXI_Man... please, dont make LOUD OBNOXIOUS POSTS THAT TAKE UP VARIOUS PAGES(and a lot of our time)
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Zylstra, you might want to check out Hype Machine (http://www.hypem.com). Tons of music, and all legal.
I will admit, I dont think I have heard this song * (http://hypem.com/search/Shiny%20toy%20guns/1/) in such high quality... (maybe its the headphones I have today)
Any way to download with that site? I couldent find one
* = Song contains the F-bomb (said once, I believe) just in case you are against swearing in music
Ha, nice...you like Shiny Toy Guns, eh? My girlfriend got me hooked on that song for a good week or so. Anyway...this is how the site works... It's a music blog aggregator. It searches various music blogs for songs that have been featured. When you want to download a song, you just click on Read to take you to the blog. You might have to look a little, but a link to the song will be in the blog entry, usually at the end. For example, I'll use the first result on that page...
Clicking on Read takes you to Party Ends: http://partyends.com/peblog/2007/05/the_shiny_toy_rapture_luther_d.html
In that entry is the following link: http://partyends.com/Index_pictures/Le_Disko.mp3
Just right-click and Save Target As and you're good to go. Because some results are a little old, certain files may be expired, but you can usually find something current.
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Heh
Thats how Singingfish used to work
Thanks, CBMatt :)
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Been using Limewire for many years now for getting MP3s, had no problems ever ;D