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Title: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 11:56:51 AM
Hello, I'm having some problems with my computer a couple of weeks ago starting up. I timed how long it takes from power on to the desktop screen. "1 hour 17 minutes."

Obviously, this is obscenely long and I was hoping if someone on this site could help me.

But first, you should now the following things.


My computer's spec's are:

Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.20GHz Processor
1024MB RAM
(If you need to know more, ask.)

So, does anyone have any ideas? Keep in mind, while I'm no beginner, I'm not an expert either.

EDIT: Oh yes, I've also tried Safe Mode, no such luck.




Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 11:58:42 AM
Try new power supply.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Saviour on September 06, 2008, 12:01:12 PM
Can you post a HijackThis log...just for kicks and giggles, please?
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
Can you post a HijackThis log...just for kicks and giggles, please?

Sure. Just...let me figure out how to do it.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Saviour on September 06, 2008, 12:04:20 PM
Start here...there's info there for HiJack This:  http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,46313.0.html
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 12:07:55 PM
Start here...there's info there for HiJack This:  http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,46313.0.html

Okay, I downloaded it and got a log. Is this it?

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C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\aawservice.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Webroot\Spy Sweeper\SpySweeper.exe
C:\Program Files\BT Business Hub\Wireless Configuration\WirelessDaemon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\DAP\DAP.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\devldr32.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\Program Files\Webroot\Spy Sweeper\SpySweeperUI.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\Sitecom\Sitecom Wireless Network USB Adapter Turbo G WL-172\Installer\WLANUTL.EXE
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\SPEEDB~1\VideoAcceleratorEngine.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\dxdiag.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://uk.yahoo.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://www.btbroadbandoffice.com/2700hgv_setup
O2 - BHO: ZoneAlarm Spy Blocker BHO - {F0D4B231-DA4B-4daf-81E4-DFEE4931A4AA} - C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarmSB\bar\1.bin\SPYBLOCK.DLL
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: ZoneAlarm Spy Blocker - {F0D4B239-DA4B-4daf-81E4-DFEE4931A4AA} - C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarmSB\bar\1.bin\SPYBLOCK.DLL
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] "C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DownloadAccelerator] "C:\Program Files\DAP\DAP.EXE" /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ZoneAlarm Client] "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpySweeper] "C:\Program Files\Webroot\Spy Sweeper\SpySweeperUI.exe" /startintray
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSConfig] C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\MSConfig.exe /auto
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] "C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] "C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: Sitecom Wireless Utility.lnk = C:\Program Files\Sitecom\Sitecom Wireless Network USB Adapter Turbo G WL-172\Installer\WLANUTL.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Clean Traces - C:\Program Files\DAP\Privacy Package\dapcleanerie.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download with &DAP - C:\Program Files\DAP\dapextie.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Search - http://edits.mywebsearch.com/toolbaredits/menusearch.jhtml?p=ZKxdm011YYGB
O8 - Extra context menu item: Download &all with DAP - C:\Program Files\DAP\dapextie2.htm
O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.exe.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei-3/WebfettiInitialSetup1.0.1.0.cab
O16 - DPF: {1E54D648-B804-468d-BC78-4AFFED8E262E} (System Requirements Lab) - http://www.srtest.com/srl_bin/sysreqlab3.cab
O16 - DPF: {48DD0448-9209-4F81-9F6D-D83562940134} (MySpace Uploader Control) - http://lads.myspace.com/upload/MySpaceUploader1006.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1207949958653
O16 - DPF: {67A5F8DC-1A4B-4D66-9F24-A704AD929EEE} (System Requirements Lab) - http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/sysreqlab2.cab
O16 - DPF: {67DABFBF-D0AB-41FA-9C46-CC0F21721616} (DivXBrowserPlugin Object) - http://download.divx.com/player/DivXBrowserPlugin.cab
O16 - DPF: {E862C832-3A5F-4CEB-BFAA-167B22010A71} (InfosFinder2.InfosFinder) - http://support.packardbell.com/files/activex/InfosFinder2.CAB
O23 - Service: Lavasoft Ad-Aware Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\aawservice.exe
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: VideoAcceleratorService - Speedbit Ltd. - C:\PROGRA~1\SPEEDB~1\VideoAcceleratorService.exe
O23 - Service: TrueVector Internet Monitor (vsmon) - Zone Labs, LLC - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
O23 - Service: Webroot Spy Sweeper Engine (WebrootSpySweeperService) - Webroot Software, Inc. (www.webroot.com) - C:\Program Files\Webroot\Spy Sweeper\SpySweeper.exe
O23 - Service: Wireless Adapter Configurator - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\BT Business Hub\Wireless Configuration\WirelessDaemon.exe

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Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: ChrisXPPro on September 06, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Right now no major thoughts on this but .....

Have to wonder in that long time to get to desktop - what are the ''phases'' seen and durations?  How long to get to each screen phase in other words (approx).

Only time I suffered an extended boot - and it was not that long (quite!) - my CPU was being hogged as tho 'some' process was running causing it.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Saviour on September 06, 2008, 12:12:59 PM
Now all we need is a specialist to read your log.  Unfortunately, I'm not the one, but at least you posted it for the right individuals to take a look at.

Be patient...and someone will be here to help you.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 12:16:24 PM
Right now no major thoughts on this but .....

Have to wonder in that long time to get to desktop - what are the ''phases'' seen and durations?  How long to get to each screen phase in other words (approx).

Only time I suffered an extended boot - and it was not that long (quite!) - my CPU was being hogged as tho 'some' process was running causing it.

I think i get what you mean.

Well, first it goes to the Packard Bell intro screen (Where i can go to my bios, boot devices etc.

Orginaly that took about 10 seconds, now it takes 14 minutes.

Next it goes the Windows XP "Scrolling bar" screen, that takes 41 minutes. Where before it took about 20 seconds.

After that, it goes to a black screen for 5 minutes. Before, literally 3-5 seconds.

Lastly, it goes to the "Welcome Screen", for 16 minutes, then the destop comes on.

Is that what you wanted to know? And to Saviour...

Now all we need is a specialist to read your log.  Unfortunately, I'm not the one, but at least you posted it for the right individuals to take a look at.

Be patient...and someone will be here to help you.

Thanks. I'll be patient.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: ChrisXPPro on September 06, 2008, 12:34:53 PM
Thx for the info - yes that was what I was wondering.

However, it does seem from that as tho every stage is extended and right now that leaves me without useful ideas.  I had sorta hoped just one stage was itself the real ''hog''.

There are better bains than mine here so hang in there and we'll see what comes along.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: evilfantasy on September 06, 2008, 12:50:59 PM
From what I can see it isn't a malware problem. You do however have way too many antispyware applications running. Spy Sweeper, Ad-Aware, TeaTimer and the ZoneAlarm security suite.

Disable all but Zone Alarm, and I would just uninstall Ad-Aware. Spy Sweeper, why maybe not the best is far superior to Ad-Aware.

Disable TeaTimer - http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,63105.0.html

Disable SpySweeper real time protection.

To disable SpySweeper:

Open Spysweeper click > Options over to the left then > Program Options > Uncheck "load at windows startup"

Over to the left click "shields" and Uncheck all there.

Uncheck "home page shield"

Uncheck "automatically restore default without notification"

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Do you have an XP CD?

If so, place it in your CD ROM drive and follow the instructions below:SFC - Which stands for System File Checker, retrieves the correct version of the file from %Systemroot%\System32\Dllcache or the Windows installation source files, and then replaces the incorrect file.

If you want to see what was replaced, right-click My Computer and click on Manage.
In the new window that appears, expand the Event Viewer (by clicking on the + symbol next to it) and then click on System.

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If nothing changes after all of that I would think it is a hardware problem.

Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 01:02:32 PM
From what I can see it isn't a malware problem. You do however have way too many antispyware applications running. Spy Sweeper, Ad-Aware, TeaTimer and the ZoneAlarm security suite.

Disable all but Zone Alarm, and I would just uninstall Ad-Aware. Spy Sweeper, why maybe not the best is far superior to Ad-Aware.

Disable TeaTimer - http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,63105.0.html

Disable SpySweeper real time protection.

To disable SpySweeper:

Open Spysweeper click > Options over to the left then > Program Options > Uncheck "load at windows startup"

Over to the left click "shields" and Uncheck all there.

Uncheck "home page shield"

Uncheck "automatically restore default without notification"

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Do you have an XP CD?

If so, place it in your CD ROM drive and follow the instructions below:
  • Click on Start > Run and type sfc /scannow then press Enter (note the space between scf and /scannow)
    • Let this run undisturbed until the window with the blue  progress bar goes away
SFC - Which stands for System File Checker, retrieves the correct version of the file from %Systemroot%\System32\Dllcache or the Windows installation source files, and then replaces the incorrect file.

If you want to see what was replaced, right-click My Computer and click on Manage.
In the new window that appears, expand the Event Viewer (by clicking on the + symbol next to it) and then click on System.

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If nothing changes after all of that I would think it is a hardware problem.



Okay, I've stopped all the programs except for ZoneAlarm. Secondly, I tried the command, but for some reason it says I've got the wrong CD, which is strange because I've used this CD numerous times in the past for Recovery Consoles, XP Installler and such. So I've gone to Manage then systems. There's literally hundred's of "Information" warnings. Around 50 "Error" warnings. And a few "Warning" ones. And that's just for today. Does that sound like the problem?

I can submit a "Print Screen" if you'd like.

Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: evilfantasy on September 06, 2008, 01:05:34 PM
Do you have SP3 installed? If so you will need to uninstall it to use your XP CD as it is for SP2.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
Do you have SP3 installed? If so you will need to uninstall it to use your XP CD as it is for SP2.

I don't SP3. But I think I don't even have SP2 installed. Is there anyway to check?
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: evilfantasy on September 06, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
It will say in the top part of the HijackThis log, which was left out.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
It will say in the top part of the HijackThis log, which was left out.

This?

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 20:16:04, on 23/08/2008
Platform: Windows XP  (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 (6.00.2600.0000)
Boot mode: Normal


I suppose that means I haven't got it?
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: evilfantasy on September 06, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
You don't even have SP1.

Go to http://update.microsoft.com and get all critical updates. It could take a while...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 01:23:40 PM
You don't even have SP1.

Go to http://update.microsoft.com and get all critical updates. It could take a while...

Okay thanks. I'll post again when it's done/I encounter a problem.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Saviour on September 06, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
Thanks, evil...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 05:40:11 PM
As evil said, there is only one visible infection by MyWebSearch, there is no antivirus installed, and there is none of service packs installed.
You, obviously should go ahead, and fix those issues, however, personally, I don't believe, they would mount up to 1 hour 17 minutes boot up.
My vote is for hardware problem, but let's see what's gonna happen with this computer being updated.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 06, 2008, 05:54:06 PM
As evil said, there is only one visible infection by MyWebSearch, there is no antivirus installed, and there is none of service packs installed.
You, obviously should go ahead, and fix those issues, however, personally, I don't believe, they would mount up to 1 hour 17 minutes boot up.
My vote is for hardware problem, but let's see what's gonna happen with this computer being updated.

What about AVG? That's an anti-virus.

Anyway, SP2 is installing now. Taking a hidously long time. Might have to leave it on overnight.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 06:15:47 PM
Hmm...I don't see any AVG in your HJT log.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 06, 2008, 06:46:24 PM
The fact that the POST takes 14 minutes raises read flags toward hardware- or possibly a defective hard drive...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: patio on September 06, 2008, 06:50:17 PM
Or a faulty egg timer...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 06, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
Or a faulty egg timer...

Indeed- in that case they will need to consult a qualified egg timer repair consultant, who can advise them on how to fix the defects present within said egg timer.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Broni on September 06, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
Ehh, just wrong sand :)
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 07, 2008, 04:12:21 AM
Well, I've installed SP2. It did load quicker mind, not by much, about 20 minutes.

But wouldn't a Hardware Failure effect the perfomance of the computer while I'm working, not just during start-up?
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: patio on September 07, 2008, 06:47:45 AM
Re-boot the machine...
Go to Start/Run and type in sfc /scannow and hit Enter...
Have your XP CD handy as it will ask for it...
Let it run to completion.
Remove the XP CD and re-boot.

If this does not show improvement then:  Repair Install of XP (http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm)
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 07, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
Re-boot the machine...
Go to Start/Run and type in sfc /scannow and hit Enter...
Have your XP CD handy as it will ask for it...
Let it run to completion.
Remove the XP CD and re-boot.

If this does not show improvement then:  Repair Install of XP (http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm)

I tried that, but It just says you got the wrong CD, it's strange, because I've used recovery console and even installed my windows xp on that disk.

I'm going to try and get the Recovery Console working and FIXBOOT. If that doesn't work, I'll just have to do a repair.
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: patio on September 07, 2008, 10:08:09 AM
What service pack is listed on that XP CD ? ?
This may be why it won't work...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: GameKingX on September 07, 2008, 10:30:05 AM
Good news, it's all fixed and loading nicely now. The cure was...sadly...SP2.  :-[

But thank you for your help people, SP2 would of been the last thing I installed if it wasn't for you people.  So thanks.  ;)

Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Broni on September 07, 2008, 10:33:01 AM
I'm really glad, that....I was wrong :)
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: ChrisXPPro on September 07, 2008, 10:39:30 AM
Quote
Good news, it's all fixed and loading nicely now.

Good news indeed.  :)
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: Saviour on September 07, 2008, 10:41:15 AM
Glad to hear it, as well...
Title: Re: Hour long bootup
Post by: patio on September 07, 2008, 09:40:13 PM
Excellent ...