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Title: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on November 26, 2008, 09:25:23 AM
I have a compaq the model # is 5BW120 2HODTY9616F an I'm tring to install 98 on it but it says that it cant find a drive when I have a western connected.  I connected a maxtor an it gives me 1782 disk controller failure this error an the drive works in other machines an such.  I got this machine free an the info on the side is gone. 
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: BC_Programmer on November 26, 2008, 11:45:11 AM
SATA?
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on November 26, 2008, 12:04:08 PM
IDE its fairly old made for 95/98
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: BC_Programmer on November 26, 2008, 01:07:52 PM
Ahh- Does the drive show up in the BIOS? How large is the drive?

during that time I believe there was an 8GB BIOS limitation- anything over that might not be recognized or would freeze the system during the post.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: fgdn17 on November 26, 2008, 03:18:49 PM
if something like 2k ???/xp was on the disk before THEN you need to reformat
it...it's formatted as NTFS which 98 will not recognize...so get a W98 boot floppy
and format the disk as fat32 first...then place your CD in and try again...should recognize the disk...!!!
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 01, 2008, 10:30:41 AM
if something like 2k ???/xp was on the disk before THEN you need to reformat
it...it's formatted as NTFS which 98 will not recognize...so get a W98 boot floppy
and format the disk as fat32 first...then place your CD in and try again...should recognize the disk...!!!

Yes however even though the boot order is set to do the hd last or first it still wont.  I already now that its 2k formatted, I format my drives every time I want to put a new os on any ways. 
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: fgdn17 on December 01, 2008, 11:29:21 AM

Yes however even though the boot order is set to do the hd last or first it still wont.  I already now that its 2k formatted, I format my drives every time I want to put a new os on any ways. 

format the disk in FAT32.....then try it.....don't format in NTFS(2k/xp)
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 01, 2008, 11:49:04 AM
if something like 2k ???/xp was on the disk before THEN you need to reformat
it...it's formatted as NTFS which 98 will not recognize...so get a W98 boot floppy
and format the disk as fat32 first...then place your CD in and try again...should recognize the disk...!!!

Yes however even though the boot order is set to do the hd last or first it still wont.  I already now that its 2k formatted, I format my drives every time I want to put a new os on any ways. 
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: fgdn17 on December 01, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
and you set it active after formatting as fat32 correct???
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: patio on December 01, 2008, 07:46:45 PM
Active or not if formatted properly it will show up...
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: fgdn17 on December 01, 2008, 08:51:26 PM
Active or not if formatted properly it will show up...

not true...a disk that is NOT SET ACTIVE will sometimes NOT SHOW...try it...

been there done that!!!
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: patio on December 02, 2008, 12:14:16 AM
I disagree.

All the active switch does is make it bootable.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 02, 2008, 02:53:54 PM
So I should try that then?  I shouldnt have to preformat it, when the windows installer comes up it should be asking or even changes the format while its installing.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: patio on December 02, 2008, 03:04:37 PM
Not neccessary...the Windows setup/install will automatically create the active partition.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 02, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
Thats what I ment couldnt really explain it, multitasking an such.  But do you think activeating it or what will work then?
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 02, 2008, 04:22:17 PM
Squall- can you give us more information about this machine?

memory? what drives are connected? etc.


And it does show up during the POST, correct?

how large is the drive?

98 or 98SE?

try running fdisk (from a 98 boot disk) and deleting all partitions on the drive- assuming you have no important data on them- and try running windows setup again.



Active or not if formatted properly it will show up...

not true...a disk that is NOT SET ACTIVE will sometimes NOT SHOW...try it...

been there done that!!!

The drive won't show in explorer, but can easily be seen using a disk utility such as Disk management or Fdisk. The file system will just be listed as unknown, or RAW, and depending on the disk utility, the size could be incorrect (but not due to the fact that it is unsupported, rather this would be because of limitations in the BIOS and/or disk partitioning tool)
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
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Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 02, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
I'll get that information then give me a little bit.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 05, 2008, 09:07:57 AM
It has a cd drive, floppy, uses on board audio an video, 128 mb of ram 20 gb maxtor ide drive, socket 370 celeron, win 98,nic
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: street1 (RIP) on December 05, 2008, 03:48:39 PM
In my reply #16 you will see that you must use a CD boot ISO to get this
right unless you already have a Win98 floppy bootdisk.

Nothing wrong with the older machine.

Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 08, 2008, 09:13:23 AM
I'm booting from the cd drive Its set in the post why would I use a floppy?
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: street1 (RIP) on December 10, 2008, 03:49:06 AM
Insert the Windows 98 Startup disk'Floppy Disk" in the floppy disk drive, and then restart your computer.
When the Microsoft Windows 98 Startup menu is displayed, choose the Start computer without CD-ROM support option, and then press ENTER.
At a command prompt, type fdisk, and then press ENTER.
If the hard disk is larger than 512 MB, you receive the following prompt:
Your computer has a disk larger than 512 MB. This version of Windows includes improved support for large disks, resulting in more efficient use of disk space on large drives, and allowing disks over 2 GB to be formatted as a single drive.

This is from Microsoft but, you can use a floppy disk ISO written to a blank
CD.


Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 10, 2008, 08:29:58 AM
i dont have a floppy with the os on it.  I do have fdisk. 
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: street1 (RIP) on December 10, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
i dont have a floppy with the os on it.  I do have fdisk. 

Explain in more detail.Where do you have fdisk?
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: patio on December 10, 2008, 07:26:12 PM
On a floppy...
In the machine...
On the PSP...

It's hard to tell.
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: Lovely-Legs on December 11, 2008, 11:03:10 AM
squall where is your boot device? ;D
Title: Re: Compaq Issues
Post by: squall_01 on December 11, 2008, 02:54:30 PM
sorry is on a floppy disk , in general I would have to boot from that drive then.  Going to tackle this matter soon