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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: Accessless on January 19, 2009, 03:46:11 AM
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Do the more modern dells use a SATA+Power connector (as in one combined data & power cable) in the CD drives?
The situation is that my grandad has a Dell but wants to but in a second internal HDD via the CD connection but it looks like Dell have a special Power+SATA connection.
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No one knows?
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If you mean that the connector currently available looks like the business end of the attached image then that's a fairly common type of combined sata data+power connector.
You could try the current connector in any sata hdd to find out if Ding Dong Dell has modified the conn.
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I cannot comment on the most current Dell Desktop computers. However my Dell XPS WHL (about 2004 vintage) has 2 SATA data connectors on the MOBO (no cables provided) and no SATA power connectors coming off the original power supply. I don't know if this has changed in their product line. An alternative to a SATA power connector is a 4 pin ide connector to SATA adaptor when no SATA powerr connection is available. However should that be a requirement a word of caution.The adapter will only provide a 5/12 volt availability. If 3 volt is necessary for the device it will not be available with the adapter configuration.truenorth
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It's not the same as dusty's pic. Just looks like a normal SATA connector but the CD drive that it was attached to did not appear to have a power cable attached.
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I'm pretty sure the anwser is no but can anythng be powered by a nomal SATA connection?
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Accessless, I am afraid i don't know what your last post is saying.
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I'm pretty sure the anwser is no but can anythng be powered by a nomal SATA connection?
What is the "no" you are reffering too? Again what are you asking when you ask"can anything etc" what do you mean?The short answer to the last is "no" only SATA devices can be powered by a normal SATA connection--but surely that is not your question? truenorth
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It's not the same as dusty's pic. Just looks like a normal SATA connector but the CD drive that it was attached to did not appear to have a power cable attached.
Are you sure you're not viewing a combined sata power/data connector? How many pins does this connector have?
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Accessless, I am afraid i don't know what your last post is saying.
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I'm pretty sure the anwser is no but can anythng be powered by a nomal SATA connection?
What is the "no" you are reffering too? Again what are you asking when you ask"can anything etc" what do you mean?The short answer to the last is "no" only SATA devices can be powered by a normal SATA connection--but surely that is not your question? truenorth
My question was: Can a device i.e. a CD drive or HDD, recieve power to operate from a SATA connection. I believe the answer to be no.
Better?
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It's not the same as dusty's pic. Just looks like a normal SATA connector but the CD drive that it was attached to did not appear to have a power cable attached.
Are you sure you're not viewing a combined sata power/data connector? How many pins does this connector have?
From what I saw (remember I don't have this PC in front of me) it looked like a normal SATA connection. Maybe a slightly thicker cable but the connector looked exactly like a normal SATA connector.
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To the best of my knowledge 2 cables are required to service a SATA device.1.A SATA data transfer cable and 2. A SATA power supply cable. Due to the proximity of these connections on the hardware device HDD,DVD,CD etc. it is possible that the 2 required plugins may be combined on one cable (but will still need to physically go into the 2 separate connectors on the device. I am still not sure what your confusion is about the "SATA connector"? If you remember that 2 things are required =data transfer and power then obviously at data cable alone or a power cable alone will not suffice. There are a multitude of configurations of the 2 above cable options (including 2 different types of SATA ). It depends on your physical requirements (IE; whether a right angle plug is needed or not). The length of the cable to conform to computer attachment points. The availability of SATA power connectors from the PSU (a problem in my case--requiring an adaptor). I do hope i am being of some assistance but to tell the truth i am having some problem still trying to get a handle on what it is your trying to determine.Have you talked to Dell about this?truenorth
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From what I saw (remember I don't have this PC in front of me) it looked like a normal SATA connection. Maybe a slightly thicker cable but the connector looked exactly like a normal SATA connector.
Neither do we have the pc in front of us and we have never even seen it.
What do you mean by "a normal SATA connector"? Sata drives "normally" have two connectors, one for data and the other for power. The data connector has 7 pinouts, the power connector has 15 but both can be molded into one connector and still be interchangable between different Sata devices. The combined connector is shown in the image I posted where both data and power cables are fed to the one combined connector. This is also a "normal" Sata connector.
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The drive may be in a hot swap dock which supplies the power...but again we have no details.
There are no SATA drives that only have one connector that i know of.
However...
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A normal data connection. No power connection found.
However?
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Not something i am accustomed to admitting but---- i give up.truenorth
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A normal data connection. No power connection found.
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And does this powerless cd drive actually work? An image of the connectors on the back of the unit would be a great help.
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I think the drive was thrown away after it failed from general use. I.e. it used to work.
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Uhuh! It possibly used to have a power cable attached too...
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Not unless it was magically vaporised after the CD drive was removed. There was no trace of one (which leads up to the point of why I am confused).
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I promised myself i had quit this never ending merry go round--but i am going to try one more kick at this can.I have already told you that MY DELL XPS does NOT have a SATA power connection ability (even though it has 2 SATA data connections on the MOBO) So the removal of my SATA DVD/RW drive would not need to have the SATA power connector "vaporized".It never had one. Doesn't mean it didn't need power (as seems to be the poster's suggestion). In my case (remember the question was about DELL) it is necessary to use a 4 pin ide to SATA adapter to obtain power. Are we all speaking the same language here?truenorth
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I promised myself i had quit this never ending merry go roundabout i am going to try one more kick at this can.I have already told you that MY DELL XPS does NOT have a SATA power connection ability (even though it has 2 SATA data connections on the MOBO) So the removal of my SATA DVD/RW drive would not need to have the SATA power connector "vaporized".It never had one. Doesn't mean it didn't need power (as seems to be the poster's suggestion). In my case (remember the question was about DELL) it is necessary to use a 4 pin ide to SATA adapter to obtain power. Are we all speaking the same language here?truenorth
No there are no free power connectors, not even standard IDE 5-12v. Ok I obviously need to re-examine the PC and see what else I can dig up as SATA data connections do not supply a viable power supply for any sort of known drive. Until then thread on hold...