Computer Hope
Other => Other => Topic started by: Broni on February 06, 2009, 08:44:24 PM
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Maybe someone will explain it to me, because no matter what I try, I'm not getting it.
I've been testing 7 for over 2 months, and I really don't see much difference from Vista.
What is so much better?
On a top of it, I can see, the most excited people, are often those, who never used Vista, used it for couple of days, and already hated it. Now, they're falling in love with Windows 7.
I've been using Vista for 1 1/2 years, and I simply like it a lot.
It's as stable as XP, and as for the GUI, frankly speaking, I prefer Vista.
So, now, let me know.
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Maybe Windows 7 will be a free update if
you paid retail for Vista
Would that excite you? ::)
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That's not my question.
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Maybe Windows 7 will be a free update if
you paid retail for Vista
I highly doubt there will be free upgrades.
What also gets me is they are treating the (mostly cracked) beta's like they are the full version. Why won't this and that work... Because it's BETA and you are supposed to give FEEDBACK to MS on what doesn't work! HellOOOOOO
I agree with Broni *shocking I know ;) You need to get a grip here people.
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Also, most of those installations are pristine.
Just OS. No extra programs, no extra startups, no extra services, and those excited are: WOW! Man, it's fast!
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That's not my question.
Well, if Vista is stable, and if Windows 7 is like it, maybe if I ever shell out again for a MS OS I will go for the Windows 7 and be at least up where others are. I have a long history.. ah I already told you that. You know. NT, then 2000, then XP. I just could not read the books fast enough. And tjey were expensive.
So now here I am on XP because this last box I bought has a legal load of XP on it. Lat Time I bought a real factory PC it came with Windows ME!
So, yeah, I am own of those poor soul that can not afford Vista and I just now got a decent box with XP. So, if Windows 7 is for real, and it works, and if it will be around for awhile, just maybe I just might fork up the money and my family will eat rice and beans for two months. 8)
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I'll be sticking to XP probably until support for it ends. I won't pirate an OS and can't justify $250 for bells and whistles when XP does everything I need it to. By then 7 should be down to a reasonable price.
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Win2k, in my opinion, is the most stable and reliable operating system, that Microsoft has ever released.
I could care less about 7.
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BINGO !
On a top of it, I can see, the most excited people, are often those, who never used Vista, used it for couple of days, and already hated it. Now, they're falling in love with Windows 7.
You inadvertantly answered your own question....
However (http://www.sevenforums.com/news/584-windows-7-feature-focus.html)
here is a list of the new and updated features...some of which may or may not exist in the BETA release...
To be honest about it pre-releasing the BETA was one of the best marketing schemes this decade as individuals are doing all their advertising for them while the release is still 10 months away....priceless.
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This is a nice list, however most of those items are like.....WOW! Unbelievable! Just for this one feature, Win 7 is definitely the best OS ever!
For instance:
Calculator. The Windows Calculator utility inexplicably receives a major upgrade in Windows 7 with calculation history, unit conversion, calculation templates, data calculations, and other new features.
WOW!
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For instance:
Calculator. The Windows Calculator utility inexplicably receives a major upgrade in Windows 7 with calculation history, unit conversion, calculation templates, data calculations, and other new features.
WOW!
The funny part is it comes from people who never even used the calculator from previous versions- and won't be using this version either. Besides- if they really need something like that in a previous version- there IS this thing called freeware. I'm sure the old graphing program I wrote using VB2 is still floating around there somewhere...
I'll be sticking to XP probably until support for it ends.
Why not longer! :) That's what I'm doing with Visual Studio 6! support officially ended september last year.
Does anybody know if MSVBVM60.dll is included with Windows 7? MS promised it would be in Vista... but of course no such promise was made for 7.
As far as people who say vista is slow are concerned- I had the same initial view when I first booted up my laptop with home premium. I knew after the 20 minutes it took to start and boot to the desktop that I would need to clean format...
I was presented with a Norton 360 dialog...
I blame the manufacturers for bastardizing clean installs with anything more then drivers and REAL software applications. None of this, "face recognition" program BS. USEFUL programs. If I wanted "face recognition" to log on, I would freakin' download the program myself. I guarantee that although sales for Windows 7 will be much higher then Vista- the Vista-haters will be just as disappointed.
As patio said- it's really more a clever marketing scheme to allow free download of the beta- and, given that Vista has garnered more negative publicity about "issues" (which existed any more then in previous OS releases) that they release this public beta. It's important to note that Microsoft, IIRC, has NEVER released an OS completely free of charge to the public (usually just MSDN subscribers). The final slap in the face would be Microsoft spokespeople saying that it is likely what will be released as the final version- IE: only showstopping bugs. Oddly- this matching up more for a Release candidate then a Beta.
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The funny part is it comes from people who never even used the calculator from previous versions
Only recently, I fiund a calculator button on my keyboard, but I don't need it anyway, since when I went to school, they taught you how to count.
Not anymore, I guess (go to the grocery store, get 1 exotic beer out of 6-pack, and see, if the clerk can figure out what the price is ;D)
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There are some nice new features other than Calculator...
And no ...i'm not just drinking the Kool-Aid.
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The funny part is it comes from people who never even used the calculator from previous versions
Not entirely true. You can use the calculator as a web browser to bypass a schools web filters. The calculator is a huge hit.
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Exactly! It's so sad- one of my co-workers is so acedemically challenged...
something costs 1.68 over 60% of the people who come in buy it. And yet everytime they give her a toonie, (2 dollars for the uninformed on canadian currency), she has to ring it into the till to find out... OMG! the difference is STILL 32 cents!...
Some of the customers like to screw with her head... give her a toonie, wait until she does that, and THEN say, "oh, I have 68 cents here...".
I mean... it's simple subtraction for god's sake...
And I don't think she's the only one... sometimes when the tills aren't working proper or something, I'll find little scraps of paper with text like this:
2.00
- 1.68
Even worse they will have the actual "borrowing" marks (cross out 2, give the tens spot ten, etc...)... it's so sad it makes me weep a little without shedding actual tears.
Which is why I screw with their head. Some of them think they are "really good" at math, so I'll ask them, "alright smarty, what's 2 to the power of 31" and they'll say, I dunno, bet you can't fig..."
"16,777,216"
LOL. so much fun to memorize powers of 2...
There are some nice new features other than Calculator...
And no ...i'm not just drinking the Kool-Aid.
Indeed- for example, I like the new label, "windows 7" it has an almost "retro" feel, going back to version numbers.
The funny part is it comes from people who never even used the calculator from previous versions
Not entirely true. You can use the calculator as a web browser to bypass a schools web filters. The calculator is a huge hit.
Seriously? In the old versions? how the heck would that work?
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...i'm not just drinking the Kool-Aid.
That explains everything (including golfing in the rain) ;D
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Even worse they will have the actual "borrowing" marks (cross out 2, give the tens spot ten, etc...)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Haven't done it in a while. Something like opening the Help feature and then typing in a url into the search field.
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Haven't done it in a while. Something like opening the Help feature and then typing in a url into the search field.
True- probably would work somehow- the help is a CHM... but on the other hand, that means it would likely work with notepad. as well- or any program with CHM based help.
I know what it was- it opens CHM help of some sort, and then you click on the control icon in the top+left, and select "Jump to URL"
I remember this annoying feature because I kept hitting it when trying to click Close when the program was minimized. I've always disliked programs that change the sysmenu.
Even worse they will have the actual "borrowing" marks (cross out 2, give the tens spot ten, etc...)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
It actually made me weep a little to think that these people were actually part of my generation... I told them "requiring" graphing calculators for Grade 11 and 12 was a huge mistake. Just taught them about the TI-83, not the bloody math. I'm probably the only one who even knew WHAT a standard deviation WAS, aside from a bloody function on the calculator. GRRRR.
of course with the calculator AND know what the heck was going on I just wrote TI-BASIC programs for each kind of question- which presented the answer in several ways that might be requested on the test. Saved a lot of time on most questions- even those that required me to "show my work" since the program DID show it's work... and I copied it... heh heh.
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I typed in computerhope in the Help field in Calculator and got the answer to 2 to the power of 31....
Coincidence ? ?
I think not...
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Right....
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4303968.gif)
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...or...
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4303969.gif)
Who the heck will I ask? Bill?
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There is an article about it in PC Magazine, Jan. '09....Same as Vista But it's s'pose ta Shut up & shut down faster than Vista ????? Does It ????? Got me Wondering...