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Title: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 16, 2009, 09:36:52 PM
I know, I know, there were many of them, and it's really hard to select those, you like the most.
Obviously, someone may complain about incomplete list, but surely, I couldn't make it a mile long :)
So, I'm gonna be generous, and you can select up to 5 musicians.
It's pretty hard too, but....
....here are my choices:
Hendrix
Vaughn
Page
Beck
Satriani
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Aegis on May 16, 2009, 09:52:47 PM
Doyle Dykes, Chet Atkins, Les Paul, Andy McKee.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 17, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
I havnt herd of most of em so I chose the ones I did.
hendrix
clapton
page
richards
santana
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 17, 2009, 12:51:38 PM
What about, Gary Rossington, Ed King And/or Allan Collins?

or, Brian May or Roger Taylor?

Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 17, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
who?  ??? ???
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 17, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
tssk tssk, CR. tssk tssk.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hiloed on May 17, 2009, 05:02:32 PM


Anybody here ever heard of Andres Segovia?
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 17, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Off your list:

Clapton.
Beck
Page
Hendrix
Stevie.

Not on the list but Honorable Mention:

Al DiMeola
Les Paul
Zappa
Dicky Betts
Todd Sharp

These are in random order both categories...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 17, 2009, 06:08:48 PM
Need to add Randy Rhodes and Stevie Via.

I can't vote without Randy Rhodes. Steve Via is optional :)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Karnac on May 17, 2009, 06:23:52 PM
In 1971, in Montreal, I hired Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush to play for a youth organization fund raiser......I paid him and the band $550.....I still to this day have the contract......The deal was minimum $150 or 70% of the gate....He was every young guitarists idol......and his ability to emulate Hendrix was unbelievable.......Truly one of the most under rated guitarists of all time......The story of Frank Marino was he woke up in a hospital bed, asked for a guitar and started to play.....Just watching some of the old videos gave me shivers.........he still tours, so if you can see him, don't miss him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzna-QPmqM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtsHWEvL6g&feature=PlayList&p=7D3D3289B25186DC&index=15

http://mahoganyrush.com/#
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 17, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
In 1971, in Montreal, I hired Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush to play for a youth organization fund raiser......

The internet is a strange place. I would have guessed you to be much younger than you actually are, no offense! ;)

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Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Karnac on May 17, 2009, 06:35:20 PM
None taken.....I've just retired.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 17, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
I saw Frank Marino 3 times at local Pubs here...enjoyed every minute...
I think the highest cover charge was 4 Bucks...and we b====ed about that at the time.... 8)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 17, 2009, 07:59:35 PM
OMG!! I just noticed the lead guitarist of metallica is on there! I change my votes and am voting for him.  Were did the remove votes go!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 17, 2009, 08:38:35 PM
It took Kirk Hammett a long time to get where he is now artistically. Extremely talented, yes. But he is a James Hetfield protege...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 17, 2009, 09:14:50 PM
Obviously, I said at the beginning, the list is never ending.
If I have few free minutes, I may update it with the names you mentioned.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: JJ 3000 on May 17, 2009, 10:53:33 PM
It took Kirk Hammett a long time to get where he is now artistically. Extremely talented, yes. But he is a James Hetfield protege...

What??
Hammet is Joe Satriani's protege.
He was already an accomplished guitarist before he joined Metallica.
James and Lars had gotten rid of Dave Mustaine on their way to New York to record Kill 'Em All. The record company (Megaforce) flew Kirk in to take Dave's place.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 18, 2009, 12:26:04 AM
Trust me, I know the history of Metallica :)

Hetfield wrote and recorded (almost) all of both lead and rhythm guitar parts up until The Black Album. It wasn't until then that James and Lars started giving him creative freedom. Kirk is extremely talented and might have done as good a job as James but that we will never know. That's also a big reason Jason Newsted left the band. He wanted to do small side projects during their down time but James wouldn't allow him to do anything other than be the Metallica bassist. James and Lars both are a couple of control freaks.

On one of their TV specials Kirk vents about how hard it was for him because when he did get to record both James and Lars would be over his shoulder wagging their fingers at him if he wasn't doing exactly as they wanted.




Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: JJ 3000 on May 18, 2009, 01:08:50 AM
Are you saying that James played all of the solos on all of those albums?

He may have technically written the guitar parts, but I find it hard to believe that he actually performed them. He isn't nearly fast enough to pull that off. If he was that technically proficient - there would be no "lead guitarist" in the band. James would just be the only guitar player.

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On one of their TV specials Kirk vents about how hard it was for him because when he did get to record both James and Lars would be over his shoulder wagging their fingers at him if he wasn't doing exactly as they wanted.
Which is to say, that neither of them could do it themselves. 

Besides, if you listen to "No Life Till Leather" and "Kill 'Em All", back to back. You can tell a huge difference in the solos. Hammet brought his own style to the band. And when you get into "Ride The Lightning" you can definitely hear Kirk's influence on the music.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 18, 2009, 09:58:09 AM
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Are you saying that James played all of the solos on all of those albums

Yes he wrote and recorded most of it. In the recording studio he can do it all. But he can't do it all on stage...

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Metallica (1981-present) - http://www.answers.com/topic/james-hetfield

Until the mid-1990s, Hetfield recorded all rhythm tracks and most harmony tracks. Since the recording of Load, Kirk Hammett is recording rhythm guitars as well. James occasionally plays guitar solos, too, such as "Nothing Else Matters", the outro solo on "The Outlaw Torn", the second solo on "To Live Is to Die", the second solo on "Orion" and the first interlude solo on "Master of Puppets". He also writes the majority of the guitar harmonies, as well as writing the lyrics, vocal melodies, and co-arranging the songs with Ulrich.

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If he was that technically proficient - there would be no "lead guitarist" in the band. James would just be the only guitar player.

That was Dave Mustane. He plays lead and sings. Nobody can play lead and rhythm guitar live!

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Besides, if you listen to "No Life Till Leather" and "Kill 'Em All", back to back. You can tell a huge difference in the solos.

That's because both Mustane and Hetfield were writing music on that album. Remember Mustane never got to record with Metallica but he did write some of the music they used.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Aegis on May 18, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
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Nobody can play lead and rhythm guitar live!

Oh, I don't know about that...some players get amazing sounds just playing solo.



Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 18, 2009, 10:04:22 AM
Al DiMeola can...i've seen it many times...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 18, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
OK maybe Nobody is too broad of a statement. Nobody can do Metallica songs playing both lead and backup live ;)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 18, 2009, 10:32:45 AM
Now i see what you meant...

   ;)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: JJ 3000 on May 18, 2009, 05:17:09 PM
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Until the mid-1990s, Hetfield recorded all rhythm tracks and most harmony tracks. Since the recording of Load, Kirk Hammett is recording rhythm guitars as well. James occasionally plays guitar solos, too, such as "Nothing Else Matters", the outro solo on "The Outlaw Torn", the second solo on "To Live Is to Die", the second solo on "Orion" and the first interlude solo on "Master of Puppets". He also writes the majority of the guitar harmonies, as well as writing the lyrics, vocal melodies, and co-arranging the songs with Ulrich.

Yes, I know that. James does not play the good solos. You can definitely tell a Hetfeild solo. They suck! Like the solos on Nothing Else Matters and Breadfan. They are slow and sloppy. That article that you cited doesn't say the James plays all of the solos, it says that he "occasionally" plays some solos (the crappy ones).

What I'm saying is, Kirk does play almost all of the solos on the studio recordings of almost every one of those songs.


He may have technically written the guitar parts, but I find it hard to believe that he actually performed them. He isn't nearly fast enough to pull that off. If he was that technically proficient - there would be no "lead guitarist" in the band. James would just be the only guitar player.

What I was saying there is that if James could play those parts, there would not be any rhythm parts of the songs. He is so egotistical that he would not let someone else show him up. The band would just be a four piece, with no rhythm guitar during the solos.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: evilfantasy on May 18, 2009, 05:26:14 PM
Not trying to argue but the quote pretty much sums it up.

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Until the mid-1990s, Hetfield recorded all rhythm tracks and most harmony tracks.

I sometimes wish they would have never done the TV special where James was having issues with being a rock star. I would rather not know how much of an a-hole he can be. I like the aggressive rockstar he was he liked being a rock star.... :P
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: BatchFileBasics on May 18, 2009, 10:41:23 PM
Jimi Hendrix - the craziness
Kurt Cobain - the attitude
Carlos Santana - the passion
John Frusciante - idk, hes just kickass   ;D
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 19, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
I wanna change my vote  >:(
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hot dog on May 20, 2009, 12:37:23 AM
Dic* Dale!    "King of the Surf guitar"


I don't see my guy up there, but if I have to choose one of them, it would be Hendrix.
I like the psychedelic stuff


edit: and it looks like Hendrix is winning
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hot dog on May 20, 2009, 05:04:19 AM
I wanna change my vote  >:(

lol
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 20, 2009, 01:17:31 PM
he has no votes! I wanna get rid of richards
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 20, 2009, 01:26:23 PM
Knopfler was a nice late addition....
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 21, 2009, 07:45:50 AM
Roy Buchanan
John MacLaughlin
Robin Trower
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 21, 2009, 06:34:04 PM
John MacLaughlin...totally forgot about this great one...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: JJ 3000 on May 21, 2009, 10:18:11 PM
I vote for Ralph Macchio
Check him out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BkhXAmM3U
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hot dog on May 22, 2009, 12:39:19 AM
I vote for Ralph Macchio
Check him out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BkhXAmM3U

i saw this movie before, I had to watch that seen again so I clicked! 8)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on May 22, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
Since I can ;) I added Tom Morello, just couldn't help myself. :) Hope you don't mind Broni. Also edited the poll so users can change their votes.

My multiple votes:
Tom Morello, Jimi Hendrix, Carlos Santana

Tom Morello vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogtDaTwERU

Never heard of, John MacLaughlin but can definately see now after watching a few videos why he'd be considered as well.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 22, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
Nathan Mahivishnu Orchestra will generate some more tasty hits...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: harry 48 on May 22, 2009, 04:32:09 PM
i agree with BCP or, Brian May or Roger Taylor and also hank marvin , but they are all

british so you may not have heard of them

Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Ironman on May 22, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
Randy Rhodes
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s241/x_javi/Randy-Rhoads.jpg)

B.B. King
(http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t054/T054625A.jpg)

Eric Clapton
(http://blog.lib.umn.edu/weber511/architecture/eric-clapton-picture-1.jpg)

Michael Angelo Batio
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Michael_Angelo_Batio-13163.jpg)

Tom Morello
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/uploads/Image/tom-morello-1.jpg)

Honorable Mention

Naudo
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uyqfxCRXYgw/SN7GI1s5jBI/AAAAAAAAABs/DLxdgDS0ihQ/s400/naudo+(1).jpg)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on May 26, 2009, 03:34:04 PM
Nathan Mahivishnu Orchestra will generate some more tasty hits...

Agreed. Nice.

Also nice post Ironman with the pictures of some of the favorites.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Aegis on May 26, 2009, 04:00:58 PM
I had a coworker living near me in Joliet, IL.  One afternoon, he, and some of his extended family went to the "Cracker Barrel" off I-80. 

The nice, elderly black gentleman sitting in a rocking chair outside the restaurant gave my co-worker's cute little grand-daughter (she was about four at the time) a guitar pick.

It was B.B. King.

 :)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: cat-bomb on May 26, 2009, 04:56:34 PM
what about dimebag darrell?
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 26, 2009, 05:25:21 PM
Woa! Cool story Aegis! Is B.B. still alive?
Well thanks admin so now my votes are
Hendrix
Clapton
Page
Hammett
Santana
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 26, 2009, 05:39:43 PM
Of course, he's alive. Played in Santa Cruz, CA, last weekend.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 26, 2009, 05:40:12 PM
Really?! How old is he!??
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 26, 2009, 05:52:33 PM
What about.....Google, huh? ;D
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on May 26, 2009, 06:17:07 PM
omg 82!
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 26, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
Clapton is doing a mini-tour with Stevie Winwood....
I suggest anyone close enough to the 14 cities to make all efforts to attend.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 26, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Schedule? Link?
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 27, 2009, 06:56:34 AM
Here Ya Go... (http://www.livedaily.com/news/15670.html)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 27, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
Thanks, my friend :)
June 29 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on May 28, 2009, 07:57:50 AM
Send the airfare from Our Chrome proceeds...
I think we should go in style with a Limo service...in an old VW Beetle...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: macdad- on May 28, 2009, 08:09:59 AM
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Chuck Berry

Really can't think of who else..
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Gean Freaks on May 28, 2009, 08:40:19 AM
I nominate Eric Clapton  ;D
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on May 28, 2009, 06:23:37 PM
I'll see, what I can do, my friend :)
I wanna take my sister, and her husband, but he may be little bit fussy, since it's Monday night 8PM.
Tickets are from $62.50 - $142.50 (just cheaper, than Stones....LOL)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hot dog on June 01, 2009, 01:14:50 AM
As I said, Dic* Dale is my favorite.  Since he's not in the list I voted for Jimi Hendrix.

but here's a nice little sample of DALE, for those of you who like "oldies" ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQA0CJlfN3Y
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Computer Hope Admin on June 01, 2009, 07:52:30 AM
Forgot about this kid, but I watched one of his recent posted videos and it reminded me of this thread. I have no doubt that he'll be the best guitarist ever. His name is: Sungha Jung

Link to his profile page, sorted by most viewed. (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jwcfree&view=videos&sort=v)

Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on June 01, 2009, 01:55:48 PM
Johnny and Edgar Winter were not mentioned either......what a shame.
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: computeruler on June 01, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
That kid is sooooooooooo gooood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on June 01, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
Ugh...I saw Johnny Winter at SF Fillmore Auditorium few years ago, and years of drugs took heavy toll on his physical abilities.
They had to walk him to the stage, but....he played guitar as good, as ever :)
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: patio on June 01, 2009, 05:18:28 PM
He sure could play though...
Just so you know the average lifespan for full fledged Albinos is approx. 40 years...
they both went way past that and more.
I saw Edgar on an interview taped 6 months ago and i believe he's 63 or so...
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: Broni on June 01, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
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the average lifespan for full fledged Albinos is approx. 40 years
I had no idea. I wonder why..
Edgar - 63
Johnny - 65
Title: Re: The best guitarist ever
Post by: hot dog on June 01, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
I just watched that Sungha Jung kid.  I clicked on the first video when he does U2.  FAR OUT!   The kid definitely has got talent