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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: StarBaseONE2 on September 09, 2009, 08:20:48 PM

Title: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 09, 2009, 08:20:48 PM
This is a Suma motherboard, I had not heard of them (well maybe something about memory ICs a few years back). So I am not too surprised to be having a difficult time locating info (or files) on it.

To be honest I'm not sure of the board's model (I was hoping to find out more from MFG).

I found out on-line that it's made in South Korea.

http://www.suma.co.kr (http://www.suma.co.kr)
The Reverse IP (http://www.ip2country.cc/?q=110.45.146.23) look-up comes back.
Country Name: KR - Korea, Republic of
Reverse Lookup: 110.45.146.23

Unfortunately I can't read Korean.

I am posting this in hopes someone here may have another source of info on this company, or know something that might help me find some information on 'Suma' Mobos. I have yet to determine who is an authorized sales/service center, in the USA!

Anyone know?
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 09, 2009, 09:05:01 PM
A model number would help.
Suma may also go by the name Aopen.

You may get more info on Suma by going to Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com

edit:
Are you sure it is a Suma motherboard?
It may be a BioStar.
Without the model number it is a guessing game.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 09, 2009, 09:22:18 PM
Well I have given it a good once over...And that was my best guess.

* I pulled all the IDE, PSU, and cards out of the board and carefully looked it over. And it is not plainly marked by any sense of the word. I didn't pull the board from the case. You think it would only be there?*

Where might I confirm Aopen? I am about to chase the link you suggested.

Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 09, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
I need to get on to bed. Work starts early tomorrow.

Thanks Geek-9pm, but I will have to continue this tomorrow afternoon. (I probably will get on here CH at work) but it will be when I get back home before I can pursue this further.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 09, 2009, 09:41:38 PM
Ignore what I said about Aopen. Bad guess.
Suma is a maker of memory and graphics cards. I do not think their motherboards are sold here in the USA. Perhaps in Latin America.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 09, 2009, 09:47:15 PM
Hmmmm What did you hear?

I'm not having any luck on finding info on the system board.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: JJ 3000 on September 09, 2009, 11:12:51 PM
Does the machine boot? If so, download Everest
http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

Open it, click Computer, then Summary.
In upper menu, go Report>Quick Report-Summary
Save it in text file, and paste it in your next post.
Don't include anything under line Debug - PCI
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: smeezekitty on September 09, 2009, 11:51:50 PM
doesnt anybody want to ask why
the orig poster wants to update the bios
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 10, 2009, 12:12:41 AM
Good Idea JJ! I should have thought of that!

Here is the log.

--------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]--------------------------------

    Version                                           EVEREST v2.20.405
    Homepage                                          http://www.lavalys.com/
    Report Type                                       Quick Report
    Computer                                          54697-1ON37QIJP
    Generator                                         Xxxxx Xxxx Xxxxxxx
    Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
    Date                                              2000-05-04
    Time                                              01:11


--------[ Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Motherboard Properties:
      Motherboard ID                                    11/20/2002-M787CLR-6A6LIH09C-00
      Motherboard Name                                  PCChips M787CLR

    Front Side Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Intel GTL+
      Bus Width                                         64-bit
      Real Clock                                        133 MHz
      Effective Clock                                   133 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         1066 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          SDR SDRAM
      Bus Width                                         64-bit
      Real Clock                                        133 MHz
      Effective Clock                                   133 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         1066 MB/s

    Chipset Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          PCI
      Bus Width                                         32-bit
      Real Clock                                        33 MHz
      Effective Clock                                   33 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         133 MB/s

    Motherboard Physical Info:
      CPU Sockets/Slots                                 1
      Expansion Slots                                   1 ISA, 3 PCI, 1 AMR
      RAM Slots                                         2 DIMM
      Integrated Devices                                Audio, Video, LAN, CPU
      Form Factor                                       Micro ATX
      Motherboard Size                                  190 mm x 240 mm
      Motherboard Chipset                               PLE133

    Motherboard Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Elitegroup Computer Systems
      Product Information                               http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=1&MenuID=16&LanID=0
      BIOS Download                                     http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Downloads/Category_Download.aspx?Categoryid=1&MenuID=35&LanID=0


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh the reason I am interested in a possible BIOS update is the PC is having regular "freezing" issues. The event log seems to indicate a possible problem with windows ability to keep harmony with it's installed devices. All additional ones (except integrated) *including RAM substitutions* have been removed to observe if the behavior was still present. It is.

So I thought the next logical step would be to check to see if BIOS was the most current release... and go on from there.

What do you fellas think?

Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: JJ 3000 on September 10, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
When was the last time you blew the dust out of your computer with a can of compressed air?
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 10, 2009, 12:41:55 AM
First thing when I opened it up.

Was in a non-smoking environment. So I was pleasantly surprised. very clean. Still the CPU fan had of course collected and deposited a little bit of the standard dust-linty materials in the fins of the CPU Heatsink...

I have found the web links now to supposedly check on that BIOS update. As of yet I have not gotten any info on a board as old as this one from there.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 10, 2009, 05:32:57 AM
Is this your motherboard?
http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/motherboards_d/PC%20Chips/M787CLR/

The link above also has info about the BIOS, Drivers and Manual for the PC Chips model given by Everest.

Rather that flash the bios, I would suggest you try an update for the drivers for the board, if you have not already tried that.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: StarBaseONE2 on September 10, 2009, 05:55:42 AM
That's the board alright! So my Suma done turned into a PC Chips LMAO!

Well that doesn't bother me as much as seemingly no board drivers, or BIOS upgrades being available for it!

I have worked through a plethora of XP updates that it was due. Seemingly that has helped it a bit. I will look into it more this afternoon!

Thanks for the help guys!

Good Morning to you all.
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: patio on September 10, 2009, 07:09:51 AM
OK i'll bite...
Why do you need to flash the BIOS ? ?
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: Computer_Commando on September 10, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
OK i'll bite...
Why do you need to flash the BIOS ? ?
He said "...Oh the reason I am interested in a possible BIOS update is the PC is having regular "freezing" issues. The event log seems to indicate a possible problem with windows ability to keep harmony with it's installed devices. All additional ones (except integrated) *including RAM substitutions* have been removed to observe if the behavior was still present. It is.

So I thought the next logical step would be to check to see if BIOS was the most current release... and go on from there..."


For any old computer, it's not a bad idea to see if it's using the latest BIOS.

BTW,I prefer CPU-Z  for summary of computer specs.  It will show the BIOS version on the Mainboard tab.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
Title: Re: System Board. I need to find updated BIOS for a SUMA MoBo.
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 10, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
after the Post- no BIOS code is run. Why? Because it can't run while the CPU is in Protected mode anyway, since it's real mode code.

Things that whole help:

More of the everest log

These "Event log entries" that make implications.