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Software => BSD, Linux, and Unix => Topic started by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 12:35:31 PM

Title: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 12:35:31 PM
Hey guys, I'm looking for a small, but easy to use (for a person who normally uses Win XP), linux distro. I have a 1.85 GB flashdrive that I just formatted and I've always wanted to try Linux.
Requirements:
1. Doesn't have to be too small. (~50-200MB)
2. NEEDS to be user-friendly
3. It would be nice if it came pre-packaged with programs (Firefox, etc.)
4. Easy installation (or at least easy to follow instructions).

Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 21, 2010, 05:51:50 PM
Linux Mint would be my reccomendation.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 06:03:37 PM
Linux Mint would be my reccomendation.
Ok, so how would I attach that to my flash drive? It also would be nice if it could be in a virtual machine, but LinuxLive has never worked in my tests (boot medium error with JVM java virtual machine), and Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com says the flash drive won't be bootable, so I don't know how it will work.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 21, 2010, 06:11:57 PM
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-install-from-windows/
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 06:19:52 PM
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-install-from-windows/
Linux Mint iso link was dead, so I found the newer version, but I will report back in ~2 hours.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 21, 2010, 06:36:14 PM
Linux Mint iso link was dead, so I found the newer version, but I will report back in ~2 hours.

OK, I know I used the same portable-installer thing to install a later version of the ISO, and it works.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 06:48:20 PM
OK, I know I used the same portable-installer thing to install a later version of the ISO, and it works.
Is there anyway to have it in a virtual machine? I haven't had much experience so, if possible, can you give me step by step instructions?
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 21, 2010, 07:07:18 PM
OK, I know I used the same portable-installer thing to install a later version of the ISO, and it works.
I got at least 3 data errors...and it failed to read the boot sector, causing it to fail again.

EDIT: I am not trying again, except this time I will not attempt to see why it appeared to have frozen on
EXTRACTING casper\filesystem.squashfs

Which by the way, was the first data error. The other 2 data errors occurred directly afterwords.

I retried...same errors.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on February 25, 2010, 06:24:14 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Geek-9pm on March 01, 2010, 04:59:41 PM
There are others...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

I have used DSL, Knoppix and Puppy.

Pulpy has easy instructions to put it on a USB.


Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 01, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
There are others...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

I have used DSL, Knoppix and Puppy.

Pulpy has easy instructions to put it on a USB.



It says I need burn it to a CD, AND THEN add it to a USB...is there any way to jump that step? I do have burning software, just not a cd.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Geek-9pm on March 01, 2010, 07:43:49 PM
Yes, you can install it without a CD!

Here is one solution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNetbootin
That, of course explains what can be done for many distros.

Here are two more links you should see.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1242550/how_to_install_puppy_linux_onto_a_usb.html

Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 02, 2010, 09:12:34 AM
Ok...I've tried using LinuxLive (or LiveLinux, I can't remember) and Pendrivelinux's installer and neither work. LinuxLive screws up the virtual box and Pendrive hasn't been able to make the drive bootable...I will try unetbootin soon.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 02, 2010, 04:33:54 PM
It works! Well, it at least installed fine.. :-\ I'm just feeling apprehensive about changing the bios settings, and in fact, I doubt it will even stay changed. Deepfreeze can be a real pain in the you-know-where sometimes...

Is there a way I can use it in an emulator, similar to JVM (except for some reason, that didn't work)?
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: BC_Programmer on March 02, 2010, 04:36:41 PM
It works! Well, it at least installed fine.. :-\ I'm just feeling apprehensive about changing the bios settings, and in fact, I doubt it will even stay changed. Deepfreeze can be a real pain in the you-know-where sometimes...

Is there a way I can use it in an emulator, similar to JVM (except for some reason, that didn't work)?

The JVM is for running Java programs.... I guess you mean Sun VirtualBox?

I've never had to boot USB via emulation, but if I ever needed to, it turns out that VMWare has a feature called "ACE" whereby I could place any Virtual Machine configuration on a USB flash drive and run it anywhere. Not sure if that feature is in any other VM programs.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 02, 2010, 04:46:25 PM
The JVM is for running Java programs.... I guess you mean Sun VirtualBox?

I've never had to boot USB via emulation, but if I ever needed to, it turns out that VMWare has a feature called "ACE" whereby I could place any Virtual Machine configuration on a USB flash drive and run it anywhere. Not sure if that feature is in any other VM programs.
Yes. I mean SVB...I knew it was by sun (Java), and Virtual Machine seemed to make sense.

I just want to make sure you understand what I mean for the word Emulator. I mean it runs in windows XP, but within it is what I am emulating. Like VisualBoyAdvanced for Gameboy games. If that is what you mean (because I am slightly lost at the last bit of your program [brain freeze]), then how exactly would I do that?
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: BC_Programmer on March 02, 2010, 04:54:17 PM
Yes. I mean SVB...I knew it was by sun (Java), and Virtual Machine seemed to make sense.

I just want to make sure you understand what I mean for the word Emulator. I mean it runs in windows XP, but within it is what I am emulating. Like VisualBoyAdvanced for Gameboy games. If that is what you mean (because I am slightly lost at the last bit of your program [brain freeze]), then how exactly would I do that?

well, you'd need VMWare, first.

Emulators for full blown PCs are a lot more complicated then things like Nestopia,ZSNES, Project64, epsxe, Visual Boy Advance, and so on, and unless you actually have a Virtual Machine that supports a portable install it simply won't work.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 02, 2010, 05:03:45 PM
well, you'd need VMWare, first.

Emulators for full blown PCs are a lot more complicated then things like Nestopia,ZSNES, Project64, epsxe, Visual Boy Advance, and so on, and unless you actually have a Virtual Machine that supports a portable install it simply won't work.
Well, LinuxLive (or LiveLinux) installed a portable version of Sun VB...and it would be hard to install anything with Deepfreeze (as previously mentioned)...but you never know. I was really looking for something where I could plug in my flash drive, run a program and I have a small version of linux. (I tried Mac on a stick, and that's what gave me the idea)

I looked at VMWare, and I am not really interested in any "trial" programs, or paying for any.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: ThomasTheXPUser on March 02, 2010, 08:58:46 PM
There is DARN small Linux  ;D

but that might be too small

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: JJ 3000 on March 02, 2010, 09:11:51 PM
In virtual box you just have to have the ISO file somewhere on your computer. When you set up your new virtual machine you just point it the file's location and it will boot to it like its a CD.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 03, 2010, 03:54:48 PM
Ok...I am installing SVB...hopefully Deepfreeze doesn't remove it :S

If I save it to my flash drive, will it require registry data or anything on my computer? I really want it to be portable.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: JJ 3000 on March 03, 2010, 10:08:12 PM
You've got me a bit confused here.
Are you talking about trying to install virtual box on you flash drive?
I don't think that you can do that. You can only install portable apps on a flash drive.


>EDIT<
I guess you can do that.
http://www.techbeta.org/portable-apps/portable-virtual-box/
 I've never tried it though. In the version of virtual box that I use you have to specify a specific amount of system memory that your virtual machine will use from the host machine. I don't really understand how this would work if you move your virtual machines around to different host machines with different amounts of system memory.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 04, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
The main issue for me is the fact that Deepfreeze will remove all new files installed on the system partition (The C:\) drive of the local disk, and the other partition is too small to hold anything TBH, as well as removing any new registry keys. That's why I need it to be "portable". It probably won't be used portably, it's just portable apps don't install registry keys and can be installed on flash drives.

So, I will try getting that portable virtual box program when I'm at home.
Title: Re: Looking for a good PORTABLE distro
Post by: Helpmeh on March 05, 2010, 07:16:22 PM
I can't wrap my mind around this portable virtual box. It says (in really bad grammar I may add) that I don't have to change any settings, etc. But if I click OK, it just closes.