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Other => Other => Topic started by: Slade on July 25, 2010, 08:17:25 AM
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I seen many user have all ready done this. Thing is that I thought it wouldnt be all that hard too do. I saved a backup of the boot file an the editted one. However, when I look at it in msconfig its still the orginal file. Basically, I just coppied the line that loads xp an renamed them to the OS that I wanted too load. Not sure if it matters but, I wanted windows 7, windows xp an dos 6.22
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thanks for sharing.
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OK I'll bite. I know this might seem like a weird, maybe even indecent suggestion, Slade, but perhaps you might let us see the text of this boot.ini file?
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I dont really know any more then this. So I'm not sure what to do know.
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
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This might help
http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/1175
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I should of mentioned that there on differnt drives as well. Sorry :( Also, I forgot that I wanted to mention that the Dos drive is attached threw a IDE Card an the Windows 7 is sata. XP is attached to the MB via IDE
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There's plenty of information about multibooting out there on the web; If you apply yourself you shouldn't have any trouble sorting it out. Have fun!
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Thanks, well I was getting my stuff off there. Thing is that I dont have XP activated yet an wanted to change the file before I do that. :-\
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Thanks, well I was getting my stuff off there. Thing is that I dont have XP activated yet an wanted to change the file before I do that. :-\
This will make no difference at all with the bootini edit...
You should register....Period.
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what do you mean register? I want to know that it works before I activate it. So that in case something should happen I can reformat it or something.
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what do you mean register? I want to know that it works before I activate it. So that in case something should happen I can reformat it or something.
If you "reformat" you will have to register again.
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I want to know that it works before I activate it. So that in case something should happen I can reformat it or something.
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I should of mentioned that there on differnt drives as well. Sorry :( Also, I forgot that I wanted to mention that the Dos drive is attached threw a IDE Card an the Windows 7 is sata. XP is attached to the MB via IDE
Not according to your boot.ini file. That says they are all on the same drive and partition. And there's no such thing as "should of". And it's "through" not "threw"
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Do it this way.
First install your DOS on a small partition. About 300 MB is fine.
Next install Windows XP on another partition.
Last install Windows 7 to yet another partition.
Go ahead and activate and register you windows system.
Make backups. With proper backups, you should not have to activate again.
This has been covered time and again all over the web.
Windows XP: How do you install two OS's in the same computer. (http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?threadID=204026)
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There not all on the same drive. I installed them seperately, 20 dos, xp 320, win 7 320. I just forgot in the process of wanting to mention it so that it could been understood whats done.
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Not according to your boot.ini file. That says they are all on the same drive and partition. And there's no such thing as "should of". And it's "through" not "threw"
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Okay, i might be able to help you out. Try this on the Windows XP boot, Start-> "Right Click" My Computer -> Manage -> Disk Management ->
In the middle of that screen will be your hard drives and partitions. Going from Left to Right is your partition numbers, so say DOS is Partition 1, XP is 2, and 7 is 3.
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
That is how it would be laid out. But if you were to say that the os's were loaded on different Hard Drives then you'd have to locate the drive numbers, Hope i have helped
..::Merlyn::..
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that helps alot :) you know how to locate the drive number though or which ever?
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that helps alot :) you know how to locate the drive number though or which ever?
Right. I defy ANYONE to tell me this isn't Squall.
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Right. I defy ANYONE to tell me this isn't Squall.
I thought that had been pretty well established. Squall, the indefatigable incoherent purveyor of nonsense. I'd recognise that prose style anywhere, as have a number of people, I believe.
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that helps alot :) you know how to locate the drive number though or which ever?
Okay, glad i cleared that up for you.
Drive numbers...
Can you send a screenshot of your disk management, this will help me to get partition numbers and drive numbers. Then I will write a boot.ini file that you can copy and paste and that should solve your problem :)
..::Merlyn::..
Off-topic:
Right. I defy ANYONE to tell me this isn't Squall.
What is "Squall"?
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If you wish to use the MS boot loader, Windows 7 has to be the last thing you install. Here is the exception. You may alter the boot.ini of f XP to boot up other windows os on another drive, if it is windows 98, windows 200 or another windows XP install. But not Vista or Windows 7.
And yes, there are other ways to it. You can use a third party boot manager to make things easier. Or use Linux as the boot manager. If you want Linux.
When you do not make it crystal clear what you want to do, it is harder to give you the right answer. My recommendation is if you do not have a full understanding of how Windows does boot management, you should use a third-party software solution.
Here is a good video on this topic:
http://www.butterscotch.com/tutorial/Creating-A-Dual-Boot-PC-With-EASEUS-Partition-Manager
Caveat: Microsoft made a big change in boot management with introduction of Vista.
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I'm fairly certain that Vista does not support the boot.ini file... Any multi booting has to be done through the BCD file in Vista OR Windows 7, if you are dual booting with pre-vista OSs..
Easy BCD (http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1) is a simplified approach to editing the BCD file.
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Off-topic:
What is "Squall"?
Who is squall?
An old member (who's been banned), adept at trolling other members with various tactics.
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Back on topic. Vista will allow Windows XP to believe it has control of the boot process. Vista will say:
boot prior operating system.
vista
If the prior OS had boonlt.ini file choices, it will come up if you select the "prior OS" from the vista boot manager.
This is from the MS KB.
Easy BCD is a simplified approach to editing the BCD file.Yes, that is a good choice and makes things easier.
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can we finish attempting to resolve this?
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can we finish attempting to resolve this?
Your guess is as good as mine.
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so you dont know ether?
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Can you send a screenshot of your disk management, this will help me to get partition numbers and drive numbers. Then I will write a boot.ini file that you can copy and paste and that should solve your problem :)
..::Merlyn::..
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I'll have it during the weekend. Best that I can do at the moment. ;)
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okay, But i won't be able to reply to the thread until monday.
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I may with out high possiblity have it posted tommorow. Thing is that I wouldnt be able to check it then till next weekend then probably.
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Can't wait...
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Here it is. The drive letters may change due to reconnecting the drives at times.
[recovering disk space - old attachment deleted by admin]
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According to that you have 3 Hard-drives installed, (correct me if i am wrong).
So this is how I see it.
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(2)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
See if that works...
..::Merlyn::..
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It seems right too me. However, I dont really know. I just put that in the root of C:/ then?
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replace your whole boot.ini with the one that i wrote for you, see if my judgement is correct, if not: please tell me what the O/S's boot to? Thanks.
..::Merlyn::..
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Like I said it seems right. I just wanted too know if that was the correct directory to put it in. By defualt though it should boot to XP?
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Boot into XP, go to the boot.ini file replace all the text in the boot.ini file and paste in the boot.ini that i configured for you. :)
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I wasnt sure, cause it shows how to edit it on here. Well I have to format the drive an then I will be able to try it out.
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I wasnt sure, cause it shows how to edit it on here. Well I have to format the drive an then I will be able to try it out.
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This should be good
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Well Hopefully, then other users could use it.
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Boot into XP, go to the boot.ini file replace all the text in the boot.ini file and paste in the boot.ini that i configured for you. :)
I went an done that without trouble. I didnt see the boot.ini however, thing is that I wasnt able too get it to go into XP. I get this error though.
Windows can not start because of a computer disk hardware config problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk. Check boot path an disk hardware. Please check the windows documentation about hardware disks config an your hardware ref manuals for additonal info
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Sorry, I have made a mistake. |V|
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
That should help you out now :)
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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
Please can you provide a reference to installing Dos in the the first partition on the third disk {rdisk (2),partition(0)} in a folder named Windows? I don't understand how Dos 6.22 can be in a folder named Windows.
Also, there doesn't seem to be an Operating System which ties in with the Default entry, is this intentional?
Thanks
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This just gets better and better ;D
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[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
Merlyn - you refer to partition(0). I'm more confused, don't partition numbers start at (1) in boot.ini?
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Merlyn - you refer to partition(0). I'm more confused, don't partition numbers start at (1) in boot.ini?
Yes they do.
Read here for the full lowdown
http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/multiboot/boot_ini.htm
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This should be good
This just gets better and better
Ohh Gee S.T. you just spoiled the fun.
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Ohh Gee S.T. you just spoiled the fun.
Oh, don't worry. With this cast of characters it's bound to get even better ;)
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Guess i'll join the party then...
Slade/Squall until you understand the concept that since WinME you cannot simply "swap" HDD's around from one machine to the next like candy and expect them to function properly well then it's just gonna continue to happen....
This has been explained to you numerous times...yet you persist.
No amount of editing boot.ini files will solve this quandry of errors...
Respectfully,
patio.
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Guess i'll join the party then...
Slade/Squall until you understand the concept that since WinME you cannot simply "swap" HDD's around from one machine to the next like candy and expect them to function properly well then it's just gonna continue to happen....
This has been explained to you numerous times...yet you persist.
No amount of editing boot.ini files will solve this quandry of errors...
Respectfully,
patio.
Also, Bears.
Not sure how that fits in but somebody had to say it.
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And of course rhinoceri
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I shoulda said "quandry of Bears".....
Then i woulda covered all bases.
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And of course rhinoceri
Wat?
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And of course rhinoceri
???
the plural for rhinoceros is either unchanged ("wow, look at all those rhinoceros") or with your standard es ending: "Let's go see some rhinoceroses. the "i" plural is only found in words that end with "us".
additionally, the "i" ending for plurals are reserved for Latin words(or more precisely, words derived from latin words) in the second declension, in the nominative singular. Common words that are mis-pluralized include examples such as virus- the proper plural is viruses, not virii, since the word virus comes from the latin vīrus, which means basically "poison". Because it denotes something uncountable, it is therefore a mass noun, like homework, blood, food, luggage, trash, etc whereby there really is no plural, and in cases where one would expect a plural you instead use the standard mass noun (thus the name). Even Octopi is not strictly correct, and results from the misunderstanding that Octopus is a second declension latin noun, which it is not. (therefore the proper term is octopuses).
Bear, is of course, pluralizes using the standard s ending, for example:
bears
I shoulda said "quandry of Bears".....
Then i woulda covered all bases.
If you have a large group of bears, you might use the Congregational term "sloth" which denotes a group of bears. Or maybe it's a bear congress. That would be funny to see. Sloth of bears in a big parliament type building debating and wearing suits and glasses, debating a new bill prohibiting porridge sampling. Why would they come up with congregational terms for animals that hardly ever get together(as far as humans know) is rather beyond me. on an unrelated note, I'd like to point out that it's odd how we can dictate names for all young kangaroos and opossums. I think their mothers should have some say, and who decided they should all be called Joey anyway? He was the most annoying character in friends, and when the *censored* did we start coming up with scientific-type terms based on television sitcoms that ran for about 5 years too long? What's next, will a group of divorced Albino Polar Bears be called a Monica? Will we start referring to large groups of Chochke collecting penguins as a Marge Simpson?
NO! I'm putting my foot down! it ends here!
Now, back to the topic at hand, which If I recall was bears. Or perhaps Rhinoceroses, which I like to think of as Wine and Waxy roses. Wax coming from Cera, of course.
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Well it's certainly better than a Murder of Crows if you think about it...
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rhi·noc·er·os [rī nóssərəss]
(plural rhi·noc·er·os·es or rhi·noc·er·os or rhi·noc·er·i[rī nóssər ])
noun
massive horned mammal: a very large herbivorous animal with very thick skin and one or two horns on its snout. Native to: Africa, Asia.
Family: Rhinocerotidae
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Microsoft Encarta is wrong- or at least, inaccurate to some degree. the i plural is only for latin derived words in the second declension, in the nominative singular. The "i" ending rhinoceri is formed from association with other greek and latin plurals, but does not represent true Latin or greek forms.
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But i spelled Murder of Crows properly.....is that OK ?
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Microsoft Encarta is wrong- or at least, inaccurate to some degree.
It is famous (or notorious) for inaccuracy and US bias.
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Sorry, I have made a mistake. |V|
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
That should help you out now :)
I'll be able to try it later. If your on tommorow I should have how it went later.
Patio Im not simply swaping drives an expecting it too work. Im haveing too setup win xp in a certain manner. Disconnecting the cd drive from the ide card straight too the one that connects to the xp harddrive. Also, this is starting to get out of hand. I will say that I like youd's an all that an some it the things are rather interesting. Im am serious on this matter though.
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Sorry, I have made a mistake. |V|
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Dosl" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINDOWS="Windows 7" /fastdetect
That should help you out now :)
Here is the thing.......... :( I can default into XP okay an everything. When I go to select Dos or Win 7 I get Windows could not start because the following file is missing or currpted. <windows root> \system 32\hall.dll. Please reinstall a copy of the above file. Also, win xp if I go too select it still has the same issue. I can change which drive too boot from in the BIOS an still boot too those OS though. Side question for dos you have dosl does that make a difference cause I changed it so it read DOS ???
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The reason the .hal info is incorrect is because the OS was installed to the drive in another machine.....why don't you get this ? ?
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this one with xp installed. I indivally installed each OS attached to this unit alone