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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Vista and 7 => Topic started by: Robox on July 26, 2010, 03:54:50 PM

Title: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on July 26, 2010, 03:54:50 PM
Hello!

I have one small problem and I hope you'd be able to solve it.First things first, I will tell you my computer specs:
OS:Windows 7
64 Bit
2GB RAM
512 MB Graphics Memory
2.7 GHZ Processor.
Now the problem I have is that the Gradients do not appear as smooth as they should.I mean there's not enough "finishing" between them.I can see lines repeating vertically in gradient-based images.I think there is any fault in color setting.But how can I get it back into smoother gradients.Wallpapers which have gradients do not appear smooth.I dont want those lines etc.In Photoshop when I create gradients, I see lines which just make up the gradient roughly.
How can I bring that old smooth gradient back?
Thanks
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Allan on July 26, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
What happened between the last time it looked correct and the first time it didn't?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: kpac on July 26, 2010, 04:02:23 PM
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In Photoshop when I create gradients, I see lines which just make up the gradient
Photoshop creates bitmap images. Are you zoomed in to 100%?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on July 27, 2010, 06:38:48 AM
What happened between the last time it looked correct and the first time it didn't?
There weren't lines between the changing colors of gradients and now there are :(.
Photoshop creates bitmap images. Are you zoomed in to 100%?
Even when I save them to png or jpeg, and open them using Windows Photo Viewer, those lines appear
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: patio on July 27, 2010, 07:13:53 AM
I would try removing and reseating the Vid Card...how old is it ?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on July 27, 2010, 08:55:51 AM
Colour ("color") depth set to some low level like 16 bit?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: jason2074 on July 27, 2010, 09:58:17 AM
Does it appear also using a different monitor of the same or higher resolution? If ever you can borrow or have an extra monitor.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: kpac on July 27, 2010, 10:33:28 AM
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Even when I save them to png or jpeg, and open them using Windows Photo Viewer, those lines appear
Is it just PS it happens with? What version of Photoshop?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 03, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
@patio.Its very new.And I am 99% Sure that wont be the problem.
@Solmon No its 32 Bit
@Jason No Not Only PS But everything

Is there a way I can Show how I see it? Because If I show you any gradient-based image, you would see it normally.
Like if there is a black/white gradient(vertical and black at the top)..Then Black wont smoothly go down to white.
It seems like There are blocks of colors and you can easily see their borders as they are kept with different colors.(Hard to Tell :( :P)
First, on the top, there will be a black block, then below it a lighter black, then dark gray block, then light grey, then white.And you can see the blocks' borders......
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: BC_Programmer on August 03, 2010, 09:19:24 AM
Take a screenshot using Printscreen and upload it somewhere.

If it looks normal to us, then it would be your monitor at fault.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 03, 2010, 10:22:55 AM
And hey..I searched around Net...and came to know..that what I am experiencing is Gradient Banding.....And after reading its definition..I came to know that it was exactly what I was experiencing..
I even see some yucky green lines....and radial gradients seem really disgusting..
Here's a screenshot of my gradient:
(http://i34.tinypic.com/ibifya.jpg)
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 03, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
absolutely smooth here. My video settings are 32 bits per pixel
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: BC_Programmer on August 03, 2010, 10:30:34 AM
fine here as well, either video card, or monitor issues. I'm leaning towards the latter, since usually a issue with the video card would appear on the screenshot as well.

Unless you are doing something, like using a low quality DVI->VGA adapter.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 03, 2010, 10:42:25 AM
Can it be related to Color Profiles? On my laptop, it appears perfectly smooth as well.But my desktop is brand new so what can I do now?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 03, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
It would be kind of appropriate if we knew what display card, what method of connection to the monitor, and what monitor was being used.

Quote from: BC_Programmer
Take a screenshot using Printscreen and upload it somewhere.

If it looks normal to us, then it would be your monitor at fault.

I don't see how you arrive at that conclusion; a screenshot takes the contents of video RAM and uses it to make an image file; if the video settings are 24 bpp or higher, there wouldn't be transitions that would result in visible steps; if an analog connection (VGA) was being used, the fault could lie in the digital to analog converters in the display card.

(http://www.antrica.com/images/vga_block_diagram.jpg)

Quote from: Robox
On my laptop, it appears perfectly smooth as well.But my desktop is brand new so what can I do now?

Plug the monitor into the video output of your laptop, if it has one. If you see steps, it's the monitor. If you don't, it's the new destop's display card, and you'll know what to say to the vendor when you make your warranty call.



Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 03, 2010, 12:45:29 PM
Sorry for the dumb questions( I have very few knowledge of hardware stuff )...But I don't know how to connect my monitor to laptop..and I don't think I can..(I don't see the VGA port on it).......
And I think my monitor has the problem probably...Any Alternate or other way??
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 03, 2010, 12:47:57 PM
Some laptops don't have a vga outlet. Why don't you tell us what make and model it is? I already asked you this about your desktop, video card and monitor but you have not told us.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 04, 2010, 05:39:58 AM
Ok The Monitor is HANNspree boston W19.The Desktop ( or CPU ) is Dell Inspiron.
Graphics Card is Nvidia GeForce 310 which has a 512 MB Memory.Is this enough?
And let me remind you again, with the same monitor I have used 7 and XP Before.But After I bought a New CPU, and when then I connected the monitor cable to it, this problem started.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 04, 2010, 05:43:24 AM
I asked about the laptop.
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 04, 2010, 05:58:01 AM
Oh Laptop? I dont remember it.But hey, it has no vga outlet and I am sure about it.So what do you think has the problem?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 04, 2010, 06:01:01 AM
The desktop computer video settings or the monitor or the desktop display card. You appear to have eliminated the first two.



Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Robox on August 04, 2010, 06:07:07 AM
So What can I do next?
Title: Re: Rough Gradients
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 04, 2010, 07:07:35 AM
Contact the vendor of your new desktop computer and tell them it does not work properly and that you wish to exercise the warranty.