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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Vista and 7 => Topic started by: tron on September 23, 2010, 01:48:26 PM

Title: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 01:48:26 PM
I've never done this before. But I need to do this if it's possible.

I was wondering if it's possible to burn an iso of windows 7 onto a flash drive and then set the flash drive as the start up device on boot up and install windows from there?

If it is possible, how do I go about doing it? And what software would be good for doing it?


Thanks!

 
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 23, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
It would probably violate the Windows licence terms. Why did you want to do this? (And yes it is possible)

Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
Because I don't have a dvd drive yet. It's in the mail three days out. And I need to get working on this computer.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 23, 2010, 01:53:02 PM
So where did you get the ISO?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 01:53:43 PM
So where did you get the ISO?


Why do you care?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 01:56:53 PM
Why do you care?

Look. I asked how to do you install windows 7 from a flash drive.

I don't want to be given crud over it. I'm wanting to learn how to do it.

Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Allan on September 23, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
First thing you need to learn is how to act on this forum. If you don't want to answer a question, then don't answer it. But don't be rude or nobody will be willing to help you at all.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Computer_Commando on September 23, 2010, 02:01:19 PM
Why do you care?
http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,58736.0.html
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
First thing you need to learn is how to act on this forum. If you don't want to answer a question, then don't answer it. But don't be rude or nobody will be willing to help you at all.

Well I'm getting tired of this forum.

Because a lot of people on here like to quiz you on why your doing stuff. And a lot of them act like they are a bunch of high school punks that pick on people.

I asked a question and I don't like getting like I'm being interagated.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Allan on September 23, 2010, 02:05:10 PM
Okay. Feel free to submit a request for refund of anything you've paid so far and we'll make sure you are immediately reimbursed. Sorry you feel the service wasn't worth the cost.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 23, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Well I'm getting tired of this forum.

It may be getting tired of you. Get this straight: we don't help with piracy, it's the site policy. It's in the rules that you agreed to when you clicked the button to register, and there are very few legal ways if any that you could have a Windows 7 ISO, and plenty of illegal ways. So you got asked. Your reaction told us all we need to know, and guess what, Einstein? You are building up a rep at what sailors call a "rate of knots". Too lazy to Google, but energetic at running your mouth.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: tron on September 23, 2010, 02:12:39 PM
It may be getting tired of you. Get this straight: we don't help with piracy, it's the site policy, and there are very few legal ways if any that you could have a Windows 7 ISO, and plenty of illegal ways. So you got asked. Your reaction told us all we need to know, and guess what, Einstein? You are building up a rep at what sailors call a "rate of knots". Too lazy to Google, but energetic at running your mouth.



I'm not going to fight with you guys.

I only asked a question to know how to do it. What I do is my own business. I never said that my copy was illegal.

 "Too lazy to Google, but energetic at running your mouth."

Ummm... I was asking for how to do it because I thought I could get some help on it. Maybe people here are to lazy about giving people help and answers.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: kpac on September 23, 2010, 02:14:06 PM
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I never said that my copy was illegal.
So is it?

EDIT:: he's gone.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 23, 2010, 02:21:32 PM
EDIT:: he's gone.

Should we hold a memorial?  ;D
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: kpac on September 23, 2010, 02:26:09 PM
I dunno...should we? I'll get a trophy made. :)
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 23, 2010, 02:56:12 PM
It happens a lot that when you inform people that you cannot, because of policy, tell them what they wish for, they accuse you of being lazy or ignorant.

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I never said that my copy was illegal.

Gotta love that.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 23, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
Quote of the Month Nominee....
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 23, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
It started with a query
about a bootable USB
his query seemed quite simple
and really plain as can be
but it soon became apparent
things wouldn't go his way
when it was quickly noted
he didn't have the DVD.
The conversation turned thusly
to a question of the legal.
Salmon asked the question
"where did you get the ISO?"
he quickly got defensive,assertive and rather brash
"I have the freaking ISO, what must I rehash?"
The rules they were then quoted,
but that came short of a slam dunk.
instead he turned and noted that
he was being quizzed by a high school punk
He said that it was we who were lazy and rude
and yet in a converse twist, he had the attitude.

yes. It hardly meets very many rules for poems. Oh well. I never claimed to be a poet.

Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Allan on September 23, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
It started with a query
about a bootable USB
his query seemed quite simple
and really plain as can be
but it soon became apparent
things wouldn't go his way
when it was quickly noted
he didn't have the DVD.
The conversation turned thusly
to a question of the legal.
Salmon asked the question
"where did you get the ISO?"
he quickly got defensive,assertive and rather brash
"I have the freaking ISO, what must I rehash?"
The rules they were then quoted,
but that came short of a slam dunk.
instead he turned and noted that
he was being quizzed by a high school punk
He said that it was we who were lazy and rude
and yet in a converse twist, he had the attitude.

yes. It hardly meets very many rules for poems. Oh well. I never claimed to be a poet.


bored?  ;D
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 23, 2010, 03:46:30 PM
I can't believe you're moving from soliliquies to poetry...

This will definitely be good...
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 23, 2010, 03:49:19 PM
I would have been perfectly happy to tell him how to put an Ubuntu ISO onto a pen drive and make it bootable. Or OpenSolaris. But there you go.

At one point, he complained that he was being "integrated", and just now I saw he edited it to "interagated".



Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 23, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
Likewise...
However i resist helping those that refuse to help themselves...
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: rthompson80819 on September 23, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
Should we hold a memorial?  ;D

If we do, somehow the Jolly Roger flag needs to be a part of it.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 23, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
If we do, somehow the Jolly Roger flag needs to be a part of it.

Agreed....
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: 2x3i5x on September 28, 2010, 02:42:16 PM
So is it?


So we know he killed himself for being caught out right?  :)
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: michaewlewis on September 29, 2010, 09:20:20 AM
What if I asked how to install windows from a flash drive? You think I would get a helpful answer? I've got about ten windows isos ranging from windows xp to server 2008 r2 (even a win 3.11 install set). Plus some isos for Linux, Symantec, and Bosch. All of them are legal, too. I'm pretty sure I would get drilled by a few members about whether or not they're legal and maybe refused help by them after a good explanation..
I'm very against piracy, but I'm not a piracy cop. If someone asks for help, I'll help them. If they say they have pirated software, I won't help them, but I'm not going to drill them to find out. Is that so hard to do?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 29, 2010, 10:54:15 AM
I'm not going to drill them to find out. Is that so hard to do?

You appear to be advocating a kind of "don't ask, don't tell" attitude to this type of question. People who have legally obtained Windows install disk ISO images tend to be developer/IT pro type people who mostly know how to use them. We aren't just talking to the OP, but to every casual visitor who surfs in here. CH is indexed on Google. I guess attitudes differ. You have yours, I have mine.


Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Azzaboi on September 29, 2010, 11:00:11 AM
The only issue is he used the keyword "Microsoft", Dun dun daaa ... everyone sooo wants to pirate that because who would want to pay for that monoploy forced on ya? So even if he has a legal copy thousands of others would google away. Should of said MacOS or linux then he would of been helped, lol!  ;D

MSDN subscription also uses ISOs, like Salmon said most will know how to use them.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 29, 2010, 11:19:57 AM
You can buy ISOs from the Microsoft Store and put them on a pen drive. They tell you how to do it. And supply the tool you need.

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When you choose to download most software from the Microsoft Store, you have the option of using Download Manager or downloading from your browser. However, when you purchase Microsoft Windows 7 from Microsoft Store, you have an additional choice to make: whether to download a collection of compressed files or to download an ISO file. An ISO file combines all the Windows 7 installation files into a single uncompressed file.

If you choose to download an ISO file (so that you can create a bootable file from a DVD or USB flash drive), copy your Windows 7 ISO file onto your media and, run the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool. After you do this, you can install Windows 7 onto your computer directly from the USB flash drive or DVD.

Note: When you download the ISO file, you must copy the file onto a USB flash drive or a DVD to install Windows 7. When you're ready to install Windows 7, insert the USB flash drive into your USB port or insert your DVD into your DVD drive, and then run Setup.exe from the root folder on the drive.


Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 29, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
monoploy forced on ya?

How is it forced on anybody?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 29, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
The only issue is he used the keyword "Microsoft", Dun dun daaa ... everyone sooo wants to pirate that because who would want to pay for that monoploy forced on ya? So even if he has a legal copy thousands of others would google away. Should of said MacOS or linux then he would of been helped, lol!  ;D

MSDN subscription also uses ISOs, like Salmon said most will know how to use them.

Your argument here is that it was an MS product...otherwise he would have been helped ? ?

I see no validity in that at all...and you have alot to learn.

We have rules and guidelines for a reason here...anyone who doesn't agree with them is welcome to hit the google button
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Azzaboi on September 30, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
I was using a bit of humor - I mearly suggested it's stupid to assume it's an illegal copy just because he said it's an ISO of a Microsoft OS. Microsoft lovers are very over protective and assume too much. Even MSDN, Developers and Microsoft stores offer ISOs and instructions on how to install from a flash drive. I didn't put the answer because others might get into a fuss - anyway if you got it from there, then there would already be instructions written by Microsoft itself.

... at least Salmon Trout got it :)
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You can buy ISOs from the Microsoft Store and put them on a pen drive. They tell you how to do it. And supply the tool you need.

BINGO, right on the money!  ;)
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on September 30, 2010, 09:34:20 AM
So why then would someone with a legit .iso need info on how to do it if it's at the site they obtained it from ? ?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Azzaboi on September 30, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
True!  ;D

I was thinking the same thing...
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 30, 2010, 10:43:48 AM
So why then would someone with a legit .iso need info on how to do it if it's at the site they obtained it from ? ?

This was my (implied) point.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: michaewlewis on September 30, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
So why then would someone with a legit .iso need info on how to do it if it's at the site they obtained it from ? ?

There's no such info (as far as I have looked) on the volume licensing website where I have downloaded all of my isos. If I wanted to put an iso on a flash drive, CH would probably be the second or third place I would look for help (first being yahoo).
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 30, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
There's no such info (as far as I have looked) on the volume licensing website where I have downloaded all of my isos.

http://store.microsoft.com/help/iso-tool



Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: killerb255 on September 30, 2010, 01:05:43 PM
Years ago, it would have been 100% safe to assume ISO = piracy.

That's not the case, now.

MSDN, Technet, etc. are all distributed by Internet now with an extra charge for getting CDs and DVDs shipped. 

For example, I won a 1 year technet subscription at a Microsoft TS2 event in the St. Louis area around April 2008.  ALL of the available items through that subscription are through ISO.  That thing's proven so useful that I paid the $260 to renew it the following year.  Typically, I use it for virtualization scenarios and trying out new products (which is the way a Technet subscription should be used, not "OMG, I gotz me lotz of M$ stuff...dude...u want sum free serva?")

Anyway, an example of a perfectly legal way to install Windows 7 from a flash drive: unattended installation from a network source.  The flash drive can be made bootable with Windows PE 3.0 on it and an unattended installation can be launched from it.  Alternatively, the Windows 7 source files can be on the flash drive itself and the drive can be made bootable to PE.

Perhaps questions like this should be re-evaluated before automatically assuming piracy:

"Dude, I downloaded this Windows...can you help me burn it?" -- 99% likely pirated (in the 1% chance that it's Technet/MSDN, this person probably has the resources to find out the answer to this question on his/her own--i.e.: work supervisor, Microsoft KB articles, etc.). 

"I need to slipstream some updates to a new installation source and boot from a new CD, DVD, or flash" -- 50/50 on that one.  There is no indication that the original source is not genuine, nor is it against the Microsoft TOS to slipstream updates (and in fact, there are commands documented on Microsoft site for doing just that!).  Should the person be questioned as to whether or not their source is legit?  Not sure on that one.  "Guilty until proven innocent" almost never goes well in the end...

"Do you have a working serial number for this?"  100% pirated.  If it were legitimate, the person would have gotten a serial number or at least some recourse for obtaining a legitimate key through the developer. 

Overall, the TC's original question, originally, seemed okay.  However, between not having the original DVD (or genuine certificate of authenticity...or Technet/MSDN subscription for eval purposes) and his overall attitude toward being questioned indicates that he probably didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt...
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 30, 2010, 01:21:40 PM
This isn't really the sort of forum where Technet & MSDN people ask questions, I don't think. Nor is it the kind of place where corporate IT people go to to ask deployment questions (unless the corporation is a Turkish pizza factory run by the questioner's uncle)
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: michaewlewis on September 30, 2010, 01:49:21 PM
http://store.microsoft.com/help/iso-tool

That's not the volume licensing site. Try https://www.microsoft.com/licensing/servicecenter/home.aspx


This isn't really the sort of forum where Technet & MSDN people ask questions, I don't think. Nor is it the kind of place where corporate IT people go to to ask deployment questions (unless the corporation is a Turkish pizza factory run by the questioner's uncle)

Most probably steer clear because of receiving that kind of attitude. Maybe we should have a banner on the home page saying, "IT folks not welcome." The only reason I stick around here is because I have such a long history here.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 30, 2010, 01:56:16 PM
That's not the volume licensing site. Try https://www.microsoft.com/licensing/servicecenter/home.aspx

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

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Microsoft has released its USB/DVD download tool open source, of course.

As the name suggests, the Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool creates a bootable USB stick from a Windows 7 install DVD for use with systems that do not contain an optical drive.

"As we previously explained, the testing and localization took longer than we expected, but the project is now hosted on CodePlex.com, Microsoft's Open Source software project hosting repository, and the code can be found here," explained Peter Galli, Open Source Community Manager for Microsoft.

The tool can also now be downloaded from the Microsoft Store

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Most probably steer clear because of receiving that kind of attitude.

This forum just is not at that level.


Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: killerb255 on September 30, 2010, 03:25:50 PM
This isn't really the sort of forum where Technet & MSDN people ask questions, I don't think. Nor is it the kind of place where corporate IT people go to to ask deployment questions (unless the corporation is a Turkish pizza factory run by the questioner's uncle)

Tell that to the "Windows Server" section of this site...
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on September 30, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
Tell that to the "Windows Server" section of this site...

I am aware of the level of questions and answers in that section.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Allan on September 30, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
Support forums such as Computer Hope are not intended to provide support to corporate IT departments. Having said that, if an IT professional chooses to ask a question on our forum there is no reason we shouldn't do our best to help. Just because someone is an IT professional does not mean he or she is a techie. In fact, these days it's quite the contrary.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 30, 2010, 04:35:24 PM
Support forums such as Computer Hope are not intended to provide support to corporate IT departments.

It pretty much says that in the rules. It doesn't <forbid> it, of course.



Tell that to the "Windows Server" section of this site...


Really? Having windows server automatically means it's a business? Who's making assumptions now? I run an SVN server in my house, do I count as a business?


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Having said that, if an IT professional chooses to ask a question on our forum there is no reason we shouldn't do our best to help.

That's exactly what happened here! When asked where they ISO came from, if it WAS legitimate they would have said where they got it- IE: the MS site/technet, etc. but instead they fly off the handle about being interrogated. If that doesn't set off any red flags for people then I don't know what would. If they had actually said where they got it <instead> of flying off the handle- I doubt it would progressed in the manner it did. And making assumptions that <they> got the attitude (What attitude? How is "Where did you get the ISO" Attitude? It's a bloody question! And a legit one at that.


I don't buy the whole "I'm able to get an ISO off the VLK site but my first stop when trying to put it on a flash drive is a forum I've never posted at before" That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Most IT folks (techie or not) would probably google first something like Windows 7 Volume licensing +USB installation

and would you look at that! the first link is what they need. They might not include the "Volume licensing" bit, of course, so they would end up with the first link as this MS link http://store.microsoft.com/help/iso-tool that pretty well addresses the same thing.

People who know what they are doing generally are able to do some searching on their own, they would post on a forum after not having any luck, or in an attempt to clarify what they've already discovered.

It's really quite the same as a lot of people who post in the programming forum with semi-advanced questions; they seldom get a response, and if they do it's usually nonsense or not completely what they were after- thing is, this isn't really a programming forum, some of the members already know how to program and can offer help, but that's purely coincidence.

Because of this, if I ever get to the point where my attempts to implement ISerializable in my "BASeBlocks" game for level saving/loading are fruitless, I'd be much more likely to post a question on one of the other, specifically programming forums I am a member of. This is not because the question is particularly "advanced" but because it simply doesn't meet what I think would get a useful response here (if any at all). This isn't a negative reflection on the site itself insomuch as it reflects on what the site is for- it's for "free computer help" in the tune of "I can't get my webcam working", not something like this:

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I've got 2 projects, in the same Eclipse (3.2 if it matters) workspace (set up by someone else, so I'm stuck with it). One is under Clearcase and the other under Subversion. The Clearcase plugin was installed first, then the Subversion plugin.

Now I am unable to access any of the Clearcase actions via Eclipse's team menu (it keeps trying to do it via Subversion, even for the Clearcase project.

Can anyone offer any advice on how to make these two work for the resepective projects? Or can you only use one source control plugin at a time with Eclipse?

Thanks.

While I don't doubt that there are at least a few people who use Eclipse here, I highly doubt more then about 5 percent even know what "clearcase" is, and chances are any prospective helper would need to google it. It's highly unlikely they would even have access to a working installation. The site where this question was posted, on the other hand, is filled with people who actually have development jobs and work in a "team" setting and deal with source control, so the chance that somebody is familiar with Clearcase and eclipse is about a million times higher then it is here.

The above doesn't mean we shouldn't have a programming forum, just like the site not being particularly aimed at IT professionals doesn't mean there shouldn't be any "server" type forums. But like I said- if I had a serious programming problem I probably wouldn't post it here, simply because the number of people who would be able to respond to it would be much lower then on one of the other forums I am a member of.

One can extend this to "IT professionals" wether they are techie or not they almost always are a member of some other site; such as, for example, Serverfault (which for those types of questions often comes up in a google). So the question then becomes "why post the question here?" It's not meant as a knock of this forum insomuch as it is merely stating that there is a specific set of questions where the help acquired will be extremely optimal; unbootable windows installations, virus problems, driver issues, and pretty much any end-user issue. But when you start asking about corporate IT deployments and Network installations and Big O() notation problems in Scheme you're going to start hearing crickets pretty quickly.


Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Allan on September 30, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
My post above was not necessarily in regards to this thread - just more of a general statement / opinion. I don't know if the OP in this thread was or was not legit, but I doubt he or she was a corporate IT professional. Regardless, seems to me this thread has pretty much run its course, no?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: johngetter on October 02, 2010, 07:21:42 AM
My post above was not necessarily in regards to this thread - just more of a general statement / opinion. I don't know if the OP in this thread was or was not legit, but I doubt he or she was a corporate IT professional. Regardless, seems to me this thread has pretty much run its course, no?

Yeah It has. My Topic had many posts and it was closed...Dont you have the right to lock it?
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on October 02, 2010, 07:24:47 AM
I really don't like johngetter's signature.
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: johngetter on October 02, 2010, 11:59:36 AM
I really don't like johngetter's signature.

Its my Honor...Not yours...I dont make rules...there for me to follow
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Salmon Trout on October 02, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Its my Honor...Not yours...I dont make rules...there for me to follow

It's annoying and distracting and juvenile, and you have not been here long enough to prate about "rules".
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: Azzaboi on October 02, 2010, 12:05:53 PM
What a hate crime! lol
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: johngetter on October 02, 2010, 03:35:20 PM
What a hate crime! lol

Yeah dude. hes Prob Jealous ::)
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: johngetter on October 02, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
What a hate crime! lol

It is annoying. So Ill Get Rid of it...put something new
Title: Re: Can you install windows 7 from a flash drive?
Post by: patio on October 02, 2010, 05:20:24 PM
I've seen enough...