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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Vista and 7 => Topic started by: Lowrider on August 13, 2011, 05:45:38 AM
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Running 32 bit Vista on Toshiba Intel Dual Core. I can do SOME updates, not all. Same on AVG, Some updates but not all. I can't access RESTORE and I cant find MSI 4.0 for 32 bit so i can download.. Sorry is there any other info that i need to give? Thx in advance! :)
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Where did you get your version of windows from?
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It came on the laptop when i bought it from hh greg. thx
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Enabling automatic updates will notify a user for any recommended fix, patches for your system. Same with your Antivirus. Post the complete error or messages for us to understand what are some updates but not all. You could also manually download MSI from the Microsoft download sites.
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Ok, i will as soon as it happens again. Which should be shortly. Thx much!
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Prepare to install. Creating Restore Point. Succeed 2 Updates. Failed 1 Updates. Error 641. Windows update encountered an unknown error. (YESTERDAY ALL 3 FAILED.)
AVG say's: Update Failed: General error. It also updates intermittently. Thx
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Post the complete error or messages for us to understand what are some updates but not all. You could also manually download MSI from the Microsoft download sites.
When updates failed such as for MSI 4.0 a complete detail(name of the file) is posted along with the error code. Had this one recently on windows update prompting/notified to install net framework 4(3 files) or KB 2468871 which also failed. Type the KB code on Google search and a Microsoft link for the particular file will be given. Typing KB 2468871 will give you http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2468871 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2468871)
Then just download the installer and manually install it. If there are still problems along the manual install, look for the exact detail error. If you have 1 or 5 files that failed to update, look for the names and KB code. List them and try looking for a manual installation instead. Regarding your AVG antivirus, its either you need to reinstall it and see if next scheduled update will be corrected.
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Unspecified error installing netframe. I wasnt sure which edition, as i'm running vista 32 bit. i tried the NDP40-KB2468871-v2-x86.exe and dotnetFX40 Full x86 x64 files, but got the unspec error.BUT you are right, i did see a net frame error b4 too! On the windows update, i didn't get the KB errors, i got code 641 and code 80070050. Thx
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I wasnt sure which edition, as i'm running vista 32 bit.
Skip all x64 bit software package download choices and choose the last one x86(e.g. NDP40-KB2533523-x86.exe - http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27014 (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27014))
Check your installed updates and post all files under Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile.
1. Click Start
2. On Search Program and Files search box, type - View Installed Updates - Enter
3. Post all KB code and corresponding file details installed.
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Here are the 3 that failed. I had to open control panel, show updates. Thx
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 x86 (KB2533523)
Installation date: 8/15/2011 6:18 AM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 641
Update type: Recommended
This update addresses stability, reliability, and performance issues in Microsoft .NET Framework 4. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
More information:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=219466
Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com
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Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 x86 (KB2468871)
Installation date: 8/15/2011 6:18 AM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 641
Update type: Recommended
Install this update to resolve issues in Microsoft .NET Framework 4. For a complete listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
More information:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=210664
Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com
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Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 x86 (KB2539636)
Installation date: 8/15/2011 6:18 AM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 641
Update type: Important
A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise your Windows-based system that is running the Microsoft .NET Framework and gain access to information. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
More information:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=218326
Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com
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Software Update KB2533523 has not been installed because:
The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed.
OS Version = 6.0.6002, Platform 2, Service Pack 2
OS Description = Vista - x86 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 2
CommandLine = c:\ac36fd7bf44e2513326f0d0893\Setup.exe
TimeZone = Eastern Daylight Time
Initial LCID = 1033
Using Simultaneous Download and Install mechanism
Operation: Installing
Package Name = KB2533523
Package Version = 10.0.30319
User Experience Data Collection Policy: Disabled
Number of applicable items: 1
Summary Information:
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile
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From Reply#9 - Those errors or failed to install updates are the very same files/kb codes I was having problem with. However, if you choose the link from More information, it will directly give you the manual download by choosing Download Reliability Update 1 for the Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Now.
Then choose this -> NDP40-KB2533523-x86.exe
After download is complete, install the package and if you are required to reboot, let it do so. Have you tried the Manual installation instead going for the Windows Update? Do this again for the remaining .NET Framework installers. This is how I actually was able to install all 3 files.
Your Reply#10 - Where is that error from? From the Windows update?
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That error is from trying to install NDP40-KB2533523-x86.exe. It downloaded fine, but couldn't install. Widows Installer Service could not be accessed. Am I missing something? Sorry n THANKS
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. Have you tried the Manual installation instead going for the Windows Update? Do this again for the remaining .NET Framework installers. This is how I actually was able to install all 3 files.
Your Reply#10 - Where is that error from? From the Windows update?
How do i do a manual install? Thx
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Check your installed updates and post all files under Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile.
1. Click Start
2. On Search Program and Files search box, type - View Installed Updates - Enter
3. Post all KB code and corresponding file details installed.
We need to know first what updates or files were successfully installed. Then will try the manual download/install.
On my Win 7 system, installed updates are the following:
1.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2539636) Installed 08/16/2011
2.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2518870) Installed 08/16/2011
3.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2478663) Installed 08/16/2011
4.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2446708) Installed 08/16/2011
5.) Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2533253) Installed 08/16/2011
6.) Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2466871) Installed 08/16/2011
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Oh My, No Updates Show. I cant believe this.
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What do you mean no updates are shown? Not one under Installed updates?
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I'm sorry, i thought i replied. i can't find ANY netframe updates listed. THX I'm probably going to buy a full windows 7. That will fix it,,,,right?
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I'm sorry, i thought i replied. i can't find ANY netframe updates listed. THX I'm probably going to buy a full windows 7. That will fix it,,,,right?
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Check your Windows Installer under Component services. Hit Start->type services.msc, Enter-> look for Windows Installer and check if its disabled. If its disabled, double-click W.I. and change startup type to Manual. Click Apply. Scroll down and check Windows update which should be in Automatic. Do the same procedure as suggested.
i can't find ANY netframe updates listed
Try .Net Framework 3.0 Redistributable Package -> HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=31) then
.Net Framework SP 1 -> Service Pack 1 (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=3005)
If these components were successfully installed, then we'll try 3.5 RP and SP.
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I don't know what i've done but i get this error: You must use "Turn Windows feature on or off" in the Control Panel to install or configure .Net Framework 3.0.
OK, when i got to turn features on or off, there is NOTHING listed to be turned on or off.
i'm not trying to blame AVG, but this started because of their faulty virus definitions update. BUT, like i said, i'm not blaming them because it's free and i have had good luck for years using AVG. Thx ,,,Again! :)
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Navigate to your Programs Files (C:) and look for Reference Assemblies. Is it present? If yes, look for Framework version folders and post them. Under Windows Features, look for Windows Process Activation Service. There is a plus sign for you to expand to turn on/off during the installation. However, we must verify first under the Program folders if there are current version installed under Reference Assemblies.
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In Prog Folders there is Frame Work versions 3.0 and 3.5. There are a lot of dll files and Subset List and Redistribute List. I Couldn't see anything under features on or off yesterday. Is that where you want me to look? Thx
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In Prog Folders there is Frame Work versions 3.0 and 3.5.
Ok, we have both components or same as the one I have here on Win 7. What Vista service pack are you using?
Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2539636) Installed 08/16/2011
In the above quote on my previous reply searching for the KB code is here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2539636 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2539636)
The supported systems are Windows Vista SP2, Win 7, Win 7 SP1.
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I'm using SP2. And I'm not sure I got the second part. Which download link do I click, once I get to your link above? (on MS page)? Thx
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1.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2539636) Installed 08/16/2011
2.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2518870) Installed 08/16/2011
3.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2478663) Installed 08/16/2011
4.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2446708) Installed 08/16/2011
5.) Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2533253) Installed 08/16/2011
6.) Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2466871) Installed 08/16/2011
You posted that viewing installed updates on your system have none... under .NET Framework 4. Since you have Vista SP2, let's start on the security updates by manually downloading then install.
1.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2539636) Installed 08/16/2011
Let's try this first. Download from direct link here - http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27017 (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27017)
This is the file you need to download - NDP40-KB2539636-x86.exe (3MB) - Install then post the result.
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I manully downloaded the file, it seemed like it would install. I had to turn on Windows Installer, in services.msc. I agred to terms, then I got an error: The Win Install Service could not be accessed. This can happen if Win Install Serv. is not correctly installed. KB 2539636. Thx I appreciate you trying to help fix this. :)
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2.) Security update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2518870) Installed 08/16/2011
Let's try the 2nd one. http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=26409 (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=26409)
Download x86.exe installer 18.0 MB after saving then install. Same result? If it went on another error installation, try Selective Start up.
1. Click Start, type msconfig in the start search box and then press Enter.
2. If you are prompted for an Administrator password or for confirmation, type the password or click Continue.
3. Under Startup Selection, choose Selective Startup and clear the Load Startup Items check box.
4. Click the Services tab, click to select Hide All Microsoft Services check box, and then click Disable All.
5. Click Ok.
6. When you are prompted, click Restart.
7. Try the Windows Update again.
If same result, install them manually starting with the KB 2539636 security update you previously downloaded but cannot install.
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I forgot to post back. I tried that EXACTLY like you said. I still get the installer error: The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. This can happen if Windows Installer Service is not correctly installed. Can i re- DL MSI Installer? Thx in Advance! :)
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Could you disable AVG and other protection softwares on your PC and try again the downloaded NET Framework files for manual installation. You could do this offline or without internet connection while doing the install, just to be sure when you turn off all protection softwares. Re enable them again later. There is a NET Framework Cleanup Tool available online and is published here http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx)
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So are you saying after i re-do the disabling, I should run the tool from your last link? Thx Jason
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Turn off protection softwares then try reinstalling the previously downloaded files for manual installation which were making errors. Do this offline or without internet connection. The link is about steps as a last resort for any unsuccessful installation of NET Framework. Read the link and it will give you what you might need to resolve the errors. These are the last things I could suggest as I'm out of ideas.
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OK, I did all of your listed recommendations. I still get Windows Installer error. I found, and used a .netframe verification tool. I ran it on 2.0 3.0 3.4 n 4.0, it verified everything is fine in .netframe. Can't it just be that I'm missing my Windows Installer Service App? Thx
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I found Windows Installer 4.6. When I tried to instal I get: Windows Update Stand Alone Installer, Installer Encountered An Error 0X80040154 Class Not Registered. Thx
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CAN ANYONE.. tell me if my recovery and applications disk can fix this problem? thx