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Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows 3.x/9x/ME => Topic started by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 08:31:25 PM

Title: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 08:31:25 PM
Hi!

I tried to find driver for Genius optical 2 button mouse with wheel to support wheel or wheel as button for Windows 3.11, never succesfull.

So, I connected old 3-button mouse by serial port.

Mouse works correctly, but middle button is inactive...

I tried driver CuteMouse, not succesfull, also drivers for Genius works not.

CAN ANYBODY HELP ME HOW AND WHERE TO FIND UNVIRSAL DRIVER (for MS-DOS 6.22 & Win3.11) FOR THIS 3-BUTTON MOUSE?

Also, mouse is very old, unknown model, labels are destroyed...

Many many thanks for everything!

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: BC_Programmer on August 18, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
How will you know when the middle mouse button is working? Windows 3.1x doesn't have support for the middle mouse button.

Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 08:45:02 PM
Hi!

Yes, maybe I wrote it wrong...

I have test program for mice and there shows staus of LEFT, MIDDLE, RIGHT button and shows coordinates...

Also - I'm using Win3.11 for Commodore 128 HDD - solution 64HDD Professional and there is support of 3-button mouse, only needs driver for Win/DOS...

So, main usage is not Win3.11, main usage is 64HDD Pro running in Win3.11 or DOS...

So, I'm sorry... now is the Q better written...

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: patio on August 18, 2011, 08:49:37 PM
You will not have use of the middle button in that enviornment...
Think that's what BC was sayin.
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: BC_Programmer on August 18, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
Turns out I was wrong, The Windows 3.1 SDK does in fact define WM_MBUTTONDOWN and WM_MBUTTONUP. No built-in applications use it, and very few other applications do either.

Obviously, a proper driver would be needed. (that's why you are here).

All we know is that it's a serial mouse with three buttons. That isn't a lot to go on.
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 09:02:15 PM
I'm really sorry, but this mouse I found after lot of years and any company or model labels are damaged so, that it is not possible to know more...

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: Computer_Commando on August 18, 2011, 09:02:51 PM
...I'm using Win3.11 for Commodore 128 HDD...
Commodore 128 does DOS?
Are you running this in emulation on some other platform?
There is a New Commodore 64:  http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Yes, I know that new Commodore 64 is for sale, but it's really PC platform computer with emulation only...

I'm real Commodore 128DCR / Commodore 128 flat user.

64HDD Pro allows to access FAT12/FAT16/FAT32...

So, There's not problem of data storage...

Why I'm writting about mouse?

Commodore 8-bit computers never have 3-button mouse except CMD SmartMOUSE (not possible to buy ATM).
64HDD Pro allows also to use PC-mouse for Commodores... so, I have original CBM 1351 mouse (2bttn), also Micromys, but this can allow many many things...

3-buttons or 2 buttons with wheel...

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: Computer_Commando on August 18, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
I gotcha.  64HDD Pro is something I never heard of before.  Don't know much about it.  I'll read up.
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: patio on August 18, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Turns out I was wrong, The Windows 3.1 SDK does in fact define WM_MBUTTONDOWN and WM_MBUTTONUP. No built-in applications use it, and very few other applications do either.

Obviously, a proper driver would be needed. (that's why you are here).

All we know is that it's a serial mouse with three buttons. That isn't a lot to go on.

I did not know that...Thanx for the info...

Miro have you tried any of the old legacy Windows drivers ? ?
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 18, 2011, 09:54:26 PM
So, I have only Win3.11 on CD with MS Word & Excel + MS-DOS 6.22...

Not more than standard package...

I was searching on internet, but maybe mistaken, also FTP for Win3x and there were only drivers for Video & Audio...

Please give to me any tip or better, any link...

Many thanks.

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: Computer_Commando on August 19, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
So, I have only Win3.11 on CD with MS Word & Excel + MS-DOS 6.22...
Win3.11 is Windows for Workgroups v3.11, so networking is built-in.
Win3.1 is not the same, has to be done manually through DOS drivers.  Very difficult to accomplish.
Most corporate environments started with WFW-3.11, and then moved to WinNT3.51.  Many used both simultaneously.
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 19, 2011, 01:13:05 PM
For correction:

MS DOS 6.22 EN

MS Windows 3.11 For Workgroups CZ

MS Word & MS Excel are from 3x era...

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: Salmon Trout on August 19, 2011, 02:04:54 PM
So, I have only Win3.11 on CD with MS Word & Excel + MS-DOS 6.22...

Really? I didn't know Microsoft marketed such a product - where did you purchase this?

Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on August 19, 2011, 03:01:55 PM
Of course it was not originally compiled by Microsoft.

I had diskettes, and later when I wanted to make any DOS archive I burned CD with this compilation...

Word & Excel are only from friend, also I don't know if there was a pack like Office in that years...

Miro
Title: Re: Win3.11 3-button serial mouse driver - which/where?
Post by: Computer_Commando on August 20, 2011, 12:40:23 PM
... I don't know if there was a pack like Office in that years...
Yes there was, MS Office 4.3, 24 3.5" floppy disks.  Copied them all to a backup drive.  Each folder named "Disk1", "Disk2", etc, so it knows the volume label for successive disks.  I installed it once to a computer with no optical or floppy drive.  Most files are dated 1994.  Most of the 24 disks are cabinet files (*.cab).